User talk:Orangemike/Archive 26
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Peter Tippett Page Revert
Thank you for your reply to my post related to COI. What are our rights to request that the Peter Tippett page be pulled down? I spent close to 5 hours organizing Tippett's information, tracking down as many links to his older/archived information online that I could, and beginning to reshape his page to at least contain updated, accurate information. While I can understand the need to modify some of the more "positive" information (however true it may be...he is widely acknowledged as a thought leader in cybersecurity...serving as an advisor to the POTUS is the very definition of "leading thought," IMO), why did the entire set of edits have to disappear with the wave of a Wiki editor's wand? Why not point to the specific phrases or statements that are concering and ask that I edit them out? This is what makes Wikipedia a nightmare, a quicksand of regulations I quite frankly don't have time to get mired in. What are our options? Because leaving a page up that, in its currently weak and incomplete state, actually detracts from Dr. Tippett's reputation and public currency is not an option, and I believe he would want to pursue whatever options are available for having it pulled down or edited.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lea M Sims (talk • contribs) — Lea M Sims (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- You are welcome to suggest improvements to the article on the talk page of the article (i.e., Talk:Peter Tippett). Neither you nor Tippett "owns" the article, and you certainly don't have a right to ask that the article be "pulled down" just because you don't like the way he is described. I'm sorry if you feel like we are not being helpful in the way you would like; but while we really do welcome efforts to genuinely improve our articles; we summarily reject efforts to pretty things up at the behest of the subject of an article, or anybody else for that matter. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:57, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello - do we need to keep the autobio tag given that you've cleaned up since the autobio edit (and I did the same in Dec, and someone else back in 2011)? Babakathy (talk) 08:14, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Jimmy McMillan
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WikiALPHABETSOUP
WP:OMG! :-) If you think it's a good idea, and have a moment, create WP:ALPHABETSOUP as a redirect there for me. I'd definitely use it, since not everybody knows what OMG stands for. Update, there *already* is an alphabetsoup shortcut, which leads to the official cabal-approved "List of OMG there are soooo many of them Wikpedia Acronyms". So nevermind my request, that is even *more* fitting as a landing-site. But I figured you might want to know that WP:ALPHABETSOUP isn't just a made-up shortcut. It's not just a good idea, it's the law, as the saying goes. <grin> HTH. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 00:17, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Standards Boost Business page
PLEASE give me back the Standards Boost Business page. I know it was denied and I was going to edit it to better fit Wikipedia guidelines. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Standards_Boost_Business&action=edit&redlink=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ENeiman (talk • contribs) 14:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- The deleted advertisement was completely useless. It was not an article but an ad, a piece of totally shameless advocacy with no redeemable value, written by somebody at ANSI and "sourced" to ANSI and related entities. It was also filled with jargon like "C-suite executives" and the like. You would be better off starting a totally new article, drawing exclusively on reliable, outside third-party sources (if any) who have covered the subject. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:03, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- ENeiman, often editors will tell marketing reps at smaller organizations to re-write their article neutrally, using third-party sources and in most cases this is bad advice. Unless the organization is covered in substantial depth by independent sources like The New York Times and the like, Wikipedia just doesn't want to have an article on the topic. OrangeMike's advice to re-write the article using third-party sources has the effect of stringing you along as you try to create an article up to Wikipedia's standards that never will be, because the sources he is asking for just don't exist. I strongly advise in the most polite and sympathetic way possible that you just give up - it is not a good use of your time or ours. CorporateM (Talk) 16:24, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hello
CAn you please take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kikabak? It seems to be the same guy with the one you blocked yesterday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/OhGodNotThisShitAgain 86.127.26.109 (talk) 08:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- A number of editors have reverted that particular editor's particular edit to that particular article. It was only the scatological username that was a problem with OGNTSA, not his/her edits. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Unblock request of Elaineturner
Hello Orangemike. Elaineturner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), whom you have blocked, is requesting to be unblocked. The request for unblock is on hold while waiting for a comment from you. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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Can you have the page pending changes indefinitely? I see that it is also semi-protected, confusing the readers. --George Ho (talk) 20:09, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
What's up with the second reversion of the Cheesehead article?
With you being an administrator, i'm extremely surprised you made a reversion of the Cheesehead article, the second by two editors in the last couple days. I do NOT want to get into an edit war, and I wanted to know 1) Why you reverted it a second time without discussing it on the talk page, or 2) Why you did not message me on my talk page to discuss the reversion, and/or 3) Why you did not include a reason for your reversion in the edit description. All of these omissions I would expect from a neophyte editor, but NOT from an administrator. I see that in 2009 you were performing similar reversions, and consensus on the talk page was to include the reference to the usage.
My entry that you reverted is a well defined, well sourced, historical reference to the word Cheesehead in print, from nearly 20 years prior to the usage being usurped by current football fans (one of whom I am - I live in Wisconsin and am a GB fan). You cannot ignore the history of the word, it's usage in world war II, nor it's historical reference in one of the preeminent books of the latter 20th century. I would like an explanation from you on your reversion, and I am still considering restoring my edit in the absence of an explanation, but I want to make sure we do this in a consensus matter and not skirt the edges of WP:3RR. Thank you! Timmccloud (talk) 21:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sadly, my laptop is acting up right now. What I meant to post at the time, is that a work of fiction is not a reliable source. We need more solid references for something like this. (By the way: nice to run into another Wisconsin Wikipedian; whereabouts do you live? I'm in Milwaukee.) --Orange Mike | Talk 05:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Madison! (Technically Marshall, WI) and the feeling is mutual! However, I sincerely disagree with your personal definition of a reliable source for the first apperance of a word, fiction or non-fiction. New words enter the English language all the time via novels, and the wider the circulation of the novel, the more likely the word would enter common usage. Currently Pappilon is ranked #85 (that's within the top 100) of crime and novel books on Amazon. Between 1968 when Henri Charrière wrote Papillon and the time of his death in 1973, Pappilon had sold about 5,000,000 copies in 16 languages - reference [1] on the encylopedia britannica no less. There are currently 387 versions of the book in existance as per worldcat.org. Papillon was one of the most popular novels in the late 70's, and it's use of cheesehead in a disparaging way is a true predecessor of the usage in a sports rivalry. And if you make this argument of unreliable sources, I have to call into question the non-sourced phrase at the beginning of the article "Cheesehead is a nickname, sometimes used disparagingly, referring to a person from Wisconsin" when the only source is a redlined link. I would close my argument that your reference to WP:RS notes that this a guideline, and it meets all of them. 1) It meets all three parts of the definition of a source, the work, the author and the publisher. 2) it meets the guideline of a reliable source for "books published by respected publishing houses" - There are 387 reliable sources for you to check out in an earlier link. 3) The sources are not 'unreliable" critera as they are not: Opinion as a questionable source, they are not self-published [[WP:SPS], they are not circular sources WP:COPYWITHIN WP:ABOUTSELF. Sadly Mike, I feel that I am within my rights to restore the reference, and call into question your reasoning, and finally note that I'm copying this conversation to the article talk page AND reporting the multiple reversions to the noticeboard. Timmccloud (talk) 20:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- This is not a Wiktionary entry, it is an article about the object known as a cheesehead. If you want to write a separate article called Cheesehead (epithet), that would be fine, and a work of fiction not even written in English could be used as a source. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:08, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- I realize it's not a Wiktionary entry (the format of my entry would be different ;), however as an article about "Cheesehead" it states NOTHING about the "object" until the body of the article. The article starts with the opening words "Cheesehead is a nickname...", and nicknames have origins other than their final usage in popular culture. The article does NOT Start with "Cheesehead is a hatlike object...", therefore stating that it's two separate articles is silly. Besides, you and I both know that if a second article on an almost identical subject would be fast tracked to be merged within the original article, so the suggestion of "Cheesehead (epithet)" is redundant. This article IS about Cheesehead (epithet), and it evolves into a reference to the hat. You are really talking about a new article called "Cheesehead (hat)", which this article does not state. Timmccloud (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Actually mike, you had a tremendous idea. The article deserves to have the nickname and the hat clearly seperated into different sections. Done! Timmccloud (talk) 21:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- I realize it's not a Wiktionary entry (the format of my entry would be different ;), however as an article about "Cheesehead" it states NOTHING about the "object" until the body of the article. The article starts with the opening words "Cheesehead is a nickname...", and nicknames have origins other than their final usage in popular culture. The article does NOT Start with "Cheesehead is a hatlike object...", therefore stating that it's two separate articles is silly. Besides, you and I both know that if a second article on an almost identical subject would be fast tracked to be merged within the original article, so the suggestion of "Cheesehead (epithet)" is redundant. This article IS about Cheesehead (epithet), and it evolves into a reference to the hat. You are really talking about a new article called "Cheesehead (hat)", which this article does not state. Timmccloud (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- This is not a Wiktionary entry, it is an article about the object known as a cheesehead. If you want to write a separate article called Cheesehead (epithet), that would be fine, and a work of fiction not even written in English could be used as a source. