Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pakistan/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Notice to participants at this page about adminship

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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Tandoori chicken, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:19, 13 March 2017 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Operation Zarb-e-Azb

Operation Zarb-e-Azb, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 04:59, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 at Women in Red including Pakistan

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Discussion about renaming for articles on Zil-e-Huma, Zil-e-Huma and Zill-e-Huma

Thoughts and suggestions welcomed.

Please see Talk:Zil-e-Huma_(disambiguation).

Thank you. --joe decker^talk 19:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

ask for approval

Hi, I wonder if this project wants to add WikiProject Pakistan template to redirects based on what articles that in Category:All WikiProject Pakistan articles for example (the example for WikiProject Medicine).--جار الله (talk) 15:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

@جار الله: yes, we'd like to have.  samee  converse  19:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Urdu Wiki

I think we should also develop the Urdu Wiki. Any thoughts? Masterpha (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Pashto names of colleges

User:PakGov recently changed the Pashto names of various colleges, for example Jinnah Medical College and Khyber Girls Medical College. I reverted them here because I'm pretty sure that there's a difference in Pashto between Khyber Medical College and Khyber Medical University, but I couldn't verify the Pashto names of the other colleges I checked. One option would be to simply remove the Pashto names altogether unless there's a reliable source. Thoughts? Huon (talk) 23:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

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Content discussion / BLP issue that someone here may take an interest in

This discussion will be difficult to fully resolve without the help of a native speaker, and so I'm hoping that bringing it to attention here will be a good way to get some help.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:31, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Saraiki castes

Hi, can anyone take a look at Saraiki Castes, created yesterday by a new editor and possibly based entirely on OR – and decide what to do with it? Thanks, — kashmīrī ^TALK 23:09, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Candidates order for upcoming election

The project members opinion is requested at Talk:NA-1 (Chitral)#Candidate order regarding how to order the candidates for 2018 election based on previous party performance or previous individual candidate performance in case of changing party affiliation. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:39, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Indian Slavery Act, 1843, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Balochistan National Party

Several articles have wikilinks to the disambiguation page Balochistan National Party. The WikiProject Disambiguation team tries to fix these links by retargetting them to the correct article, but in this case the two parties look similar to the non-expert and we're having difficulty working out which link should lead to which article. Please can you help? Thanks, Certes (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

"Serial" in the context of Pakistani television

Is anyone here familiar with Pakistani television and can explain to me what "serial" or "drama serial" means in the Pakistani television context? From reading various sources I'm left confused, as some make it seem as they are either drama TV series, telenovela series or a limited 1-season series. Pakistani dramas doesn't help nor does Miniseries. Just to give some background - in the UK, "serial" means a short (6 or so episode) series, similar to the US "miniseries". The Hum Awards which give a Hum Award for Best Drama Serial says in the lead Best Drama Serial is considered the most important of the Hum Awards, as it represents all the directing, acting, music, writing, and other efforts put forth into a drama. They also have awards for sitcom, soap and telefilm, which either means Hun have no "regular" non-sitcom TV series on their network, or that "serial" in Pakistani television means "TV series" in western television. Thanks in advance. --Gonnym (talk) 09:35, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Page creations by User:Verifications

Verifications has been blocked for WP:SOCK and WP:EVADE per User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad#Possible block evasion. Before being blocked, the account was used to create a number of articles/drafts related to Pakastani films/actors such as Licence (1976 film), Lalay Di Jan, Majhu, Gujjar Badshah, Draft:Naghma, Draft:License (1976 film), etc. These probably can be deleted per WP:G5 unless anyone thinks there's anything worth keeping and which might be further developed as an article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:25, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

AfD notification

An AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Universal Insurance company Limited (2nd nomination) may be of interest to participants in this project. This is supposedly a decent-sized Pakistani company, but the very vague name and bad sourcing makes it impossible for me to be certain of anything. Can an editor with more local knowledge comment? power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:34, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Page move proposal

It has been proposed that Greco-Buddhist art should be renamed and moved to Gandhara art. See Talk:Greco-Buddhist art#Requested move 4 October 2018. Capitals00 (talk) 07:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Nizamani

If anyone fancies weighing in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nizamani (2nd nomination) then it might be helpful. It suffered from low participation when someone else nominated it some time ago, and the same seems to be happening now that I have nominated it. I've got the feeling that this project is not terribly active but hopefully someone will see this. - Sitush (talk) 03:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Kashmir Day - India's request denied to cancel Kashmir Solidarity Day by British Parliament - Section Reverted

I am new to Wikipedia and require guidance from this group.

I have recently added a section on India's request being denied by British parliament to cancel Kashmir Day event. This section has been reverted by user which i presume is biased towards this subject. Please advise on how to solve this issue.

1. Talk:Kashmir Solidarity Day#Kashmir Solidarity Day - India's request to cancel event in British Parliament denied. Credauth (talk) 12:13, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Rename category: Category:Dog breeds originating in India

Shouldn't this be Category:Dog Breeds originating in India and Pakistan? I proposed it here. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

See the related discussions here and here 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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Discussion of Pakistani and Indian sources on the reliable sources noticeboard

There is a discussion on the reliability of Pakistani and Indian sources on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § India/Pakistan — Newslinger talk 07:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Balakot

There is currently discussion at Talk:Balakot about how much of the article should be devoted to the 2019 Balakot airstrike, as well as the competing Indian and Pakistani claims. See Talk:Balakot/Archive 1#UNDUE and sections below it.Bless sins (talk) 02:52, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Shahi Tukda

Shahi Tukda is a dessert consits of bread,milk and pistas.It is dish oriented in Pakistan and also famous through cities like Karachi,Islamabad,Lahore and Peshawar and also popular across the muslim of Asian countries, Basically it's has mughalai roots. Shahi Tukda is made by frying bread dip into eggs and serve with warm milk and pistas.

