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Swayamvaram new comments

There are new comments in the GA nomination page.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:25, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

There should not be anything in the lead that is not explained in the body. This post-Nehruvian thing or the existential question etc have not been mentioned in teh article otherwise. So, those needs to be explained in the article if we are to keep those nicely written sentences in the lead. Naturally, sources need to be mentioned, too.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

GA passed.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:33, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Mohan Joshi

Missing Gunda was not at all embarrassing. But missing NFA was. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 16:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Hardly anybody knows his award winning performance in Gharabaher but mostly all Mithun fans or crazy filmy buffs would know him as Pote from Gunda. Probably because of his introductory one liner..."Mera naam hain Pote! Jo apne baap ke bhi nahi hote!!" Wah! Wah!! - Vivvt • (Talk) 16:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Infinite Love

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Two (1964 film)

Hello! Your submission of Two (1964 film) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Presearch (talk) 02:29, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Sanjay Surkar

"with multiple superhits and also 4 times National Award winner", "अपनी मराठी फिल्मों के लिए चार बार राष्ट्रीय पुरस्कार से सम्मानित", "चारवेळा राष्ट्रीय पुरस्कार प्राप्त करणारे नागपूरचे भूषण". हे चार कोणते?!? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Should only be three. Raosaheb, Tu Tithe Mee and Gharabaher. The remaining one, Kalat Nakalat, should not be credited to him. - Vivvt • (Talk) 12:44, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh! Raosaheb it is. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:18, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

And Pune International Film Festival balanced the account by wrongly crediting it to Chaukat Raja. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:33, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Ray

I read it in a Bengali book or maybe newspaper (can not remember).
Short story: At almost the end of his film career a Satyajit Ray was asked

“ In your long film career you have got different types of reactions from different kind of audiences and critics. Which of these reactions have given you the deepest pleasure and influenced you the most? ”

After being asked the question Ray thought for a while and then replied in a low voice–

“ Children.. small children... the reactions of children after watching my films, those were spontaneous and real... ”

Note here, he did not mention about adult/matured people or intellectual critics. He mentioned "children's reaction". I find this highly melancholic. In his film career Satyajit Ray had been wounded by critics continuously and Ray reacted few times too. If you can read Bengali I can refer some articles. Ray, an internationally acclaimed film director, wounded all over his life.
Have you heard Satyajit Ray's English pronunciation? If not, you must, see this video. The first scene is taken from Pikoo (film), the article you are working on currently --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Which Bengali articles are you referring to, Tito?--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Ray wrote two books on making of his films, his opinions on films and one book on making of Pather (Apur) Panchali and one book on his childhood memories... I have these books (both digital and paper copy), there are few interviews too which I read.. I was referring to these! --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:04, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Follow up on Swayamvaram

You told you got a book on Swayamvaram. Do you plan to add stuffs from the book to the article? After that, you can submit the article to Guild of Copyeditors for a general copyedit.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

That book by Gathaman Bhaskaran is an excellent source. You should definitely add stuff from it. I did not go through the other article properly.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Two (1964 film)

Harrias ^talk 00:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For good work on several Satyajit Ray films. Dwaipayan (talk) 02:32, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

59th National Film Awards

I see the list has not received much attention since the last FLC. I can take a deeper look at it. However, the result could be drastic changes, especially in lead and other prose sections. I think the lead is difficult to read.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I think before another GoCE, I can try a little bit. Then GoCE would be good. I will try to have look at both content and prose; after that GoCE can focus on prose improvement. --Dwaipayan (talk) 05:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I told about drastic changes, but I guess if you look at the draft of the new article that I am suggesting, it might be shocking. I sincerely believe though that such massive trimming is the only way to salvage it. The shorter an article, the less is the chance for any errors.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, check out the other draft. There, Jury make a completely new section. I feel this draft looks more listy, than the usual one that reads more prosy and broken. We can debate on this :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

That was just an experiment to see how it feels like. Ok, in that case, we can stick to jury and award parts for each category, as usual.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