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:08, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Madison! (Technically Marshall, WI) and the feeling is mutual! However, I sincerely disagree with your personal definition of a reliable source for the first apperance of a word, fiction or non-fiction. New words enter the English language all the time via novels, and the wider the circulation of the novel, the more likely the word would enter common usage. Currently Pappilon is ranked #85 (that's within the top 100) of crime and novel books on Amazon. Between 1968 when Henri Charrière wrote Papillon and the time of his death in 1973, Pappilon had sold about 5,000,000 copies in 16 languages - reference [1] on the encylopedia britannica no less. There are currently 387 versions of the book in existance as per worldcat.org. Papillon was one of the most popular novels in the late 70's, and it's use of cheesehead in a disparaging way is a true predecessor of the usage in a sports rivalry. And if you make this argument of unreliable sources, I have to call into question the non-sourced phrase at the beginning of the article "Cheesehead is a nickname, sometimes used disparagingly, referring to a person from Wisconsin" when the only source is a redlined link. I would close my argument that your reference to WP:RS notes that this a guideline, and it meets all of them. 1) It meets all three parts of the definition of a source, the work, the author and the publisher. 2) it meets the guideline of a reliable source for "books published by respected publishing houses" - There are 387 reliable sources for you to check out in an earlier link. 3) The sources are not 'unreliable" critera as they are not: Opinion as a questionable source, they are not self-published [[WP:SPS], they are not circular sources WP:COPYWITHIN WP:ABOUTSELF. Sadly Mike, I feel that I am within my rights to restore the reference, and call into question your reasoning, and finally note that I'm copying this conversation to the article talk page AND reporting the multiple reversions to the noticeboard. Timmccloud (talk) 20:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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Question
Hi Orangemike just a quick question re: this decision, isn't a stage name promotional? It isn't the name of the individual. Cheers Flat Out let's discuss it 07:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- It's apparently his name of ordinary use; this isn't like User:DJSnazzypantzOfficial or something. --Orange Mike | Talk 07:40, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- I understand your reasoning but that's not the case. I appreciate your response and taking the time to get back to me.Flat Out let's discuss it 07:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
talkpage reversion
What's up? Scalhotrod wants to add names of real people to the List of porn stars talk page, but the names redlinked and have no RS for them. I left a message on Scalhotrod's talk page, which got copied onto my talk page. I replied to the message. Am I wrong about how BLP is to be applied? I can't understand why you reverted my reply! – S. Rich (talk) 17:41, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- That was a typo on my part; my apologies. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Okay. How about contacting Scalhotrod and explaining BLP a more. Scalhotrod is now turning to MilesMoney for advice. – S. Rich (talk) 17:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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Stephen Steele Barlow
Hi-I checked my copy of the Wisconsin Blue Book 2007-2008 that has a listing of Wisconsin Legislators from 1848 to 2007. Stephen S. Barlow and Stephen Steele Barlow are the same man. The Wisconsin Blue Book listed him a Free Soiler when he served in the Wisconsin Assembly in 1852 but when he served in the Wisconsin Senate and Attorney General he was listed as a Republican. I added a citation from the Wisconsin Historical Society to the Wisconsin Historical Society. I hope this helps-ThanksRFD (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- According to the 1999 compendium compiled by the LRB, the two S.S. Barlows were different guys (different parties and counties, years apart); but the bio of Barlow in the 1870 Blue Book, for example, clearly states that S. Steele Barlow was the same guy who served from Walworth County in 1852. Good catch! --Orange Mike | Talk 18:39, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- The Legislative Research Bureau probably revised the 1999 listing and put it in the 2007 Blue Book-thanks-RFD (talk) 18:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
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Alert, alert!
Check out User:Newjetinternational, Mike! - 2001:558:1400:10:D4BF:9258:EE2F:4F9A (talk) 18:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Bumfodder
Mike, back in 2010 you nicely observed over at Employee engagement that the content of the article mostly struck you as "bumfodder" ...Does anybody take all this seriously except management consultants?. I liked your tack, there, when I found it, and I'm finally getting around to putting my money where my mouth is ... in sandbox state right now. You may be gladdened to find reflected in this draft article that, no, not many outside the management bubble do take it seriously. I'm holding it out there for a while to draw out the bumfoddering hordes. Adhib (talk) 17:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Order of Owls
I finally got the chance to look back at this article. I have tried to give it a more neutral and balanced tone. I moved the quote about religious beliefs from the opening to a more appropriate place. Perhaps the hostile tone of the article originates from the fact that all of my sources - Christian Cynosure. Preuss, Whalen - are all Christian anti-secret society sources. They seem to be the only sources used by Schmidt and Axelrod, the only secular writers I have found who have written about it. Also, lets face it, the Order has been implicated in criminal activity lately. What can we do to make it more neutral?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 18:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Legal threats at Toll Brothers
Hi Mike. Another IP (Special:Contributions/109.202.157.221|109.202.157.221]]) has just cropped up, pasting the same boilerplate legal threat. I notice that you took the unusual step of applying an indef block to the previous incarnation, citing Arb enforcement. Since I'm not aware of the specific ArbCom case referred to, I wanted to check with you before applying a similar block to this new IP. Yunshui 雲水 14:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- That should have been a legalblock, not an arbblock; I corrected it almost immediately. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:57, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- Gah, I thought that second amendment was a change in the block status or something. Sorry to bother you. Since I'm here anyway, a belated Happy New Year to you! Yunshui 雲水 09:11, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Or think of it as an early Asian New Year; and may your year of the horse be a propitious one! --Orange Mike | Talk 13:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Gah, I thought that second amendment was a change in the block status or something. Sorry to bother you. Since I'm here anyway, a belated Happy New Year to you! Yunshui 雲水 09:11, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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Move America forward
I don't know if you can see what i wrote on the talk page for the page you just blocked me from, but I would ask you read it and somhow explian how you feel putting up bad info is good for the page?
You shouldn't be allowed to just block accurate information on page with no reason.
66.60.164.18 (talk) 03:54, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Alos I see now that you also put up something saying neutrality is in question yes I think it is. When you dont even let someone put up the information about the spokeswoman for them be on the page, yeah thats not good, but at the same time you put up some stuff about obviously bias stuff, "i.e. what the egropu determines to be to liberal", what is that about? you use a cite from their website(what you said I couldn't do), and the link you provide shows nothing. Any non profit especially one that helps the our boys and girls deployed should be thanked not painted by someone political beliefs.
SOme stuff about cindy sheenan and micheal moore? that has nothing to do with care packages, supporting the troops or anything, also you have no cite. The history section you put in, says all this political stuff, to be honest I didn't research all that much but did look at the source links, one is a political bias opinion website and the other is some interview.
My changes included the people who started it, I just didn't go one for three paragraph about grey davis, I dont see how that has to do with anything. I talked to them and they said yeah the people who supported that we some of the first people to start supporting Move America forward by sending supplies to troops.
My point in all of this is you just blocked me, someone who wanted to help put information in this article and you stopped me. You stopped me from putting fact, obvious facts in favor or bad links and information that doesn't have anything to do with the page. It took me along time to figure how to do all this stuff so yeah i messed up when doing the ref links at first but that shouldn't ban me from doing it, I know how to do it better now. 66.60.164.18 (talk) 04:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- You keep putting in stuff about "our troops" and "success in the fight against terrorism" as if this was an American website dedicated to supporting the wars in Asia. Neutrality is one of our pillars; to an English-speaking reader from Pakistan, "our troops" means something entirely different from what it means to Americans like you and me. You have also not explained how this group leaps from feeding troops to opposing immigration law changes, as if the link were somehow self-evident. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Fritz Springmeier
Please put a reasonable time-limit on the full protection of Fritz Springmeier. With limited exceptions such as Office- or Arbcom-imposed or -sanctioned situations, "indefinite full protection" is a bad thing, frequently worse than the problem it solves.