Shahi Tukda is a most popular dessert of Pakistan. Espacially made on Religional ocassions like Ramadan and Eid. Shahi Tukda have it's melt in mouth texture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ubaid Hashim (talk • contribs) 09:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

GAR notice

CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Cleanup required

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Islam#Cleanup_of_Islamic_article. AttaEditsWiki (talk) 22:27, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder‎

CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) was recently fully protected because of POV pushing an edit warring. The fight continues in the form of edit requests on the talk page. I am completely ignorant about anything having to do with the military of Pakistan and India other than hoping that they don't nuke each other, so I would really appreciate it if someone else would look at the page and evaluate the edit requests. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 15:08, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Sarwan Ali Palijo

Has anyone from this WikiProject ever heard of this actor? Any reason to believe he meets WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG? The article appears to have been created by a new editor or at least someone not very familiar with Wikipedia and it wasn't submitted for review via WP:AFC. It's unsourced so I was going to prod it for deletion, but I'd figured I'd ask about it here first. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:00, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

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How to insert official portrait of President of Pakistan

I've been repeatedly trying to upload the official portrait of the President of Pakistan [1] it keeps getting deleted for absence of copyright information - please guide what can I do to help improve the situation - it is available on the official President of Pakistan website [2] link to the portrait [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drawab (talk • contribs) 11:51, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Drawab: The copyright information is given under XXXIV/2000 Section 22(1).

Copyright in a Government work shall, where Government is the first owner of the copyright therein, subsist until 50 years from the beginning of the calendar year next following the year in which the work is first published.

 samee  converse  11:41, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

@Samee: thank you for the update - but how can we use the official portrait of the president on the page? how can we work to allow the usage of this image in the Wikipedia article - any release documentation that can be fulfilled by the Presidency to allow its usage -- Dr. Awab Alvi (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

@Drawab: The image you want to use requires source to release under a Creative Commons license such as CC-BY-SA 4.0.  samee  converse  12:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Organisation/organization RfC

There is an RfC on whether all Wikipedia categories should use the spelling "organization" (regardless of the respective country) taking place here. Number 57 19:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Khyber Pakhtunkhwa for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Sindh for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Pakistan Super League for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Urdu for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Balochistan, Pakistan for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Balochistan, Pakistan is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Kashmir discussion

Please comment and give opinion regarding upcoming big change at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Kashmir pages.-Nizil (talk) 15:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Another Kashmir related dicussion

Please see the discussion at the India wikiproject noticeboard aiming to craft standardised neutral ledes for some top-level Kashmir-related article. Abecedare (talk) 18:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Pakistan

Proposal to delete all portals

The discussion is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal to delete Portal space. Voceditenore (talk) 07:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer

Many new pages are being created around Pakistani topics. Members of this project with experience around notability, deletion, and nurturing new users are encouraged to consider applying for New Page Reviewer. The New Page Patrol community is a friendly one and we're always looking for more talented editors. If you are interested but think you might not be ready consider enrolling in New Page Patrol School. If you have any questions, I serve as coordinator and would be happy to answer them - please ping me here or drop by my talk page. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

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Miscellany for deletion/Pakistan-related WikiProjects

Ajpolino has nominated several taskforces of WikiProject Pakistan for deletion as having been created by a sock. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Pakistan-related WikiProjects. --Nessie (talk) 19:56, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Umrao Bundu Khan

Comments whatever they may be are welcome here. Any Urdu speaking wikipedians who have time searching for RS would be appreciated. Thanks.4meter4 (talk) 01:39, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Comment I am puzzled by these questions:

• Why can't the above subject article be allowed more than a week's time after being tagged on top asking for more reliable sources? One week's time is not enough for people to spot it and then improve the article before it ends up on AfD. This article was created by someone on 4 November 2019, tagged on top on 5 November 2019 and ended up on AfD on 13 November 2019. I welcome any comment to help understand this situation. Thanks Ngrewal1 (talk) 14:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Spliting discussion for Blasphemy in Pakistan

An article that you have been involved with ( Blasphemy in Pakistan ) has content that is proposed to be removed and move to another article ( List of blasphemy cases in Pakistan ). If you are interested, please visit the discussion at talk:Blasphemy in Pakistan . Thank you. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 05:32, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Goth Lashkari for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Goth Lashkari is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goth Lashkari until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Theprussian (talk) 23:09, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Does Sheikhupura Division exist?

According to the Wikipedia article, Sheikhupura Division comprises Sheikhupura and Nankana Sahib districts (formerly of Lahore division). However, I'm finding trouble locating solid evidence for this division's existence. For example, the 2017 census makes no mention of it and it still lists the two districts as part of Lahore Division [4]. And the wikipedia article's sourcing looks iffy: of the four references, only one (a 2009 blog post) mentions the division at all, and only as a proposal. – Uanfala (talk) 02:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Khestwol, do you have any idea what's going on here? – Uanfala (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

SheriffIsInTown? – Uanfala (talk) 00:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Uanfala: The article might have been created as a result of this mis-reporting by a news organization. Here is a source published just last year which mentions Sheikhupura District as part of Lahore Division. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 02:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh, good, thanks! Do you think the article should be nominated for deletion? – Uanfala (talk) 04:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Please help!