So, do we replace the list with this?--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok, now you can request someone for copyedit. However, I was wondering whether adding a paragraph in the lead regarding Indian cinema, its variety (so many languages) and vastness (number one in terms of volume) would increase engaging-ness of the lead.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

I think Smarojit would be a good editor to review the list first, if he can.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the message. I would love to help you out in whatever way I can. As per your suggestion, it would be better if you opened a peer review so that other editors can also help out. Will go through the article in some time, maybe later in the evening. Cheers. :) --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 04:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

ya, you can inform rambling man.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:35, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Bala (1976 film)

KTC (talk) 00:04, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

59th NFA peer review

Smarojit has left excellent suggestions there. I a leaving those works to you :) I will comment there if needed.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:05, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey. I will post a few more comments in a while. Sorry for the delay. --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 19:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Meenakshi Shirodkar

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Brahmachari (1938 film)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Kareena Kapoor

Hello Vivvt, I don't believe that we have met before. My name is Rahul (known as BOLLYWOOD DREAMZ on WP) and I see that you have worked on several Bollywood-related articles. Kareena Kapoor is currently nominated for FA and it would be great if you could take a look at the article and give comments at the FAC. Thanks :) -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 05:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Though I have not worked on any FAC earlier, I will put my comments if any. Article overall looks good. - Vivvt • (Talk) 15:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Pikoo (film)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Rabindranath Tagore (film)

Lord Roem ~ (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for The Inner Eye

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Kadal

Hi Vvivit, Appreciate your effort on Kadal/Kaladi Page.The post is from a veryreliable website for telugu movies.Kadal is released as kadali in telugu and this information is useful for telugu audience as it has all reviews in one place.Please re add the post. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavanteja324 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Ray filmography

Put it in peer review. Will discuss there. Plus others may opine also.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, you are busy! I will have a look later.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes I got it. I was just kidding :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Duh! of the day....

Did you know that the awards and nominations received by reggaeton rapper Ivy Queen include five for her song "Dime"? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:40, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox National Film Awards

Template:Infobox National Film Awards has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Reply

Hey, I don't know what else to say about it. The style of the article is quite different from what I am used to...I guess some comments from other editors would be really useful. :) --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 15:52, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

NFAs all again...

• Created some categories, the one i wanted to create long back. Its basically splitting the winner's category and adding film categories. (Two were already present.) Moving ahead; although the names are long, do you think these are okay?
  • Category:Films that won the Nargis Dutt Award for Best Feature Film on National Integration
  • Category:Films that won the Indira Gandhi Award for Best First Film of a Director
  • Category:Directors whose film won the Indira Gandhi Award for Best First Film of a Director
• Should these categories be renamed? Adding "Film" in it.
  • Category:Films featuring a Best Actor National Award winning performance‎ to Category:Films featuring a Best Actor National Film Award winning performance‎
  • Category:Films featuring a Best Actress National Award winning performance‎ to Category:Films featuring a Best Actress National Film Award winning performance‎
• Garam Hawa and Parinay have a † sign in front of them on the list Nargis Dutt Award for Best Feature Film on National Integration. Can't think of any reason for that. Why is it there? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:45, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Fixed for "National Integration". IMO, all these categories are just mess! Somebody creates something and then one fine day, bot comes and deletes everything and provides summary as some discussion somewhere. I personally have not created any categories by myself but then I donno what to say here. You may want to ask a "category expert" because they dont even like some of the names, so they end up deleting all. - Vivvt • (Talk) 14:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

These names are based on the similar tree of the Holy awards of Hollywood. So you need not worry of deletion. There will be enough people to oppose deletion. Also they have gone way too far creating categories for assistant directors and editors and such. We won't be doing that. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 03:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-10-08/news-interviews/30257690_1_modelling-auditions-mumbai

See the 1st line in this. My edit was not wrong. It was correct.She did engineering in London bt did nt work in Eng. field coz she found more interest in modelling.. Anyway I added it back :)

Thank you

for the kind words my friend! Much appreciated! :) -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 19:07, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Ha ha ha!