Please reduce the terms of the full protection to something like 1-2 years, or less if possible. Consider putting and "update after" or similar template that will expire shortly before the full protection to remind the community to re-add at least semi-protection when the full protections expires.
If a "PC2-protection" proposal that would allow this article to be put under PC2 protection passes, consider immediately downgrading the protection to PC2 as soon as such a proposal passes. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 04:15, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Restitution of Jesús Omar Rivera
Hi Mike,
I need a restitution for Jesús Omar Rivera which you speedy deleted back in 2008. This person is quite notable in Puerto Rico per WP:BASIC: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
Could you please restitute the article?
feminist science fiction
Hi OM -- Please feel free to weigh in on feminist science fiction. It's become personal to me now so I'd rather step out, and I'm not sure that many other folks watch that page. --Lquilter (talk) 19:26, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
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Deletion review for Jesús Omar Rivera
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jesús Omar Rivera. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 13:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Mike. I realize that's an old discussion and you might already be doing this, but if more than one deletion criteria applies to a speedy, could you list them all? If this was purely an A7, a pure restore would have made sense. But sounds like it was also a G11. Just helps us non-admins make sense of things. Thanks! Hobit (talk) 16:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- You're entirely right, and I should have done so. At this point, there's not much to do about a 5.5 year old mistake.
- Yeah, I debated about even mentioning it. Thanks. Hobit (talk) 22:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- You're entirely right, and I should have done so. At this point, there's not much to do about a 5.5 year old mistake.
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Hi, this account tripped the edit filter a couple of times trying to paste a copy of your user page in Black Sabbath, in a manner consistent with those who vandalise templates and articles.
I've blocked the account at the moment, if you can confirm it's your account I'll happily unblock (or leave it to you to do the honours) but thought it prudent to lock it down in case it's an alternative account out to cause trouble. Nick (talk) 23:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Certainly wasn't me. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi there. You tagged this stub for notability a few years ago. What do you think about it now? Bearian (talk) 17:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Pretty darned marginal. Where's the requisite substantial coverage by reliable sources? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Please see
User:Smallbones/Questions on FTC rules - Smallbones(smalltalk) 13:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:45, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- OM, perhaps you might want to read [my comments on the relevant talk page [7]' DGG ( talk ) 19:30, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
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[8] Why G3: Blatant Hoax? Puffin Let's talk! 21:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Because the article title said "Triniton" but all that was posted was a cut-and-paste of the article Microsoft. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Wm. Knight
Hi-Wm. Knight's biographical sketch in the the Wisconsin Blue Book 1911, pg. 751. Thanks-RFD (talk) 23:41, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- I know; but I'm juggling three projects simultaneously, while expecting a call from my sweet patootie any moment. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- I added the citation to the article. Thanks-RFD (talk) 01:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your input Orangemike, I've now responded to your note on the talk page and it would be helpful if you could take a look and respond when you get time. Many thanks. Libby norman (talk) 23:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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You ought to see this as you've blocked the editor
And deleted a nonsense userpage. See Wikipedia:Help desk#Who do I talk to about this? "Mental Health Literacy" - seems like gibberish to me.. Dougweller (talk) 13:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
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I fixed this. 88.104.19.233 (talk) 01:13, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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help with File:Rational scale to assess the harm of drugs (mean physical harm and mean dependence).svg
hi, i'm trying to figure out what to do at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg. i am concerned about this file being a copyright violation, but i didn't see the edit button with which i could start the process of listing it as a possibly unfree file. so, just to see what would happen, i clicked the "create" button and sure enough it sent me here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg&action=edit, with an indication that you speedy deleted it back in 2009 under G12 (and G8) rationale. Yet when I click the link to the "deleted page," it sends me right back to the file, existing at an english wikipedia web address (not wikimedia). (i didn't end up saving anything or creating the page anew.) suggestions? El Chivo 2 (talk) 07:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- That file is on the Wikimedia Commons. You would have to take your concerns there. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- okay, thanks! El Chivo 2 (talk) 20:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Patti Southworth
Did you see my suggestions on User talk:Citizens for Patti Southworth? If this is the Patti who I've met, she is a local politician from Upstate New York. And no, I am not a supporter! Bearian (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- Never thought you were; but the "articles" posted were blatantly, shamelessly partisan and promotional, quite unsalvagably so. I could have blocked this as a spam-only account; but since it was a spam-only account with the name of a collective entity, I gave it a spam-username block. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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I didn't really see your name in the list of people having edited Gerhard Adolph Bading — the guy who beat Seidel and lost to Hoan in Milwaukee. Rather an interesting guy. You've got the books around to flesh this out a bit, I suspect, you might play with it if you have an inkling. I'm done with him now. Carrite (talk) 07:29, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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You deleted File:Rational scale to assess the harm of drugs (mean physical harm and mean dependence).svg long ago with a claim of copyvio. Looking at the deleted material there, I don't see an actual image. Do you remember any details of this situation? There's a commons DR for that filename that uses the fact that the filename on en.wp it's marked as deleted for copyvio as one of its arguments for deletion there. DMacks (talk) 03:51, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
(FYI, the commons deletion request is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg. Any input you have would be appreciated there.) El Chivo 2 (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- I will not lie; I don't even remember this illo or this deletion! --Orange Mike | Talk 02:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Deleted Page
Hi Orangemike, I started to create a page for my teacher, Peggy Dylan. The page was deleted for "advertising". I fail to see how a that particular page about a teacher and author is considered "advertising", when pages on Tony Robbins and Deepak Chopra for example are allowed. I am in the process of creating/editing a page, please let me know how the best and acceptable way to go about creating this page for her. Thanks! See: Peggy_Dylan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Owlmichael (talk • contribs) 14:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you don't see what wrong with promotional garbage like, "Peggy’s work embodies what Saints and Masters have taught for thousands of years – happiness and success come through our alignment with Spirit.", then I don't know how to communicate with you. If you want to advertise your guru, advertise her on your own website. We are running an encyclopedia here, not a listing service for "teachers" seeking seekers. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Orangemike, I went to create a wiki page for the band Tastexperience after realising that they did not have one, but it said there had been a page made for them before which had been deleted and I should contact you before proceeding? New to wikipedia so not quite sure of protocol. See: Tastexperience
Thanks, jazzy-jewel (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:32, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- You can't create articles for a band, but you can create one about them (see WP:OWN. The previous version (twice deleted) drew only on the website of the band's label, and contained absolutely no neutral coverage by reliable sources. In general, read WP:BAND to see what we're looking for; see the recently created Avila (duo) for a very minor example of the kind of external references we need for an assertion of notability to stick. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi Orangemike, My name is Robin Clark, the page I created was deleted and a new page about me was put up by you. I would like to know where you got your information from about me and my birth date is incorrect as well as some of the information. I am not very familiar with how to use Wikipedia but the reason I put up my own page is because there was another page up about me and there was partial information and incorrect information. If you could help me I would appreciate it. I am not even sure if this is where I should write you. Thank You ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonediva (talk • contribs) 23:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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Edward W. Dwight
Hi-Here is an article you might find interesting-Edward W. Dwight. He was a member of the Dwight family but seems to have done his own thing by going on a whaling expedition and then settling on a farm in Wisconsin. He served in the Wisconsin State Assembly in 1861 as a Republican. However, in the United States Presidential Election of 1880, he was a presidential elector for the Greenback Party. I thought you might find this interesting. Thanks-RFD (talk) 17:17, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Rachel Campos-Duffy and Sean Duffy
Hello. Thank you for your intervention. Question: There are still a couple of things in the Rachel Campos-Duffy article that need to be fixed, such as the passage about Jenny McCarthy replacing Elizabeth Hasselbeck. That passage is unsourced, but I have sources I'd like to add to it. The passage on Campos' master's degree, which the other editor added, is unsourced. I abstained from fixing them because I was afraid any further edits on my part might be viewed as edit warring. And then there's the passage about their children, which features two periods at the end of the last sentence, one before and one after the cite, because the other editor kept adding an extra period, despite my attempts to point out WP:PAIC. Should I give those sources to you, or should I wait for the protection to be lifted? Nightscream (talk) 19:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I made an edit request on the article's talk page. I had never done that before. Nightscream (talk) 19:57, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
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For blocking IP 172.243.183.183, who called another user an "ass". Bearian (talk) 14:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC) |
Query about a block
Hello, Mike. I wonder if you made a mistake in blocking 172.243.183.183 for edit warring for a second time. At User talk:172.243.183.183 you wrote "Edit-warring again; blocked again." However, as you can see in the block log for the IP address, the previous block expired at 18:53, 9 March, and Special:Contributions/172.243.183.183 shows that there have been no edits since then: the last edit from the IP address being an edit to the IP talk page at 15:28, 9 March. The talk page editing, while unconstructive, was not edit warring, as far as I can see. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:39, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- The talk page stuff was a form of edit warring, as I see it. But see also Bearian's note below this para. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm. There was talk page edit warring at one time, but not recently, as far as I can see. If I'm wrong, can you give a couple of diffs? Bearian's note below is irrelevant, because it refers to an incident that took place before the previous block, and in any case it is nothing to do with edit warring. A long block for WP:COMPETENCE reasons is likely to be on its way before long if the editor carries on in the same way, but I really cannot see any justification for the second block for edit warring. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
- Unblocked. Block was due to a mistake on my part in reading an edit history; my apologies. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:34, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm. There was talk page edit warring at one time, but not recently, as far as I can see. If I'm wrong, can you give a couple of diffs? Bearian's note below is irrelevant, because it refers to an incident that took place before the previous block, and in any case it is nothing to do with edit warring. A long block for WP:COMPETENCE reasons is likely to be on its way before long if the editor carries on in the same way, but I really cannot see any justification for the second block for edit warring. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
172.243.183.183
Hey, Orangemike, why did you reblock this IP address? Looking at their contribs, it would appear that they haven't edited anything outside their user talk page since the first block. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:05, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
- Unblocked. Block was due to a mistake on my part in reading an edit history; my apologies. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:34, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
- Heh, thanks, and sorry for the duplicate section from above. :) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:35, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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questions about you blocking me
Hello orangemike,
1)You blocked me on 18:53, 7 March 2014 for edit warring. Why were my edits warring and not nightscream's?