There is an article titled, Forced conversion to Islam in Pakistan. I want to now create an article to show that not all conversions are "forced". I made and submitted a draft - Draft:Religious conversions in Pakistan but it was not, "up to the mark". Please improve that draft so that it becomes good enough to be published. Thanks!—Spasiba5 (talk) 23:33, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Page move involving Hindustani and Hindustani language

A page move involving Hindustani and Hindustani language has been in the works since 16 January 2020 unbeknownst to this project as far as I can tell. See Talk:Hindustani#Requested_move_16_January_2020. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Pinging @Saqib: who overseas this project, I think. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

No I don't. --Saqib (talk) 07:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba

I fell across Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba purely by accident; it was listed in Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts. I fixed that problem and some formatting errors, and tagged it as {{unreferenced}}, {{notability}} and {{pov}}. I then did some searching. I was surprised to find when I returned to the page only ten minutes later, that it had been pretty much blanked and the maintenance tags removed. I've added a sentence backed up by four WP:RS citations, which IMO solve all three maintenance problems. I have no interest in this topic; but members of this WikiProject may care to expand the article and/or watchlist it. Having regard to the state of the article as I found it and as I left it, it seems possible that my edit might soon be removed. Narky Blert (talk) 22:53, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week

Hello there. This is an invitation to join the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week. £250 (c. $310) is being given away in May, June and July with £20 worth of prizes to give away every week for most articles destubbed. Each week there is a different region of focus, including one week dedicated to South-South East Asia, which includes Pakistan, though half the prize will still be rewarded for articles on any subject. There's a potential £120 to be won in total for destubbing on any subject or region of your choice. Sign up if you want to contribute at least one of the weeks or support the idea! † Encyclopædius 11:47, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Requesting opinion on a page move request.

Hello,

@ Talk:Aurat (disambiguation)#Requested_move_11_May_2020 is taking place about article relating to women of mainly of Asian origin. In Past 2 days only two opinions are received and more opinions will be preferable. Thanks for your opinion and participation in discussion.

Bookku (talk) 11:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Search for sourcing?

Hi! I was wondering if anyone could look to see if there are any sources for Saira Sheikh, a Pakistani artist and educator. The sourcing in English is somewhat limited so I didn't know if there would be anything in any of the other languages commonly used in Pakistan. I was cleaning up after one of my students and it seems like there should be more sourcing out there. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Muhammad Ajmal Raza Qadri

Needs copy-editing of this article in a neutral toneFaster than fairies (talk) 21:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aurat (word)

The terms "Aurat", "Arvad", "Avret", and "Awrath" may refer to: Women of Asian religious or cultural descent and identity.

Self nomination for AFD since article copy pasted to Draft:Aurat for incubation because IMHO current article title Aurat (word) is misleading and confusing leading to western systemic bias and stifling the article growth. Please find Detail reason at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aurat (word)

I invite project members to review current and potential sourcing and weigh in on the AfD discussion. Thanks! Bookku (talk) 03:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:UKWNB#Pakistan–United Kingdom relations

 You are invited to join the discussion at WT:UKWNB#Pakistan–United Kingdom relations. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Munir Ahmad Khan

Hello there,

Is there any rule or standard practice regarding which English language variation template to use on Bio pages like Munir Ahmad Khan? It seems to have been tagged as 'Use British English' since October 2012. Recently an editor, without justifying or discussing the change, has changed it to 'Use American English'. When reverted back, they change it back again. Comments or advice please? Regards, 220 of ^ßorg 17:08, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi 220 of Borg. Please take a look at MOS:ENGVAR and MOS:TIES for reference. There's no one particular English variant that all articles have to use. Generally, editors are asked to defer to the variant originally used by the first main contributor to the article unless there's a really good reason (usually determined through WP:CONSENSUS) to change to another variant. Perhaps the best thing to do here would be to post a friendly message on the other editor's user talk page inviting them to discuss there reasons for changing to American English on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Marchjuly I haven't had much to do with these language issues before, but was aware of ENGVAR and TIES. The editor in question is mostly 'mute", incommunicative, and rarely users an edit summary, even when making very large edits. I have left lots of template notices/ warnings, friendly, and terse, personal messages and suggestions, as long ago as 2015. They do take notice of in text {{clarify}}, and similar, tags though.

'Khan's' page has been at 'British English' since late 2012, I don't think it was tagged before then. I think British could be expected due to the historical connections, and I restored that to the page before enquiring here.

They've made a few edits 'overnight', here. They have a peculiar habit of WP:Piping every single wiki-link, like [[Rock|rock]] similar to here, [[Laser science|laser science]], etc. which seems to serve no purpose, and just clutters up the page possibly making editing a bit harder. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Regards, 220 of ^ßorg 04:18, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Request for an article on the scandal on fake pilots' licences

It's being alleged that a significant percentage of Pakistani airline pilots obtained their licences fraudulently:

• "Pakistani pilots grounded over 'fake licences'". BBC News. 25 June 2020. Archived from the original on 27 June 2020.
• "Almost a third of Pakistani pilots have fake licences, aviation minister says". Times of Malta. AFP. 26 June 2020. Archived from the original on 27 June 2020.