Was it fate or planned? Will they get back together or not? There are too many questions and very few answers. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:56, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Stay tuned! Btw, are you back to the same old stuff? - Vivvt • (Talk) 12:50, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Naah! Just wanted to read about the production of the show. It has Bhansali involved and i guess he would bring in many other big names too. But thats not worth writing here. You see, there are too many questions and very few answers. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Best supporting actors support like this. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Rakhumai of present day. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gulaab Gang

Hello! Your submission of Gulaab Gang at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:24, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Geet Ramayan

Why are you nominating it for GA? This is more of a list. Expand the songs and aim for FLC IMO. Some minor changes to explain jargon will be needed. After which, you can target a FAC. Will check after I get some time. Busy in a FAC. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:43, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Even I thought that its more of a list but then with the article expansion, text size was getting bigger and bigger. Also, list of songs has got summary section, which I am not sure if it falls under WP:OR or not. The article has already gone thru GoCE edits but still chances of getting it to FLC would be almost impossible with the amount of text article has. I checked some of the radio programme articles and they have invariably been divided into list and article, some of them are even GAs. Your experience would be really helpful for getting this article/list to a better state. Getting sources of this article is a bigger pain. Most of them are in Marathi and not online. - Vivvt • (Talk) 22:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

On Ray

Yes I saw it was in peer review. I think you should place it in flc ASAP if you wish to get it to featured status by the centenary date.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I saw the documentary partly. It's not a good one, no significant info, rather full of eulogies. While the production date was not mentioned, this particular telecast was in April 2007 ( deduced from the info bar moving at the bottom of the screen).--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:26, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

It's high time, IMO, that you archive the PR and nominate for FLC.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

But, did you work on, or reply to Crisco's comment on reference?--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, if you have precedence, then it should be ok.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I think you can add the alien bit. --Dwaipayan (talk) 23:44, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Gulaab Gang

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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Its fine now. Given my support. Good Job. - Vivvt • (Talk) 15:01, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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India national cricket team record by opponent

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Sure. Will take a look at it in a while. - Vivvt • (Talk) 12:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Mokashi

Started GA review of Paresh Mokashi.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I did not find anything extra-ordinary or debatable, and don't think I will have to refer to the Marathi sources for fact checking. A few spot checks for English sources would be enough.

I doubt if I will be able to dig out any resources for the Harischandra Bengali film on the internet in Bengali. Tito is better at search, he might be. I don't have any Bengali books either.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:56, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, why not? Once OTRS validates that, that can be used as a source hopefully?--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Satyavadi Raja Harishchandra:

The first para of setion under Plot has not been referenced. I have added a few more references but the plot needs referencing. Otherwise DYK will not go through. I am unable to find the reference for the text that you have added. Simliarly in the Bengali flim of the same name there is referencing to the plot. Please address these issues. No paragraph should be left unsourced for DYK.--Nvvchar. 04:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Plot should not have any reference. The film is source for itself per WP:PLOT. So we need to have it added for plot. Everything else should be referenced. - Vivvt (Talk) 04:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Lists at FLC

If you have time or interest, feel free to take a look at my two lists at FLC: List of awards and nominations received by Fiona Apple and List of songs recorded by Pink Martini. Thanks so much! --Another Believer _(Talk) 15:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Commented on one. Will do the rest later. - Vivvt (Talk) 13:43, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Please let me know if any of your concerns raised here still need to be addressed. --Another Believer _(Talk) 15:45, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. Sorry for the delay. - Vivvt (Talk) 16:03, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Congrats

Congrats for Ray filmography featured list status. Well done!--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Yup, you can go ahead with that 6 May request.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

	Indian Cinema Barnstar
	For getting S. Ray's filmography up to FL status! Well done!! May we see many more!! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Like -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:20, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

FB in WP. Nice and Thanks. - Vivvt (Talk) 23:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Congrats for the Ray FLC

And "same pinch", one of mine was in the same batch as yours. :)—indopug (talk) 18:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Congrats. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 02:10, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Charles O'Rear