I was trying to edit and nightscream would also edit(whichh was a revert to nightscream's version)
in the middle of my edit so I had to start over.
I honestly feel bias as nightscream threatened me and then immediatley after you come and block.
2 Why was I blocked for 48hours when the standard is 24?
3 Could you unlock Rachel Campos and Sean Duffy?
4 How come when I asked for unblock you never replied?
5 Are you neutral? I feel bias from you as you blocked me again
on 20:40, 9 March 2014 when I edited nowhere but my wikipedia
page trying to understand you/the block. 172.243.183.183 (talk) 03:19, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hello again, Mike. I have become quite tired of this IP editor's endless WP:IDHT. I have explained on the IP talk page why you didn't respond to the unblock request. You, of course, have already explained that the second block was a mistake, and he/she can scarcely have failed to notice that you have now lifted the block. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:28, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Denbigh High School (Jamaica)
Dear Orangemike,
This is only a courtesy visit to inform you that I took the liberty to slightly expand the above article supporting it with a relevant references. Hopefully, you'd like it. Best regards, (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2014 (UTC))
- I'm delighted somebody was willing to try; but I'll have to have a look to see what was done. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Menomonee, Wisconsin
Hi Mike-I expanded the Menomonee, Wisconsin article a little that you started. I hope you like. Also please don't forget about the David Giddings article-he was in the Wisconsin Assembly and later served as a presidential elector for the Greenback Party. Thanks-RFD (talk) 14:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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Being civil on Filipino-topic pages
I do try. Have you seen how these pages are written and maintained? There is terrible English grammar, deliberate untruths, no references, no citations, and nothing, but angry trolls. Filipino culture, history, religion, civics, etc. are a major hobby of mine. I would like to see these pages improved. Especially since many people know little about these topics. There needs to be some more policing on these pages. And not towards myself. Cheers. Presidentbalut (talk) 03:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Michael Frank
Hi-I started an article about Michael Frank. He was involved in the Free Soil Party. Also there was a community in Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin-New Cassell, Wisconsin. I think it is part of Campbellsport, Wisconsin now-thanks-RFD (talk) 22:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Many thanks Mike-I like it! You did an excellent job! RFD (talk) 08:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Milwaukee's Sherman Park Neighborhood
Hi Orange Mike,
I am curious what makes the line you deleted in the Milwaukee Neighborhoods entry "shamelessly" promotional? Is it the word "vibrant"? The fact that the group promoted "cultural diversity, commercial viability, and quality housing stock since the early 1970s"? Or, is it simply that I used Paul Geenan's book as a source?
I noticed that the only other cited line in this sub-entry comes from Beth Jehudah's own website. What makes that a more reliable source? Is that source any less promotional? How do Wikipedia editors like yourself account for entry annotations that are not sourced whatsoever?
I assure you I do not work for or represent this group in any capacity. In fact, my own research as a UWM History PhD student is rather critical of their actions when it comes to addressing neighborhood street crime. Alas, I understand that this is not the information/source I am using to cite this particular line I wrote and is not relevant to this particular entry.
That being said, as a historian, I know that this particular community association's many contributions to Sherman Park's overall development was/is significant and relevant. I think it belongs in this entry.
So how do we find common ground as Wikipedia contributors? I have other sources that I can use to confirm what is written in this line. But, what - on Wikipedia's terms - even constitutes a verifiable source? Organizational websites, like Beth Jehudah's? Do I even need to use a source for every line? I am trying to learn how this process works and I can see that you have been doing this for a long time and know that process well.
Best, MKE History — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkehistory (talk • contribs) 15:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that the Beth Jehudah is not a good source either. Our basic stance is, better remove poorly sourced content if you can't source it adequately. What we really expect are the same kinds of sources you'd use in a paper, except that we are not very big on primary sources, preferring a solid secondary or even tertiary. That company in S. Carolina is notorious for the stuff they pay hungry writers to clobber together, with a mission of describing the subject in glowing prose to encourage people with emotional ties to the place to buy the book. While you and I both know from personal observations "that this particular community association's many contributions to Sherman Park's overall development was/is significant and relevant", Wikipedia standards exclude our personal observations if they cannot be backed up by verifiable content from neutral, reliable sources. Think: "Could I defend this citation to this source in a thesis defense where one member of the panel is hostile to my conclusions?" --Orange Mike | Talk 17:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC) (UW-M History B.A. magna cum laude; couldn't afford to do grad school, though the department wanted me to)
Much repeated gallery
How many of these do you suppose are problematic? [9] -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- A lot, but probably not all. The first thing to do is to remove all the spamlinks and the "Eustacious Prentitious is represented by the Marianne Boesky Gallery, New York" garbage. (Could we do a global search for all the "X is represented by Y" that would exclude actual non-spam about legislative districts and other meanings of the word "represented"? I fear not.) --Orange Mike | Talk 20:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I looked for Eustacious_Prentitious, but luckily they've already been deleted. ;-) With a name like that, no wonder!
- In seriousness, I took this idea and did some searching, some sorting, some plucking by likely keywords... and came up with 1k likely targets. Please see User_talk:74.192.84.101#999_talent_agencies_on_the_wall. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 00:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Laity
I told the SPA to knock it off. Over twenty hours later, he hadn't made any further edit, good or bad, but anyway you blocked him, posting a notice that came with the edit summary: you cannot use us to advertise your crank lawsuit, even if this were real (which is does not seem to be; apparently, it's a hoax.
When somebody is given a warning not to do something, he either follows this up with more of the same or doesn't. The former might call for a block. The latter doesn't: blocks should not be punitive.
Further, let's suppose for a moment that the lawsuit is real. I'd then (cough) have my own, very clear opinion on its degree of crankiness; but this opinion would be irrelevant to the charge of spamming. (No, hang on: when editing at all, the user is keen to add this factoid to the article aptly titled "conspiracy theories". All things being equal, crankiness is appropriate.)