This should be mentioned in the Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303 article, and I think it also merits its own article. Would any editors interested in writing this article please? I am also making this request at WikiProject Aviation. --Xwejnusgozo (talk) 08:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Milan (Pakistani TV series)

The article Milan (Pakistani TV series) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 22#Adhura Milan revealed that this article is likely to contain incorrect information. The article has no citation to independent sources and currently doesn't provide an Urdu title, making it difficult to verify the article content. Recommend deletion per WP:N and WP:TNT.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Deryck C. 22:30, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Independence Day article

It would be helpful if someone could keep an eye on Independence Day (Pakistan) for the next couple of days, as it is attracting some unhelpful drive-bys. I also added a maintenance tag at Independence Day (Pakistan)#The date of independence, requesting a better source for transcription of Jinnah's radio address (like a newspaper). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:26, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM: Watching it now. Good call with the source request, I'll clean it up in the next few days if no one else gets to it. Aza24 (talk) 02:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Duthro Sharif

During my patrol, I came across this article. Anyone with knowledge of the subject may expand it. Cheers Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 13:11, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Nursing in Pakistan

This could use a lot of work. Please help fix it. Bearian (talk) 00:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

GA review

Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Bangladesh Liberation War

There is an RfC to determine the result in the infobox. Currently, the discussion is only dominated by Bangladeshi and Indian editors. We need some Pakistani participation too. Please join in. Za-ari-masen (talk) 09:32, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Iftikhar Hussain Khan Mamdot § Inline sources...

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Iftikhar Hussain Khan Mamdot § Inline sources.... Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:21, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Asian art, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:06, 14 September 2020 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Women in Red Asian women contest

From 1 October to 31 December, Women in Red is running a virtual contest on Asian women. In November, this will coincide with Wikipedia Asian Month. We look forward to strong participation from all those interested in improving coverage of Pakistani women.--Ipigott (talk) 16:12, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Indian subcontinent

A complex RfC is going on, after a long bout of edit war. Uninvolved editors needed at the discussion. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 06:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Punjab parameter

Uanfala (talk · contribs) would like to know why I removed the |Punjab= parameter from {{WikiProject Pakistan}} - but I didn't, it was removed by UnitedStatesian (talk · contribs) with this edit at 04:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC). Apparently I should now seek retrospective permission on this page. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the question; it was because Wikipedia:WikiProject Punjab has created their own separate banner template, at {{WikiProject Punjab}}. All articles within the scope of that project should have that template added, rather using a subproject parameter of {{WikiProject Pakistan}}. Any other questions, please let me know. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Just noting that Wikipedia:WikiProject Punjab, if it still is any active, covers both Indian and Pakistani Punjab. Anyway, this was brought up here because I objected to the removal of |Punjab= from instances of this projects' banner on article talk pages. This appears to be a result of last year's deletion of the project pages for Punjab and the KPK task forces (observing that Wikipedia:WikiProject Sindh and Wikipedia:WikiProject Balochistan, Pakistan remain). I don't think these two subprojects are necessarily any more active than the ones that got deleted. The crux is whether we would like to have task forces for each province or not. If yes, then the existing tags for Punjab and KPK that are in places on article talk pages should be left alone. If, on the other hand, it's decided that we will never need such task forces, then it makes sense to remove these tags, likely along with the ones for Sindh and Balochistan. – Uanfala (talk) 15:51, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Category:PWFP has been nominated for discussion

Category:PWFP has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.

-- 67.70.32.97 (talk) 04:13, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments requested about 2 source(s)

Hello! Editors are requested to kindly share their views at Talk:Rajput#About the sources in section — Rajput lifestyle. There have been some editing to article Rajput and I have opened a section at its talk page regarding the sources added. One source is a retired Indian defense personnel and a search at the google scholar for citation index of the second source is not showing any number/hits.

Editors are also requested to kindly read Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Books by serving/retired Indian and Pakistani defense personnel on castes as it concerns the first source in question. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 07:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Bhutto family

Can someone please edit "Bhuttos originally migrated to Rajput family, Bhutto was 712AD invite in Sindh belong to Muslims Rajput family, during Mughal emperor Aurangzeb's reign." to make sense? Also a reference would be nice, for this & other stuff in the article. Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 12:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

WikiGap in Pakistan

Swedish mission in Islamabad is planning to organize online WikiGap editathon soon and is actively looking for proficient editors from Pakistan who can assist them during the course of event. If anyone is interested, please let me know so that I can connect you with them. Regards, --Saqib (talk) 17:12, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mar4d: Are you interested or maybe recommend some editors? --Saqib (talk) 17:15, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

@Saqib: Sure, can we get some details regarding the edit-a-thon? Mar4d (talk) 17:20, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Check e-mail please. --Saqib (talk) 17:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Update to peer review page

Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.

The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process (WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.

The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.

I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.

Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) (talk) 00:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Gilgit-Baltistan

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Gilgit-Baltistan. Soumya-8974 (he) ^talk _contribs ^subpages 18:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Discussion about article "Kashmir"

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Kashmir#Infobox Kashmir territory, which is about an article that is within the scope of this WikiProject. Soumya-8974 (he) ^talk _contribs ^subpages 13:06, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Khes

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Talk:Khes. This article and its primary author could use some help. The topic appears at least marginally encyclopedic, but the main editor (not a native English speaker) seems to have trouble understanding the core content policies, parsing the exact meaning of the sources and citing them accurately (may have even contradicted them in a few places). As I've suggested on the talk page, there are probably non-English sources that are good for this (perhaps already listed in non-English articles at South Asian-languages Wikipedias that haven't been linked to this article yet). I already did a cleanup pass on the page, last night, to make it more comprehensible, but there are sourcing issues I can't really deal with. I'll notify WT:INDIA, too, since this topic is kind of a pan-Punjab thing.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk consolidation