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Martin Kenzie

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

triple crown

I, Casliber award Vivvt with this Triple Crown for exceptional content improvements to Wikipedia. Thank you for all you do. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Satyavadi Raja Harishchandra

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance

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Often regarded as one of the greatest directors of world cinema, Indian filmmaker Satyajit Ray's work in motion pictures is spanned over 40 years. Ray worked prominently in Bengali cinema and started his career as a junior visualizer. He made his directorial debut in 1955 with much acclaimed Pather Panchali. Ray's work got wide critical acclaim and his Apu Trilogy (1955–1959) appeared in Time's All-Time 100 Movies. Aside from directing, Ray composed music, wrote screenplays and also produced films. He was often credited as a fiction writer, illustrator, and calligrapher, and some of his short stories have been adapted into films by other directors. Ray received numerous awards throughout his career, including several Indian National Film Awards and an honorary Academy Award at the 64th Academy Awards in 1992. He was awarded with India's highest award in cinema, the Dadasaheb Phalke Award, in 1984 and India's highest civilian award, Bharat Ratna, in 1992.

DYK for Satyawadi Raja Harishchandra

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Maryan

Thank You so much :) for the support. Yes, its Maryan and not Mariyaan or Mariyan.

No problem. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey Thanks for the help. Yes, I unnecessarily wrote what the template says. Please do tell when can the section be transformed to complete page for the soundtrack.
Arjann (talk) 18:53, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Let the complete album get released. It will have lots of reviews as its a Rahman album. Then article can be forked for soundtrack. - Vivvt (Talk) 19:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Sunil Barve

Hi! A reviewer has commented on the DYK nomination. If you are willing to mend the article please go ahead. If not, withdraw the nomination. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Nomination Withdrawn. - Vivvt (Talk) 13:38, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for An Apology to Elephants

Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Manhunt: The Search for Bin Laden

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Rineloricaria lanceolata

Hello Vivvt. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rineloricaria lanceolata, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a test page. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 18:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Noted. My bad! - Vivvt (Talk) 18:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Copied

Nice template. Copied it. :) §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:37, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Since you are looking for work, you can try to take Swayamvaram further, towards FAC!--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

You have proposed that Gangadhar be deleted, but you have not stated a reason why. You have applied a "hoax" tag to the article, but did not explicitly call that out as the reason for deletion. For the record, I do not believe the article to be a hoax, simply poorly written (and possibly unverifiable). The Parashar name claims a significant place in Indian and Nepalese history, derived (or so it is claimed) from Parashara himself. This particular article attempt to document how that name migrated from India to Nepal, through the person of Gangadhar. This may or may not be significant, but I'm not sure that your proposed deletion is appropriate. I would leave the article tagged as unsourced, and in need of copy editing, but not necessarily move for deletion. You are free to take the matter to AFD if you feel it is necessary. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:29, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

FYI, please be more careful in your tagging

See diff. Theopolisme (talk) 17:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Dominic Smith (baseball)

Why thank you for giving me less than two minutes to make improvements.--Yankees10 16:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

And now it was deleted and re-created. Thanks.--Yankees10 17:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, he probably isn't/wasn't notable enough for an article anyway.--Yankees10 17:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

csd no contest

This can not be used if you can tell what the subject of the article is. Project Baikal is apparently a publication produced by an organization of architects & engineers in russia . I rather doubt notability , but that's not a question for speedy DGG ( talk ) 02:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Wassup

Are you patrolling or are you being patrolled? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Looks like latter is true with amount of notifications I have received so far! ;) - Vivvt (Talk) 13:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha! Stay safe. Or they might block you. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• I am sensing waaaaaaay too many kids around Wikipedia these days. Just praying that they should get their school/colleges started and then overloaded with homework and meaningless project activities. Then they can keep off Wikipedia. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• Yeah. Ask me! I saw your post at Tito's talk page and I believe its high time now to have an admin who knows and understands anything and everything about Indian articles than just rules. - Vivvt (Talk) 13:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• The lead says; "Sonarika Bhadoria (born between 1989-1994)". It is so very important to mention that she is born. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:43, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah...How would you know otherwise? Common sense is not common nowadays! - Vivvt (Talk) 13:50, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