The block seems entirely unnecessary, and the phrasing of its delivery makes it worse. Perhaps you were tired or distracted when you made it. (I've done similar.) Anyway, please reconsider it. -- Hoary (talk) 03:15, 16 March 2014 (UTC) ... Fixed laughable mistake, symptomatic of caffeine deficiency. -- Hoary (talk) 05:12, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- After four years of NPOV violations, BLP violations, etc. the SPA posted an advertisement apparently intended to advertise his obscure effort to "take this to the highest court in the land". This was a preventative, not punitive, short-term block of an editor who has never contributed anything to this project. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:06, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I can agree with most of that. Part of it I disagree with. Such extremes (in my view) of prevention provide ammo for the wingnuts' charges that WP is a librul conspiracy. Me, I tend toward the other, "give them enough rope" approach. ¶ Anyway, he's free to appeal his block. -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- We gave him four years of rope, and he never contributed a morsel of substance. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- I certainly can't produce any counter-evidence to this. -- Hoary (talk) 12:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- Uhmmm. The guy has only edited four days, with a total of 17 edits: one in July 2009, two consecutive in Sept 2010, and his most recent attempt on the 15th of March this year. I don't know if the block itself was uber-harsh, though I suspect it was; do we normally hit people who insert WP:SPIP a second time, with a mandatory spam-preventative block of a week? As for the edit-summary, that was anything but WP:NICE, and factually incorrect besides. Here is the NYS dismissal,[10] and here is the follow-up SCOTUS lawsuit.[11] Although the suit isn't WP:NOTEWORTHY as yet, because the event hasn't been picked up by the WP:RS media, that's no excuse for pouring acid. He's trying to add factual information, and to cite sources.[12] Sure, he hasn't figured out not to sign his contribs to mainspace, or that blogs aren't good enough for WP:RS except in rare cases, but that is par for the course, eh? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 02:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Strangely enough, I can see good arguments for either a much longer block, or for no block at all, but not for a one week block. The editor's only purpose here is to promote a point of view, and to publicise his own actions. He has done nothing else other than that over a period of a few months short of five years. An account that exists purely for promotional purposes can be blocked indefinitely, whereas this editor has been blocked for a mere week. The fact that the editing is sporadic, with long gaps, in my opinion increases the case for a long or indefinite block, rather than a short one. That is because a short block may well fall within a period in which the editor would not have edited anyway, so that (1) it obviously fails to prevent disruptive editing while the block is in force, and (2) the editor may never even notice that there was a block that was over by the next time he tries to edit, so it has no deterrent effect on later editing: this in both cases it fails to be preventive. A long, or even indefinite block, however, may serve to prevent this person from continuing to misuse Wikipedia for promotion in the future, so it would be preventive. There is therefore, I think, a good case for saying that the only thing wrong with the block is that it is unreasonably short. On the other hand, there is a case for saying that, since the editor had not even been warned of a possible block, any immediate block, short or long, is unreasonable. Only in extreme circumstances do I regard it as acceptable to block an editor who has never been told that a block is a possibility. My own preference in this situation would have been to have given the editor a clear warning that what he has been doing is totally unacceptable (not merely a little inadvisable in some editors' opinions, which is an interpretation the existing warnings leave open) and that any more of the same would be likely to lead to an immediate block. If that was followed by more of the same kind of editing, I would have gone for an immediate long block, missing out the short block, which for an editor who edits so sporadically is unlikely to be preventive, and amounts to a token gesture. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:28, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Uhmmm. The guy has only edited four days, with a total of 17 edits: one in July 2009, two consecutive in Sept 2010, and his most recent attempt on the 15th of March this year. I don't know if the block itself was uber-harsh, though I suspect it was; do we normally hit people who insert WP:SPIP a second time, with a mandatory spam-preventative block of a week? As for the edit-summary, that was anything but WP:NICE, and factually incorrect besides. Here is the NYS dismissal,[10] and here is the follow-up SCOTUS lawsuit.[11] Although the suit isn't WP:NOTEWORTHY as yet, because the event hasn't been picked up by the WP:RS media, that's no excuse for pouring acid. He's trying to add factual information, and to cite sources.[12] Sure, he hasn't figured out not to sign his contribs to mainspace, or that blogs aren't good enough for WP:RS except in rare cases, but that is par for the course, eh? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 02:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I certainly can't produce any counter-evidence to this. -- Hoary (talk) 12:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- We gave him four years of rope, and he never contributed a morsel of substance. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I can agree with most of that. Part of it I disagree with. Such extremes (in my view) of prevention provide ammo for the wingnuts' charges that WP is a librul conspiracy. Me, I tend toward the other, "give them enough rope" approach. ¶ Anyway, he's free to appeal his block. -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Orangemike: You put a username block on Smpcorp and also deleted their draft, User:Smpcorp/Standard Motor Products, Inc.. I had advised them to try to avoid the block, as you may have seen on their talk page. But I'd like to ask you to undelete the draft article, or to let me do so. It has references to a brief New York Times article as well as a fairly long New York Daily News article, and I'm finding some articles in Google News Archives. Some of the directory listings the editor had included as references also have actual paragraphs about the company: Thompson-Reuters, and Forbes (in the latter case requiring a further click through). Plus it's listed on the NYSE, and although WP:CORP cautions that listing on a major stock exchange is not enough in itself to establish notability, it notes that it's a strong indication that enough can be found to do so. I'd be prepared to rewrite it from the sources (I have yet to do an article on an auto parts reseller!), or it could be submitted to AfC as the editor had originally intended. The editor herself (?) has obviously had some bad advice, and I can't figure out whether she has actually created a new account, but she was trying to do it right - and the company is, I think on re-examination, notable enough for a short article. Yngvadottir (talk) 00:45, 19 March 2014 (UTC) P.S.: Look at this that someone else found. Yngvadottir (talk) 00:53, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not unfamiliar with Standard Motor Products as a corporation. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:38, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was, and hadn't realized on first viewing the draft that it was notable - I went by what I saw there. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:32, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- Orangemike, you seem to still be fairly heavy-handed towards users with declared conflicts of interests trying to add to the project. Better than in the past, and I do appreciate that you eventually softened the block and moved the article to mainspace and improved it, but could you please lighten your hand a bit more in cases like the above? This version of the SMP article was surprisingly neutral in its presentation and very well-referenced and COI editing is not prohibited if users strive to remain neutral. And Sarahehill, having cut her teeth doing this work for her employer, may very well move onto other topics of interest outside her outside her conflict of interest area, as other initially COI-editors users may as well. After all, we are struggling to attract and maintain our editor base. Thank you, –xenotalk 14:16, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- cf. [13] " I would like to know
more about the community, so when I am not at work I can possibly get involved." Thanks for your consideration, –xenotalk 17:50, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
This seems to be a common problem. The create-an-account page[14] just asks for a username, passwd, repeat-passwd, and optional-email. It gives no guidance on the page itself... there is a (Help me choose) link above the enter-your-username-box, but the nutshell is vague: "When choosing an account name, do not choose names which may be offensive, misleading, disruptive, or promotional. In general, one username should represent one person."
Methinks we need something more imperative: "Do NOT use the name of your company/band/organization as a username; for copyright-assignment reasons, please stick to exactly one human per username." Where would I suggest adding that sentence onto the create-an-acccount page? It is in the Special namespace, so there is no edit-button nor talkpage. Yngvadottir or Xeno, or other talkstalks, may know this answer? p.s. I guess the bigger question is, do we *want* to give more-imperative advice? Or is the create-a-username page purposely vague, so that PR folks will tend to reveal themselves, during the username-creation-phase? 74.192.84.101 (talk) 00:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, and I think we used to have something more like that but if I recall correctly, some WMF staffer came and unilaterally changed it in the name of simplicity or somesuch. I'll take a look tomorrow if I get time. –xenotalk 01:40, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- I have never understood the "don't openly use the name of your company, but instead choose a name which hides your connection to the company you are editing for" attitude. Whatever our policies say, and whatever the "Create account" page says, and whatever anything else anywhere on Wikipedia may say, there will always be people who create accounts with the sole purpose of editing on behalf of the company they own or are employed by. How on earth does it make things better to deliberately encourage such editors to hide their conflict of interest by telling them they have to use a username which obscures their connection to their company, rather than one which openly declares their conflict of interest? 10:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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I have edited and revised the article (thank you for helping me with editing). I thought the article was now ready for posting it in the main space. One administrator did help me to advise, how I can post it for review, but warned that the article did not have sufficient references, and would be deleted again. This leaves me confused. I have 4 credible references (when Sultana Islam lived the digital system was not available due to which her activities are not found on the web.) I have shortened the article further more to reflect the 4 credible references. Please see the revised article below. Would appreciate your help, so that I am able to post it, and that it will not be deleted.