It's confusing that WP:PAK goes to the wikiproject but WT:PAK goes to Wikipedia talk:Notice board for Pakistan-related topics instead of this page. Why are these pages even separate? WP:INDIA has merged theirs, and this is probably more productive. That is, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India redirects to Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. If WP:PAK doesn't do likewise, people are either going to leave notices in one place and miss attention from people who mostly read the other, or will leave duplicate notices (as I did above, about Khes) which will reach all the relevant parties but probably be seen twice by several of them.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Indian subcontinent

There is a discussion on the talk page about a disputed sentence. Is it possible for members of this project to make a comment there? Aditya^{(✉ • ⚒)} 03:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Nach ke yar manana

I heard there was a film with that title, by Masood Batt. Not sure where info about it is, as I tried to look for it, but info seems to have been scarce WhisperToMe (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics § Settlement type

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics § Settlement type. Soumya-8974 (he) ^talk _contribs ^subpages 17:43, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Shabnam Majeed

Hi all! Is there anyone with good knowledge of Urdu and English that would be able to help with this article? I've tried my best to save this article from deletion. There are some English sources but it's heavily weighted towards recent events. Is she notable? Are there good sources in other languages that could be used for notability? Please help if you can. Spiderone 15:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Ghizer

Hi. The 2019 splitting of Ghizer District (1974–2019) into Ghizer District (2019–) and Gupis-Yasin District has created a bit of a mess on Wikipedia. First of all, there's a few links to Ghizer District (now a disambiguation page) referring to locations of which I'm not sure whether they're now in Ghizer (2019-) or Gupis-Yasin. Also, lots of pages link to Ghizer, which is currently a redirect to Ghizer District (1974–2019). Should Ghizer be retargeted to Ghizer District, or should it be made into a separate disambiguation page? Some pages that link to it seem to refer to the "Ghizer Valley", and I'm not sure if this valley is just the area that rougly corresponds to the old Ghizer district, or something different. And in any case, the links to that page should be fixed, as well. I hope that someone who knows a little more about the region than I do (which is absolutely nothing) can help with this! Lennart97 (talk) 22:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lennart97: This is a bit of a mess isn't it. From my understanding, I think the Ghizer Valley is this and the surrounding area which comes under Gupis-Yasin. As for the redirects, can you link which pages you are talking about that link to Ghizer. However I'm not entirely sure myself, so take what i say with a pinch of salt. CreativeNorth (talk) 16:25, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@CreativeNorth: Thanks for your reply. The pages that link to Ghizer are listed here. Lennart97 (talk) 16:32, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lennart97: I think I've fixed fifteen of them can you check this one though. Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 17:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@CreativeNorth: Thanks a lot! Khalti Lake, based simply on its location on the map, just south of the town of Yasin, is definitely in Gupis-Yasin District, which also means it cannot be in Punial. I've changed that in the article. Would you mind taking a look at the remaining links to Ghizer District as well? Also, do you agree that Ghizer should be turned into a disambiguation page containing both Ghizer districts, the Ghizer/Gilgit river and the Golaghmuli Valley/Koh-i-Ghizer? Lennart97 (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lennart97: I’ve linked three of them but the disambiguation page links to another disambiguation page so I’m not sure what to do about that. Yes I do agree that Ghizer should be turned into a page that has links to both districts. Don’t forget Ghizer Tehsil though. Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 18:37, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@CreativeNorth: The link from Ghizer District (disambiguation) is intentional and I've resolved the remaining ones on List of hydroelectric power stations in Pakistan; with that, all links are resolved. I've turned Ghizer into a disambigation page as discussed, you can check whether it's complete and improve if necessary. Thank you very much for helping to fix this mess! Lennart97 (talk) 20:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Steel Bar Manufacturers in Pakistan.

Hey!

This is Shan Saleem for Karachi, Pakistan.

I have just read the article in which some of the Steel Bar Manufacturers of Pakistan are listed.

I would like to notify you that one major steel industry of Karachi namely "Faizan Steel" is missing in that list. as "Faizan Steel" is one of the fastest-growing deformed steel bar manufacturer in Karachi, Pakistan. I would like to that industry in the given list.

Kindly let me know how can we proceed to add "Faizan Steel" in that listing.

Leaving some details of the industry below.

https://faizansteel.com/ B-37 & B-69 S.I.T.E. Karachi, Pakistan – 75700 021-111-111-273

Regards, Shan Saleem — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShanMSaleem (talk • contribs) 10:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Bangial

First, is it spelled Bangial or Bangyal? If Bangyal is the more common spelling there probably needs to be a page move disucssion before the page is moved.

Second, this was de-stubbed today but it remains unreferenced. Can someone familiar with the topic take a look at it? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 00:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

This page continues to need attention. There may be some more references in page history of Bangial (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and in the page history of the redirect Bangyal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Who determines the name and numbers of the Cultural heritage monuments in Pakistan?

Hello,

These monuments have names and numbers and I am wondering who (Government of Pakistan?) determines these. I work on the Commons and there is variation, especially in names of these monuments. Is there a place where I could find answers when there is a conflict over what a place is called, for example? Thanks, --Krok6kola (talk) 22:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

RfC: Notability of Draft:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai

Greetings,

Your valuable comments on notability are requested at Draft talk:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai#RfC: Is this topic notable or not ?