And it is referenced as well. But by throwing a glance i couldn't figure out this math. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 03:44, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

• Is it just me who finds these names of subcategories funny? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

No. Its very informative indeed. I didn't know something like this did exist till now. - Vivvt (Talk) 12:10, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Duh! Its informative in the sense that you have to stop jumping in India or else you might die. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi a page Clonakylti I created was deleted (I understand why- I didn't know the rules at the time-and am not looking to get it back!!!) Is there any way that it can be completely deleted now? ie the page with the deletion notice as it still appears in google and can be seen by others. Thanks for your help JulieSmith123 (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

No. It cannot be deleted completely. The page with deletion notice is for future reference if anybody creates the article with same name again. But I can see another article Clonakilty. Did you want to create this one earlier? - Vivvt (Talk) 14:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for your help. No I didn't want to create Clonakilty- I just want to get rid of the one I did make as if I had known the rules I wouldn't have tried to make it! So all the deleted pages even when non-famous people write about themselves or pages with libelous titles stay on google and wiki with deletion notices too? No exceptions?? JulieSmith123 (talk) 14:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Not sure about Google but for Wiki there are no exceptions to the deletion notice. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks for your help anyway JulieSmith123 (talk) 15:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Brainy J. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Halo: Spartan Assault, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Brainy J (previously Atlantima) ~✿~ (talk) 13:59, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

The article looks good now. It was absolute hollow when created but now can stay. Thanks for the notification. - Vivvt (Talk) 14:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I clicked the unreview button by accident, and then after I realized my mistake I marked it reviewed again. -- Brainy J (previously Atlantima) ~✿~ (talk) 16:16, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Dil Se... Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Bbb23 (talk) 00:46, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Blocking me or the other user does not help as there is still no consensus for the edit war. Both of us will jump on it the moment unblocked. So this block does not serve the purpose. Also, please read the talk page discussion and several warnings given to the user for consensus. I am surprised that I am blocked for making several attempt for consensus. - Vivvt (Talk) 00:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

so let me see -- you're asking to be unblocked so you can go back to edit warring? I think you're missing the point of this block -- you're blocked to prevent you from doing exactly that. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 01:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

• Threatening (promising?) to resume the edit war when this block expires will only result in another block for a longer period.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I dont think you understand my concern here. In spite of blocking both of us, you should have helped us (and article) to reach consensus. Thats far more important here as of now. Am I threatening or promising? I dont think I am doing either. Knowing my history on wiki, I have not done that so far. - Vivvt (Talk) 01:21, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vivvt, IMO you should not have edit warred. Yesterday, I too had dispute with that user, but I did not choose to edit war although my case was much stronger and his was apparently trolling. You are much more experienced user, while s/he is possibly a new editor. The whole focus should have been on developing consensus. Since Isscsirsp do not listen to the other side at all and always press his own view, you could have just waited for other editors to get involved instead of repeatedly reverting his changes. But I hope your block get lifted.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:46, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vigyani. I understand what you are saying. He/she simply does not listen. We cannot have wrong information on wiki just because other editor does not listen. But anyway, admin choose to block me so I cannot do any further. Thanks for your concern about me. I appreciate. - Vivvt (Talk) 02:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

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Request reason:

I am neither threatening nor absolutely interested in unblocking myself if admins do not understand the whole crux here. Blocking both the editors is not the solution. Helping them get a consensus is. The other editor was warned, messaged several times. Again, I don't want to talk about him/her or justify myself. My only concern is to get the consensus based on the talk page discussion. If admin can help for that, its well and good. I am not begging for unblock. It would anyway go away in a day and considering my inactivity in last few days, it wouldn't matter to me as well. But the whole point is being missed by admins. Btw, see this and this as well before you take any decision. - Vivvt (Talk) 02:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I am going to unblock you, not based on the language of the request, but on what I believe to be an evolving understanding below on what you did wrong and your promise to stick to the article talk page. Bbb23 (talk) 20:57, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• I strongly second/support this unblock request (very rarely I go forward and make such request). He is a very reputed editor of Wikipedia, when Vivvt asked the other editor to see the film at YouTube and verify the spelling, he felt, that video might have been manipulated. Weird rationale. And Vivvt is blocked for edit warring with this editor? --Tito☸Dutta 08:03, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your words, Tito. I appreciate. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• Admins do not settle content disputes - that is a job for the editors in the dispute, and what you should do is discuss it on the article talk page and follow the consensus that develops between the editors who take part. Anyone who engages in edit warring instead of doing that is going to get blocked, even if they are right about the content, and it's no good trying to blame the blocking admin for not sorting out the content dispute for you. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:44, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• First of all, I am not blaming any of the admins for blocks. I am just surprised to see that all of them thought its the only solution to the problem. I am sure none of the admins involved above have read the talk page discussion and attempts for consensus. (Argh...I am tired of this word now!) As I said on the talk page, other editor is not ready to believe what video shows and providing n number of sources to prove it otherwise. There are two other editors besides me (Shakirfan and Writeecrit) and one IP user have supported my claim but other editor does not listen and keeps reverting everybody. And what admins expects us to do? Be gentle, nice, keep posting on talk page, giving warnings to other editors and just dont change the content to avoid edit warring and let them do whatever feel correct? I tried doing that several times and I dont think it helps. It just gets you blocked!! - Vivvt (Talk) 15:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• Actually, I did read the talk page and formed some tentative conclusions as to the merits of the dispute, but that's irrelevant, and I don't intend to share them with you. There are dispute resolution mechanisms for resolving the failure to achieve a consensus. Those are the mechanisms you must use in a content dispute, not fighting in the article. And I did consider one other alternative to blocking both of you, and that was to lock the article, but i generally don't like doing that if the edit war is principally between two editors as a lock unfairly impacts all editors for the "sins" of two.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• I am perfectly fine with not sharing your conclusion. But can you do a favor? I would appreciate if you can comment the disputed content till we reach "consensus". Let all involved editors decide and then put it in the article. If I do that once unblocked, I would be blamed for edit warring again. Rather, I tried doing it and got blocked for the same reason. - Vivvt (Talk) 16:00, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• What you can do when your block expires is return to the talk page and continue the discussion. You can even raise the idea of commenting or tagging the material, but I wouldn't do it yourself. My doing so would be the same as a content comment, and I don't intend to do either.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• That should be fine. Thanks for the suggestion. Will wait till the verdict of this unblock request or block expiration, whichever happens first. - Vivvt (Talk) 17:00, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• This really seems to have all been in good faith and I'm sure it won't be repeated - I'd support a quick unblock here, if we have the blocking admin's agreement? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:51, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Bbb23 and Boing! said Zebedee for the unblock. Thanks all for their support. I appreciate. - Vivvt (Talk) 21:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• So sorry to see you blocked and that too for such a stupid reason. But it was simply your bad luck. Had the issue been noticed by some admin who had knowledge of the subject i suppose he would have known whats wrong and whats not. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:07, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
  • • • • Exactly. --Tito☸Dutta 18:12, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
          • Freedom at midnight? --Tito☸Dutta 21:59, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thats apt for the timing. - Vivvt (Talk) 22:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• You may want to read Wikipedia:BOOMERANG--Isaacsirup (talk) 23:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
• What do you mean? --Tito☸Dutta 23:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

DarthDuncan

I've declined your speedy because the author added loads of text after you'd posted. I've prodded it as non-notable. It'll probably go to AfD in the end. Peridon (talk) 16:24, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok. No problem. Thanks for the notification. - Vivvt (Talk) 16:27, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Guess what? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DarthDuncan. Peridon (talk) 17:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