Sultana Islam was a Bengali social worker, educator, journalist and writer (http://archive.thedailystar.net/magazine/2008/08/02/tribute.htm). In 1953 Sultana received the Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Medal in recognition of outstanding community contribution in erstwhile East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). Life Sultana Islam was born on September 5, 1925 in Kolkata, India. She was raised and educated in India, and lived with her family in Bangladesh. Sultana died on August 16, 2003. From an early age Islam was a dedicated social worker. She contributed much of her time in the welfare of the society particularly in women’s empowerment, alleviate poverty, reduce illiteracy, improve children’s health and education, and represented her country in the international arena. Nationally and internationally she promoted peace and harmony irrespective of race, color and creed and emphasized the importance of human values. Sultana was a role model for women of her generation in South Asia. Community services[edit] Sultana is best known for her community services. In 1972 Sultana Islam founded the National Women Federation (NWF) Bangladesh. Under her leadership many development projects were initiated which contributed in the reconstruction of the newly liberated country – Bangladesh. Between March 1990 to November 1991 she was chairman of Jatiyo Mahila Sangstha.[1]. Writer[edit] Sultana Islam completed her Bachelor’s degree in Bengali literature from Bankura Christian College. In 1941 Rabindranath Tagore, theNobel Prize winner in Literature visited Bankura. Islam was selected by the organizing committee to welcome the great poet with her poem. Tagore was impressed by her creative writing, and invited her to join Shantinekatan. In 1942, when very few women in Asia were seen in journalism, Sultana was the first women editor of the college magazine. She encouraged young women of the region to contribute articles and express their thoughts. Sultana Islam was a progressive woman, but also had respect for her tradition and culture. In order to preserve all that information for the future generation in 1987 she wrote and published Woman’s World. Part I described many South Asian traditional methods of taking care of the newborn, food recipes and Part II related to Islamic teachings and prayers.
References[edit] 1. Jump up^ [1] External links[edit] • Jatiyo Mahila Sangstha (JMS): http://www.jms.gov.bd/bn/chairman • Woman of Distinction: http://archive.thedailystar.net/magazine/2008/08/02/tribute.htm • Bankura Christian College: http://www.bankurachristiancollege.in/bengali.htm • The Woman’s World Part I and Part II: Author- Sultana Islam. Published 22 April, 1987 • Community Bankura http://bankura.org.in/Portal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:historicaledifices&catid=50:history
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- There are a lot of problems here with style and tone. For one thing, you keep referring to her by her first name rather than her last name. You also need to work on how to format your references. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:55, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Ref deletion discussion on : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2F5pm
Hi, I wanted to ask your help to keep this list comprehensive and relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_project_management_software
The deletion of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5pm article removed a popular, notable and old product from this list. Please help restore the article to allow edits to it, if necessary. The list has been a great help to people looking for PM tools and any help keeping it complete and relevant is appreciated.
Thank you in advance. 76.182.87.119 (talk) 14:35, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- We do not pretend to have an exhaustive or comprehensive list of every program in a given category: this is an encyclopedia, not a directory.
- The article is poorly formatted, with a "feature list" and a lot of inappropriate external links instead of actual information. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
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I seem to recall that you are wonderfully against paid editing :)
I am standing too close to an article that has been fed and watered by a probable paid editor, and thus feel incompetent to cut through the drivel to the facts. I wondered if you might take your mighty axe (or small hatchet) to it? Swinton Insurance is the article, and my own talk page has a conversation with the PR person. In a way I'm sorry for them because they seem to have accepted a brief without understanding that they can never fulfil it. Fiddle Faddle 17:53, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- The pruning is appreciated. Fiddle Faddle 00:14, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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Watch for some fun student videos in the next week or so. Crepes, Figure skating, Guinness, Tostones and Drinking fountain (aka as we know in Milwaukee, Bubbler) are all live now.
Open Proxy Restriction
Hello, my access to Persian Wiki has been limited by Vituzzu . I live in Iran and I have to use a VPN connection to have a fair access to free net. And the reason for my restriction is "Open proxy" policies on Wiki. I contacted Vittuzu and he did NOT answer me. I want to participate in writing articles on Persian wiki again. What should I do? Bbadree (talk) 14:55, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Sadly, I have no power or contacts in the Persian Wiki. You will have to contact an admin there. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Marie-Josée Saint-Pierre
Hi there. I think I've addressed most of the tone issues at Marie-Josée Saint-Pierre -- had you seen my edits before tagging? Also, I don't believe her notability is in question. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Lines like blurs the lines between documentary and drama must be sourced to a reliable source. Terms like "legendary" must be purged. And everything needs sourcing and proper footnotes. It seems like it's hard to make a short and NOT get an award nowadays if you make enough festivals; it's worse than ad agencies. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:00, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oops, yes, I missed those. Cut them and tidied up the maintenance tags. Even with Google's diminished news search function, I'm able to find an Elle magazine article about her, she's been interviewed by a Quebec film trade website and I see she's had a retrospective at the Cinémathèque québécoise. So yes, a lot of local stuff, as far as I can find, as opposed to the international notability claimed (which may be there: I just can't find it). But that, plus things like the Jutra Award, which is fwiw Quebec's top film prize, makes me think she does meet notability guidelines for filmmakers. Of course, if you disagree, I'll leave the notability tag where it is. As for the four bare URLs at bottom, that first one is an WP:RS, I think. Maybe some of the others as well. If you care to, let me know what you think. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- The well was also poisoned by the involvement of Saint-Pierre herself (or somebody using the name of her company) in fluffing up the article. I also suspect there may have been some auto-translation, with the horrors that leads to. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:41, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Great, well, I'll whittle away at it this weekend, if I can. I'm pretty sure I can turn it into something acceptable. I won't leave in any unsupported statements: if it's unverified, it goes. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:00, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- The well was also poisoned by the involvement of Saint-Pierre herself (or somebody using the name of her company) in fluffing up the article. I also suspect there may have been some auto-translation, with the horrors that leads to. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:41, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oops, yes, I missed those. Cut them and tidied up the maintenance tags. Even with Google's diminished news search function, I'm able to find an Elle magazine article about her, she's been interviewed by a Quebec film trade website and I see she's had a retrospective at the Cinémathèque québécoise. So yes, a lot of local stuff, as far as I can find, as opposed to the international notability claimed (which may be there: I just can't find it). But that, plus things like the Jutra Award, which is fwiw Quebec's top film prize, makes me think she does meet notability guidelines for filmmakers. Of course, if you disagree, I'll leave the notability tag where it is. As for the four bare URLs at bottom, that first one is an WP:RS, I think. Maybe some of the others as well. If you care to, let me know what you think. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
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The whitewashers are at it again. I've opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Webgrasp since as you will see they have an astonishingly similar methodology. Could you flex your adminly muscles, please? Pinkbeast (talk) 13:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Horace A. Tenney
Hi-Are you still planning to start article about Horace A. Tenney who served in the Wisconsin Assembly and then ran for Congress on the Greenback ticket? I hope you and your family are doing well-thanks-RFD (talk) 09:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- He's a big figure; I want to give him his due, and that probably won't be until after my bargaining unit conference this weekend. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:35, 3 April 2014 (UTC) (president and Administrative Support Unit delegate, WSEU Local 91)
Help for a student?