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 08:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 March 6 § File:Manqabat-e-Qari Muslehuddin.jpg

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 March 6 § File:Manqabat-e-Qari Muslehuddin.jpg. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Pakistani cricket lists

Hi everyone. Hope you all are well. If anyone you have some time then please give your input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket five-wicket hauls on Irish cricket grounds. Thanks. Störm (talk) 17:05, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Ijaz Husain Batalvi or Ijaz Hussain Batalvi?

The creator of his page named it "… Husain …", but later altered the text to be "… Hussain …".
I presume two s and Hussain is correct?
• FYI, the creator, Promote justice (talk · contribs), has been very recently blocked as a sock puppet. 220 of ^ßorg 12:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Move proposal per policy

Hello. Requesting comments at Talk:Bhat#Requested move 20 March 2021. The article title should be changed per policy — WP:COMMONNAME/WP:UCRN. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 14:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Highest railway in Pakistan?

If you know the answer, make sure to add it to relevant wiki pages, especially to List of highest railways by country. Thanks! Zach (Talk) 21:28, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol

New Page Patrol needs experienced volunteers

• New Page Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles, including Pakistan related articles. We could use a few extra hands on deck if you think you can help.
• Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; Wikipedia needs experienced users to perform this task and there are precious few with the appropriate skills. Even a couple reviews a day can make a huge difference.
• If you would like to join the project and help out, please see the granting conditions and review our instructions page. You can apply for the user-right HERE. --John B123 (talk) 12:38, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Seeking help editing an article

Hi everyone,

I am a student who is new to Wikipedia. In one of my subjects, I am editing and updating the China-Pakistan Free Trade Agreement article. I was wondering if anyone would be able to provide me with some feedback and help me improve it.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! :)

S2102sa (talk) 01:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey there, @S2102sa:, your work on the page has been excellent; however, I am concerned about your sourcing. It seems to me that you are sourcing mostly from books or research material. Wikipedia policy states that you should not use original research. of course, if I am misunderstanding or the source really is correct, please let me know. Also, the method in which you source is confusing. Usage of an academic word such as "et al" can be confusing to many, Wikipedia should be understandable to average people. I recommend sourcing from online trustworthy news articles, such as Dawn, The News, and Jang. If you are going to cite from books, at least provide a link to it (perhaps Google books?). I recommend that you replace your sources with sources from online news articles and link your book sources. I am not trying to discourage you, your editing has been mostly excellent, however, the sourcing is a problem. Fixing it is appreciated. Thanks! RealKnockout (talk) 17:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

@RealKnockout: Okay, thank you so much! I did see that Wikipedia policy advises for original research to not be used so that's why I have been using peer-reviewed journal articles that are characterised as 'secondary' and 'good sources', see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Scholarship, the articles I have been using are just reporting on previously known information and data so I believe that I am able to use these. However, I will fix up the "et al." and implement more newspaper articles! Thank you so much for the rating and the advice, I will continue to improve and edit the article. S2102sa (talk) 03:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification on your sources. Keep up the good work and soon enough we can get that article up to B-class rating 💪!RealKnockout (talk) 17:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

@RealKnockout: You're an inspiration and a model for all to follow! I work mainly on ChinaProject, where we need attentive editors like your good self to mentor new editors and curate articles. @S2102sa: has gone well beyond the few suggestions I have made.ch (talk) 16:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@CWH:@RealKnockout: Yes, definitely! Thank you for all your help! It can be difficult to navigate Wikipedia as a new editor, so I really appreciate all the help you have given me! I just finished putting in the final touches to China-Pakistan Free Trade Agreement. Let me know if you have any more feedback or suggestions. Thanks again! S2102sa (talk) 04:41, 29 May 2021 (UTC) @S2102sa: I have upgraded the article to a B-class, as I think it meets those requirements. One thought I've had, try making sections about the thoughts and ideas leading up to the agreement and criticism/concerns. That could provide some helpful background info. @CWH: I am not as great as an editor as you may think. I may actually just be a novice. I just try to help others edit and I edit every once in a while. RealKnockout (talk) 16:19, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@RealKnockout: You may be a novice but you are rapidly becoming an experienced one! The jobs you are doing are essential in making Wikipedia a reliable and well-reputed operation.ch (talk) 18:25, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@RealKnockout: Thank you so much for the reassessment! I agree, I just added a criticism sub-section to the first phase section and I think it definitely makes it clearer. Thank you! S2102sa (talk) 03:53, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Are the tehsils and talukas of Sindh the same?

I'm under the impression that what is called "tehsil" in rest of Pakistan is called "taluka" in Sindh province. Therefore should these categories be merged: Category:Tehsils of Sindh and Category:Talukas of Sindh?VR _talk 01:08, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah they categories should be merged as they are the same thing. CreativeNorth (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Template talk:List of Pakistani districts by literacy

Hello all,

Please could someone take a look at this template. It's been vandalised a lot and I don't have the knowledge of what the most up-to-date info should be.

Thanks! Princess Persnickety (talk) 11:57, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

This cannot be real

I am not an editor, I am a daily scroller, and financial contributor. This was the most difficult piece I have ever read. I am not qualified to edit or change. But please, someone who is, help. 65.30.80.82 (talk) 18:32, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Request of inputs

Greetings,

Hi, I'm User:Bookku a discussion about the sourced content is underway @ Talk:Minar-e-Pakistan#En masse public molestation and sexual violence against women. Your inputs are requested and awaited. Thanks and warm regards.