It went too fast than expected. :) - Vivvt (Talk) 19:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Hi. I realise that you have interacted with User: Isaacsirup in the past. Could I please ask you to take a look here:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Problematic behavior by user Smarojit? Thank you. :-) --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 06:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Replied. It does not make more sense to spend anytime on him/her. - Vivvt (Talk) 16:28, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Raanjhanaa

Thank you Vivvt for appealing page protection of Raanjhanaa article. I did the same last morning, don't know where it went or like I forgot to press save button. Arjann (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

The page protection is declined saying "The anonymous IP edits so far appear to be constructive." Will have to wait till somebody vandalizes it. Thats the way wiki works I believe. - Vivvt (Talk) 19:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Moskovsky Korrespondent

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:05, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi!

I think, we haven't talked much here. Well, are you interested in expanding some old film articles like the 90s blockbuster as I'm aiming to do so.—Prashant 02:53, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Which one? - Vivvt (Talk) 02:55, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Chandni or maybe lamhe.—Prashant 03:01, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Sadly, I haven't see any of these two. - Vivvt (Talk) 03:04, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I was knowing this, it seems you have no time for movies but for eyeing others contributions. No?and disturb others.—Prashant 03:09, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

May I know whose contributions am I eyeing (as I myself do no know this) and who is getting disturbed? Enlighten me with your knowledge so that I know something which is better than nothing. - Vivvt (Talk) 03:13, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I said that in humorous tone. Not seriously. So relax. So, some other films such as pyaasa or maybe.....some Bollywood classics. What's say? If you are interested in Bollywood article then.—Prashant 16:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Pyaasa and Kaagaz Ke Phool are definitely good movies for the expansion but finding sources for them would be a task. I don't work on Bollywood movies mostly and haven't worked on any of them yet because there are lot of ppl who are working on them and does not need my attention. I work on the articles which are notable but not known.

Btw, I don't think you said it in humorous way because I saw one of your reverts of my edits also mentioned the same thing! Is it a coincidence? - Vivvt (Talk) 01:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

FYI, I removed those comments as there is no GAR. That's why. It is a GA review page and I don't think off topic discussion is needed.—Prashant 02:52, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

You aint supposed to change anybody's comments irrespective of what you think is correct. If somebody's talking about Baba Ramdev's eye flickering on Angelina Jolie's page; let it be that way. - Vivvt (Talk) 02:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay..i got it. I'll take care from now. Meanwhile, could you tell about writing DYK. As, I want to contribute as well. I'm confused about. Expanding or new article. 5 days old? I don't understand. If you could tell me in details.—Prashant 03:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

For DYKs, your frequent collaborator Dr Blofeld is the man. He has created more than 1300 DYKs I believe. If I were you, I would certainly ask him first than anybody else. - Vivvt (Talk) 03:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

I know that. He told me certain things. But, I want to know that is it necessary that the article should be expanded within 5 days? For example: I expanded Kaminey, Fashion and Aitraaz. They have crossed 5 day limit. So, are they eligible for DYK?—Prashant 03:24, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

The article should be expanded 5 times (if an unsourced WP:BLP, then newly sourced and 2 times) and should be nominated within 5 days. None of the articles mentioned above are eligible as of now. - Vivvt (Talk) 03:29, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I think I'll take care of the other article, I pick. Would you please tell me any tool to calculate prose size? —Prashant 03:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Check this. - Vivvt (Talk) 03:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Reviewer

Hello, following a review of your contributions, I have enabled reviewer rights on your account. This gives you the ability to:

• Accept changes on pages undergoing pending changes,
• Have your changes automatically accepted on pending changes level 2 protected pages, and
• Administrate article feedback.

Please remember that this user right:

• Can be removed at any time for misuse, and
• Does not grant you any special status above other editors.