Hello! One of my students made a video she'd like to add to the Water article, which is semi-protected. She's made a series of edits that should allow for autoconfirm on her account... is there anything else she needs to do to be able to add her video? Thanks for any guidance you can offer! Jgmikulay (talk) 20:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- Has she uploaded it to the Commons yet? --Orange Mike | Talk 20:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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Deleting the wiki page on International Society on Multiple Criteria Decision Making
Hi! Why did you feel that the wiki page on International Society on Multiple Criteria Decision Making was so insignificant that it was to be deleted? I had contested the deletion and added notes on the talk page, why I felt that this is not the case. However, the page was anyway deleted. I would like to get the page back and I do not think that writing the stuff again is very constructive. BTW, I had not started the page, but I was just editing it... In addition, there were pages pointing to that page so it was used. --Markus Hartikainen (talk) 18:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Citing 2 references is not original research
Mike, if this bibliography simply switched to inline citations to the 2 references instead of the unfortunate phrase "was compiled", without changing anything about it substantively, there is no way it could be construed as original research. By the standard you gave, every Wikipedia article is original research, because it contains information citable to several references. Do you see what I mean? — ¾-10 19:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- An appallingly exhaustive bibliography like that, compiled by your own efforts, on an article that small, is also way outside the boundaries of WP:UNDUE as I read it. But let's continue this discussion on the article's talk page. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:58, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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The original intent of that page is that it is a proposal/draft for a new Wikipedia journalism magazine, not something else. }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 20:34, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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User Mediass4u
Hello Michael. There where some edits on the MediaWiki wiki by Mediass4u. I noticed you recently blocked a user with the same name. I am not implying it is the same "person" but a little voice in my head says it is :) but I leave that to the experts. Regards, and have a nice weekend. --Felipe (talk) 08:27, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Orangemike, on 15:58, 28. Feb. 2013 you deleted Tim Davies. Could you please move or copy that page to my user namespace so I could try to make a valid article of it with indication of importance etc. ? -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 19:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, what was deleted under the name Tim Davies was an advert for the album Counting Down The Numbers from Cromwell Studios, written by User:Cromwellstudios. It was not an article about Davies in any form. You'd be much better off working from scratch. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:04, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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Louise Kennedy query
Would you consider the PR edits to Louise Kennedy by a "major contributor"? I'm not so sure that badge fits, as I seem to be the only "major contributor" and I'm hoping I can work with the PR dept to address their accuracy concerns... Mabalu (talk) 13:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
user:Julia.mielczarek and I have passed the three-revert rule on this article. I reviewed the article at AfC and cleaned up the promotion before accepting it. User:PamD has provided a COI warning, and the editor continued to edit-war in spite of it without discussion. I know technically we should go to the 3RR board and treat each other like "fellow editors" but I think in this case the COI and promotion is obvious enough and I was hoping you might alleviate the pestiness with a block or temporary article-protection until they lose interest. CorporateM (Talk) 17:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry I thought it was saving error. Any suggestions to make it less "promotion-like" would be very much appreciated. Also in the future when I want to make an edit I should add it to the talk page? Julia.mielczarek (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:52, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
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hi orangemike, azizul haque is a islami scholar https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Azizul_Haque_(scholar)&action=history. So please don't change the title of this article. There are many articles where there are written "islamic scholar" thaks 86.185.186.84 (talk) 13:55, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- Please see the talk page of the article for an explanation of why I made this move. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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I saw that you live in Milwaukee (based on your userpage), so if you're interested, I wanted to invite you to a humanities edit-a-thon in the Madison Public Library on Friday, April 25th (1:30–3:30). It'll be on the shorter side and is aimed at new editors, but I hope to see you there. More information is available on the 2014 UW Conference on the Public Humanities website. Let me know if you have any questions czar ♔ 03:35, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- I work for a living and cannot take off a random work day for this, especially on this short a notice. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:15, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- I work for a living too. I'll be sure to give more advance notice next time. czar ♔ 12:35, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry if I seemed snippish, but that's the middle of a work day for me and most folks, and I'm a two hour drive away. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:41, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- I work for a living too. I'll be sure to give more advance notice next time. czar ♔ 12:35, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Your input requested
I've been trying to get some input on it, but perhaps the reason I haven't gotten any feedback is because it is rather long. I was wondering if you had any thoughts: User:CorporateM/Extant Organizations
The BLP policy focuses on treating the person's reputation with respect and for medical articles we have one about sources. This one for Org articles focuses on WP:NOT. Was thinking of just posting it as an essay or something - might be less controversial than meddling in actual policies and guidelines. CorporateM (Talk) 20:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
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Filk
I did not mean to offend, and for offense given, I apologize. I am personally involved in many similar activities, and have many close friends in the fandom. But that there are groups of people that enjoy an activity, and have enjoyed it for decades, does not mean it is notable and encyclopedic. WP:N and WP:RS are pretty clear on the standards, and I honestly and sincerely believe the bar is not met here. Is it not telling that almost every keep !vote comes from someone personally involved in filk in some way and have pre-existing relationships with the Dr? That there are no/minimal outside sources on these articles? Can you honestly say that you are judging the notability of these articles by the same yardstick that you do for topics you are not involved with? Gaijin42 (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think my record is pretty clear on this. Filk is one of those things which does not get a lot of online attention; but filking as an activity and a verb has been attested back to 1961. It was the gratuitous invocation of WP:MADEUP which really caused me to question the good faith of your position. That does not mean I reject your apology. You can walk into any SF con and find literally hundreds of filk CDs on sale, by no means all self-published; and compared to some of the more esoteric variants of rock, the practicioners are (I believe) more widespread and better known by far, if less commercially successful. It is the broadness of the filk movement which makes a question like "can I major in filk at a conservatory?" meaningless; after all, can you major in psybient at one? (And by the way, the two SF-related names I recognize in the deletion discussion are NOT filkers by any means; I don't think most of them even know about this discussion yet.) --Orange Mike | Talk 03:05, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- Isn't "not getting a lot of attention" the core of WP:N? I seriously have a lot of respect for the concept of filk. It takes a lot of talent and skill to make good parodies (or "serious" filk) , and to write original music, and to perform in public (especially in an ad hoc manner like this). (I do question calling a social phenomenon a "genre" though)
- I am happy for the people who can find satisfaction doing what they like and getting recognition from their peers and associates for it.
- As for madeup, I can see why you took umbrage with it, and as I said, I apologize for any offense, but I don't think the application is entirely unwarranted. As madeup says "Of course, everything in Wikipedia was made up or discovered by someone at some point in time, so how can your idea join them? Essentially, you have to persuade someone else that it's important first – and that someone has to think it's sufficiently important to write a book, a newspaper or magazine article, or an academic paper on your idea." That hasn't happened to any significant degree imo. Even for the top level filk pages there is a noticeable lack of reliable sourcing. Maybe thats a criticism of the media/outside world more than the filkers, but it is what it is.
- In any case, the AFD will run whatever course it runs. I don't plan on nominating any other articles in the area at this time, and if this one sticks around it certainly won't be the article that brings down the wiki. As a fellow Wisconsinite, I am stating my opinion in good faith, and I trust you are too, and if we all agreed all the time working the wiki would get pretty boring :) Gaijin42 (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
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Ideas for update strategy?
Hi Orangemike,
I see that you on May 2nd, 2013 undid the changes I made on the page 'Egmont Group' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egmont_Group because I did so on behalf of Egmont.
I/we completely agree with the principle of keeping editors at arm's length and would not touch anything but objective, factual details. However, as I exclusively corrected typos and made factual changes regarding key figures and the like and as these changes were referenced directly to up-to-date information I fail to see why it was necessary to undo them? After all, the common interest must be to keep Wikipedia as correct as possible.
Nonetheless, as you do not find me suitable to update the page, could you perhaps give me some pointers on the easiest way to have the changes made so that the site can once again reflect the current situation? Would you maybe be able to make the changes yourself?
Two things are the most pressing:
Firstly, key figures (revenue, operating income, total equity, number of employees, total donations) should be changed to match the most recent numbers from 2013 - see official press release with information here: http://www.egmont.com/int/Press/news-and-press-releases/Egmont-sets-new-record/#.U1j4J1V_t8E The figures that are currently showing are two years old.
Secondly, 'music' is no longer part of Egmont's business areas and has not been so for a long time so that should be deleted.
Also, as you revoked all of my editorial changes I will kindly ask you to remove the box at the top of the page that right now states: "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (May 2013)". Clearly, this is not the case as none of my changes from May 2013 show on the site.
I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks!