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias are for expanding information and knowledge' (talk) 18:09, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move discussion at Talk:Muhajir people

An editor has requested for Talk:Muhajir people to be moved to another page. Since you had some involvement with Talk:Muhajir people#Requested move 29 August 2021, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so).VR _talk 05:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move discussion at Talk:Khan Abdul Ghani Khan

An editor has requested for the article on poet Khan Abdul Ghani Khan to be moved to Abdul Ghani Khan. Discussion here. --Bejnar (talk) 23:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

About Insignia of Inter-Services Intelligence

I am litle bit confused about it as I've seen many editors are trying to remove currently used insignia of the article to this old Markhor one which became very popular since it was first revealed in 2014 as according to just like this tweet by Pakistani journalist Wajahat Saeed Khan. Now, it seems that Inter Services Intelligence have changed their insignia now to the currently one that is used in article presently. If you look at these these sources which I am going to explain now:

• If you look at this source which is about Pakistani Army chief's visit to ISI headquarters in August 2020, you can see the logo right behind inscribed on the flag which is the official insignia usually used by Pakistan Armed Forces.
• But when you see at this source which is about Pakistan's current PM Imran Khan's visit to ISI headquarters in Novembor 2020, you can see the insignia right behind inscribed on the flag got changed.
• And here are some fresh and clear photos of this flag insignia shown at these sources:[5][6] of which second one is of Inter-Services Public Relations which is the official media wing of Pakistan Armed Forces, you can see the logo right clearly on the right side flag and you can see emblem also right behind the two officials (whom are current DG ISI Faiz Hameed and Pakistan's former Air chief Mujahid Anwar Khan) in the image of the source of Dunya News one, the logo has a difference of eagle bird only but flag inscribed logo is same identical to the current one used in main article. So the question is why many editors are trying to add this old logo again as it has changed now and I've cleared this in File:Pakistan ISI Logo.png description page too. Although it may be kept fairly used in the main article in its History section if someone likes! Can someone adress to my this confusion quickly please? Wallu2 (talk) 12:10, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wallu2: The thing is that the news of a new logo does not seem to have spread widely. While I have found Reddit posts and defence.pk threads with people talking about how the logo has been changed, the problem is we cannot find any RS to back up our claim in the face of opposition. The closest thing I found to a reliable source is this tweet by defence.pk (I didn't actually view this tweet yet, it's blocked on my PC so may be incorrect). Anyway, I think you are justified in your belief of a new logo. Perhaps go on the talk page and make a post with the sources you have and the tweet I gave (if valid) and wait a while for any opposition. Once it is resolved, upload the new logo and nobody should have a problem with it (and if they do, you can cite the discussion you had). RealKnockout (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Nayadaur

Is nayadaur.tv considered a reliable source? I have preemptively removed it from a BLP, but I cannot find much about this source to indicate reliability or lack thereof. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I've never heard of it before but it seems like most articles are just opinion pieces. My personal opinion is that I would only use it if no other source is available. CreativeNorth (talk) 13:38, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: No, it is not a RS at all. --Saqib (talk) 10:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@CreativeNorth and Saqib: I realized belatedly I had not acknowledged these responses, my apologies. Thank you, I appreciate the help. Saqib, if I may, could you elaborate? I do not read Urdu, and do not trust google to accurately translate information about the website. Vanamonde (Talk) 12:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: This site has no credibility in terms of editorial as I can see. Its clearly a user generated website which generally publish guest articles. Their about us page says NDM started as a Facebook platform. Later, we started our Youtube channel and in early 2018 we built this website in English and Urdu. We shouldn't be calling a merely couple years old news website as a RS. The page further says Naya Daur Media has attempted to support and strengthen citizen voices and provide a platform to bloggers, v-loggers and reporters so that citizen journalism turns and that we intend to become a citizen portal where the young Pakistanis (and those of Pakistani descent) find their voice and express themselves. Which means its more like a blog than a news website. As far I can see, their most active user which is news desk generally copy paste press releases or news stories from other mainstream news websites. Hope this clarifies. --Saqib (talk) 13:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Saqib, extremely helpful, thank you. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: @Saqib: Pinging these users because they may be interested in this update; Naya Daur says that they have "partnered" with a newspaper called The Friday Times and that users should visit that site instead (seems like a full-blown merger to me, but whatever). The Friday Times seems to confirm this as its new website wordmark has both agencies' logos. The about us section is lengthy (I didn't bother reading it, just skimmed it). The Friday Times seems like a decent source, it has its own Wikipedia Article and seems reliable. Should it be acceptable as a source? RealKnockout (talk) 12:44, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

If content remains at the nayadaur.tv website, I'd say we still shouldn't be using it, per Saqib above. Conversely I don't think the merger invalidates The Friday Times as a source, it still seems fine. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:05, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Bacha Khan International Airport#Requested move 15 October 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Bacha Khan International Airport#Requested move 15 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 01:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Independence Day (Pakistan)#Requested move 16 October 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Independence Day (Pakistan)#Requested move 16 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR _talk 15:45, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir#Requested move 20 October 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir#Requested move 20 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR _talk 15:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Akhtar Hameed Khan Featured article review

I have nominated Akhtar Hameed Khan for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Article Review

Hi, Can someone please review this article. It came into my radar when I saw this and this where the author is writing about himself. I wanted to nominate if for deletion as it fails WP:RS and it looks like that the references are self-published and the article contains irrelevant content (for example promotional content about the movie producer etc) . Can anyone here please have a look at it? Thanks. PediaXmark (talk) 22:14, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Help to improve zubairi/zuberi clan

help for research about Zuberi clan in Pakistan, for improvement of Zubayr ibn al-Awam article Ahendra (talk) 12:39, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

RfC at Pakistan

Please participate in the RfC at Talk:Pakistan/Archive 21#RfC for map. Peter Ormond 💬 14:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Military academies in Pakistan#Requested move 8 December 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Military academies in Pakistan#Requested move 8 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Requesting some article expansion help

Greetings,

Hi, I am User:Bookku, I find information and knowledge gaps create Drafts, try to recruit draft expanding editors and promote drafts articles for further expansion.