You should probably also read WP:PROTECT, since this user privilege deals largely with page protection. As the requirements for this privilege are still in a state of flux, I would encourage you to keep up to date on the WP:REVIEWER page. Feel free to ask me if you have any questions! Happy editing! Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

Hi Vivvt. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! INeverCry 01:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

hurray, you can roll back now :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:05, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. Nowadays most of the edits are undoing the changes. So thought of having this right. Btw, are you back from the wikibreak? - Vivvt (Talk) 02:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm back from the vacation, which was the major brak. Even then, I have to be much less active here due to work pressure.--Dwaipayan (talk) 22:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Peer review

Are u interested in taking part in the peer review of Chandralekha (1948 film)? It would be very useful if u agree. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Let me see what I can do from my side. - Vivvt (Talk) 13:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Pls check for other improvements needed for the article, or pls suggest them to me. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Marathi literature

Hi! I came across this link www.Khapre.org which has full texts of many Marathi books, ranging from songs, bhajans, poems, aartis, lokgeete, plays and many more. Could be useful sometime. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:25, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Wanna help...

... in writing Jaymala Shiledar? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:03, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Well...Yes but I dont know much about her anyways. Just got to know about her recent demise when I clicked your sandbox link. Let me know if I can be of any help.

• Btw, if you have any inclination on working on Hindustani classical music singers like Shobha Gurtu, Bhimsen Joshi, Kishori Amonkar, Shruti Sadolikar, Arati Ankalikar-Tikekar, let me know. - Vivvt (Talk) 13:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay! No problem. I can try these ones also. I don't know much about Sadolikar.
Forget classic... How about the item song? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

No. Absolute NO. I would like to explore Indian classical music. I dont know why are you even asking me for an item song? :P - Vivvt (Talk) 01:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps because many years down the line the remix version of that song would achieve a cult status, thanks to one Ms Sawant?--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:06, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Vivvt, stay with the trend. This has a chance of FA, not Ankalikar-Tikekar. And is there a Ms Sawant version also of Chadti Jawani Meri Chaal Mastani? I know only of the Khan-Kothari-Unknown version. Others that i know, one made by DJ Aqeel, are only audios. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

You guys made me watch the video this morning. What a start of the day, I must say! I don't know about the third model in the video but its not Ms Sawant for sure. She was in "Pardesia". - Vivvt (Talk) 13:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Well hello Mr. Vivvt! We didn't made you watch it. You yourself chose to watch it. I, chose to watch the flag hoisting of Lal Qila in morning. (I had watched this song plenty times the night before.) I will take you to WP:ANI for this. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Damn, right... my failing memory... Sawant was in Pardesia. Apologies for the mistake.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Pather Panchali

Yes, FAC is the wish. It will take some time. The article is in good shape. Any help will be great!--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, right now, we have to build the Themes section. There are many resources available, but not everything is online. I will slowly try to evolve that section. Meanwhile, you can freely edit in any sections. Add stuffs if you think needed. I think, since we are starting out, there is no problem adding lots of stuff. Of course, those will need to be properly summarized later.

I have not recently read the article. You can go ahead, read, and see if you think something is missing. Whatever you think is needed, just do it. I will follow up.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:01, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

If any of u r working on Pather Panchali, here are two improvement suggestions by me: a poster is better in the infobox instead of a title card, and there are a few dead links which need to be replaced. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. We will check on that. - Vivvt (Talk) 11:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Interested?

Since ur status reads "This user is bored (and thus inactive) and looking for something interesting to work on", I was wondering if u were interested in this: the peer review for Chandralekha (1948 film) will be closed soon, and if u could suggest me improvements, that would be helpful. PS, u don't have to edit. Just review it. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:07, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I will take a look at it in a while. I see that quoted material issue I raised earlier is still not resolved. - Vivvt (Talk) 11:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Jibber jabber

Ama Miyyan! Ye nagina kab aake chala gaya samjha bhi nahi. Gazab ke gaane hai.... sune kabhi to sunte rah jaaoge. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:53, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ashok Patki

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Pather Panchali peer review

Hi! If you have time, could you please have a look into this? Your comments will be highly appreciated in this peer review. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:39, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I always wanted to work on this article but never got a chance due to recent workload. But its good that you are taking it ahead. I will definitely provide some inputs from my side. All the best. - Vivvt (Talk) 00:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)