Best regards,
Jespermikk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jespermikk (talk • contribs) 14:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- The thing to do is to suggest these changes on the talk page of the article. Do be aware that there is no deadline here - this is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper or trade directory, and having the latest quarter's figures is not a matter of urgency. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Orangemike. Thank you very much. I have suggested the changes on the talk page of the article. On a side note, I/we agree that quarter figures and the like are not a matter of urgency but we figured that it was time for an update seeing as the shown ones are now a couple of years old. Best regards, Jespermikk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jespermikk (talk • contribs) 09:13, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Mike. I wonder if you'd mind taking a moment to review the block on this user? I can't say as I see anything grossly promotional in her editing (although I'd suggest that her unblock be conditional on her refraining from writing directly about her clients, at least to begin with), and there's nothing wrong with her proposed username. Any thoughts? Yunshui 雲水 11:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- I agree on the name; I'm just not certain that this person realizes how unwelcome promotional efforts are here. As long as you emphasize that, and keep an eye on her, go ahead. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:31, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- Will do. Cheers - have a good weekend. Yunshui 雲水 12:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Orange Mike, I noticed you deleted my page on Human Rights Activist Greg Scarlatoiu. There seemed to be two potential problems, a conflict of interest and failure to establish notability. I tried to write the article in a neutral tone and establish that Mr. Scarlatoiu is a leader in the field having testified in Congress on multiple occasions and having numerous media appearances. I wonder if you have any specific recommendations or advice on how to make my article acceptable? Are there any specific lines/sections that are unbalanced? What other information would be needed to establish notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkfreedom (talk • contribs) 20:03, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- 1. Are you, or do you work for, Scarlatoiu?
- 2. Are there press articles, book passages, etc., which are about Scarlatoiu himself, rather than about his organization or his cause? --Orange Mike | Talk 14:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Apologies, apparently Wikipedia did not like my username as well. I have met, but am not, and have never worked for Mr. Scarlatoiu. I can provide the sources you request, but they are mostly in Korean. If properly supported, is there anything from my original article that needs to be edited or removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghb123 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Are the articles from non-partisan sources, such as major centrist newspapers? Do you have biographical sources about Scarlatiou that are more impartial and reliable than his CV or the website of his old employer? Also note that school scholarships and "best speech by a foreigner in our language" awards are the sorts of things that are generally not worthy of an encyclopedia entry. See WP:BIO for some more guidance. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:52, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Orange Mike, no problem, I/we can get rid of the awards section. Here are a few articles about the individual rather than the cause in major Korean newspapers. Sorry that they happen to be in Korean. Radio Free Asia (http://www.rfa.org/korean/weekly_program/rfa_interview/rfainvitation-11072011103330.html), Yonhap (http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin/2011/10/19/0200000000AKR20111019019900071.HTML), Segye (http://www.segye.com/content/html/2012/12/18/20121218023408.html), Donga Daily (http://news.donga.com/List/Series_70030000000685/3/70030000000685/20121228/51893021/1). He has also appeared in mainstream, English language news outlets, but only as an expert on the issue. It might also help to mention that he has been a returning visiting professor at Haunkuk University of Foreign Studies.
Would it be possible for me to revise the article and send it directly to you for review? What would be the best way to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghb123 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
- Make your suggestions on the talk page of the article, rather than here: that way more interested editors can see and comment. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Great. Sorry to bother you again, but I thought the talk page was deleted with the article? If not, how can I find it. Sorry, I'm quite new to this. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghb123 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- It's been moved to a sandbox, where you can work on improving it, at User:Ghb123/Greg Scarlatoiu. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
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Orangemike,
I wonder if you could explain the reason you included a link to a copyright violating video on Youtube within the text of a blocknotice that you left here. I was shocked when I saw this - it seems wildly inappropriate, and I want to give you the chance to explain what you were thinking so that I can better evaluate it. I look forward to your response. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:30, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- WTF? - I vaguely recall that I had forwarded that link to a friend earlier during that computer session, so it must have been on my clipboard. I certainly didn't mean to post it anywhere on Wikipedia! Thanks to you or whoever cleaned it out. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:57, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- FYI, nobody did remove it, its still there. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Orangemike, I'm glad to hear that it was a mistake, and thank you for removing it. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 03:01, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- FYI, nobody did remove it, its still there. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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Block needed
You are at the top of "recent changes", so would you please block Special:Contributions/TeletubbiesLoveTubbyToast. They posted at ANI with a "logout" link in the signature. I deleted the post but now I'm concerned a block may not occur for a while. Johnuniq (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm curious how you know this user is connected with the OSU brewing program. Couldn't (s)he just be a person who likes beer who goes to OSU? Valfontis (talk) 03:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- The draft article (if you'll pardon the pun) at User:OSUBrew/sandbox was about Corvallis-area breweries which have been created by graduates and affiliates of the OSU Fermentation Science Program. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't know that. Good sleuthing. And you're not even Orange because you went to OSU! But what do I know, I went to UO. I do like beer though. I'm just a bit worried about scaring off good faith editors, the beer coverage for Oregon in Wikipedia is abysmal. Hopefully they will come up with a new user name and come back and do some helpful editing. Valfontis (talk) 03:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- I too would hope so. Sadly, this was just about their only beer-related edit. (And now I've got another school to add to my list of, "No, I didn't go there, I just like the color".) The schools I went to have had green and gold, blue and white, or black and gold as their colors. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:53, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't know that. Good sleuthing. And you're not even Orange because you went to OSU! But what do I know, I went to UO. I do like beer though. I'm just a bit worried about scaring off good faith editors, the beer coverage for Oregon in Wikipedia is abysmal. Hopefully they will come up with a new user name and come back and do some helpful editing. Valfontis (talk) 03:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
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Robert Sirota
Mike, I see you deleted a previous version of Robert Sirota which I was just going to start an article on. Could you userfy or forward the previous text for me so I can see if there is anything salvagable? Gaijin42 (talk) 21:32, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I can't; it was deleted as a copyright violation, since it was basically a copy of http://www.robertsirota.com/index.php?page=about (and thus not very good for NPOV either). --Orange Mike | Talk 00:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
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I noticed you were previously involved in the page about a year ago. I've posted here regarding some BLP and notability concerns. Someone disagreed with me so far saying that op-eds are acceptable sources for the opinion of the author, even for contentious material about a BLP. Maybe you can tell me if I'm crazy to think the article is out-of-step. CorporateM (Talk) 03:09, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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It seems like most of the bad edits to Michael Tobias were made by non-autoconfirmed accounts. Doesn't this mean that indefinite semi-protection would suffice, rather than indefinite full protection? Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:50, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
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Just letting you know that I've unblocked this user to allow renaming, with the unblock conditions that they make no edits, links or uploads relating to their company. All the best, Yunshui 雲水 10:09, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
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Deletion of article
Hello Orangemike! I noticed that you deleted Crystina Poncher as A7 and its talk page as A8 just a few days ago. I don't think you were aware, but it had already gone through AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crystina Poncher. I was involved in that AFD. It was closed as "no consensus" with two editors supporting keep.
I went ahead and restored the article and talk page because I think it was an oversight on your part. If you believe this was an error on my part, just let me know and we can go through it (I've been wrong before). But I wanted to make you aware of the action that I took. Let me know.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- It still read like press-agent fluff to me; but I defer to the judgement of the community as embodied in the AfD discussion. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:18, 2 June 2014 (UTC)--Orange Mike | Talk 04:18, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- It does need editing and cleanup, I agree there.--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Dear Orange Mike,
Hello, My name is Enkhzaya.B, Foreign affairs officer in Mongolian People’s Revolutionary Party. MPRP is the third biggest political party in a coalition government of Mongolia. Mr. Nambaryn Enkhbayar, third President of Mongolia has been elected as a Chairman of MPRP. Recently, I have received a warning that I was violating Wikipedia’s neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and personal analysis into articles at Nambaryn Enkhbayar. Thus, I couldn’t edit text or add information as I am aware of being blocked from editing. Therefore, I would like to kindly inform you that I am the original source on Nambaryn Enkhbayar, and some information on the wiki page are violating Mr. Enkhbayar by wrong information, which the sources are paid articles. As of the original source, I have a proof of Amnesty International which can disclaim wrong information on wiki page, and also Forbes article as well as International Independent lawyer’s assessment. /All proofs are enclosed. / Consequently, I’d be very appreciated if you can help to fix all the wrong information at Nambaryn Enkhbayar page and looking forward to hear from you.
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