Requesting your visit to following drafts pertaining to South Asia and help expand the same if any of these interests you.

• Draft:Aurat (word)
• Draft:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai
• Draft:Love in Pakistan
• Draft:Aroosa Alam
• Draft:2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault
• Draft:Forced conversion to Islam in Pakistan
• Draft:Rehmatul-lil-Aalameen Authority (Updated in this list on Dec 27 2021)

• Still to be initiated.
  • Draft:Urdu feminist literature

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 08:48, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Aroosa is not notable, please - the sorry state of affairs in Punjab politics is a sight to behold. This is not Wikitionery to have an entry on "Aurat" either.

Love in Pakistan and Urdu Feminist Literature are fascinating (and valid) topics - if you need resources, give a ping. I will take up the article on forced conversion.

No idea about the rest. TrangaBellam (talk) 14:06, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

@TrangaBellam: I keep collecting sources and develop as I get time without worrying whether those will sustain independent article or get merged somewhere in future. It's true that my list of drafts is long enough and any one taking up an article relieves me a lot.

I have added one earlier forgotten Draft:Rehmatul-lil-Aalameen Authority in above list (Some critics says Imran Khan is going on lines of Z.A. Bhutto look modern but play conservative, whatever their political compulsions Imran Khan envisioned new institution is under criticism from Pakistan's liberals. Whatever the case encyclopedia takes note and the world remains aware is better, IMHO.

Many thanks for taking up article of forced conversion. Also would eagerly need assistance in Love in Pakistan and Urdu Feminist Literature.

( Btw many times I feel that for all South Asian WP projects had only one page would have been better. Like wise for other continents. Presently I have to remove one article from this country list and another from other before posting expansion request messages. :) )

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 14:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bookku: can I please help with Draft:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai? Dananeer Mobeen was speedily deleted for reasons that didn't have to do with notability.

@TrangaBellam: shouldn't Draft:Forced conversion to Islam in Pakistan be merged with Forced conversion of minority girls in Pakistan?VR _talk 06:21, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Review of new Article

Hello

I've made my first wikipedia article Draft_talk:Haq_Khatteb_Hussain_Ali. Can someone please review this and help to move it to accepted articles section? any information / sections I should add further?

Thanks and have a great day. Light truth 1985 (talk) 15:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Help needed on Arrar

Arrar is a stub about a village, created 2017 and unsourced since then. A new editor is persisting in adding unsourced info about his home village, another Arrar. Could someone with access to appropriate WP:RS please source the original article and create a sourced stub for the second one? Thanks. PamD 06:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Resolved

I found Arar, Pakistan, and have added hatnotes to connect the two. But both could still use some improvement. PamD 07:03, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

it is home of Chouhdarys.

it is a title of honour, usually hereditary, originating from the Indian subcontinent.[1][self-published source?] It is an adaption from Sanskrit. During the Mughal rule, it was a title awarded to eminent people, while during British rule, the term was associated with jagirdars and social leaders. the common female equivalent was Chouhdary.[2] Many landlords under the Permanent Settlement carried this surname.[citation needed] Land reforms after the partition of India abolished the permanent settlement.[citation needed] In modern times, the term is a common South Asian surname for both males and females.[citation needed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.41.157.178 (talk) 15:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

it is home of chouhdarys

it is a title of honour, usually hereditary, originating from the Indian subcontinent.[1] It is an adaption from Sanskrit. During the Mughal rule, it was a title awarded to eminent people, while during British rule, the term was associated with jagirdars and social leaders. this surname is given to the noble families.It was also used as a title by military commanders responsible for four separate forces, including the cavalry, navy, infantry and elephant corps.[4] These people belonged to the zamindar families in British India.[6][verification needed]
        the common female equivalent was Chouhdary.[2] Many landlords under the Permanent Settlement carried this surname.Land reforms after the partition of India abolished the permanent settlement.In modern times, the term is a common South Asian surname for both males and females.
    Chouhdary is a surname not a cast. Chouhdary is a family surname. for this surname you have to born with it. Basically they are feudal lords.and born with golden spoon.
    they have two names before surname "Chouhdary".they are attracted towards feudal system. they plays important role in progress and welfare of there native area.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.41.157.178 (talk) 15:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC) 

Requested move at Talk:Geo TV#Requested move 18 February 2022

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Draft:Afro-Pakistanis, can some one adopt it?

Greetings,

Happen to come across a interesting Draft:Afro-Pakistanis which still needs refs and other updates. I suppose, it will be good if some one comes forward to adopt and update the article draft; since the user who created seems to have been blocked for some other reason.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

The draft is entirely unsourced and duplicates the existing article Siddi. Also, the creator has been indefinitely blocked. – Uanfala (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

An old mass of unsourced articles about places in KPK

Has anyone seen this series of article creations from 2014? There are over 300 articles, mostly about union councils in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, created by the same editor in extremely rapid succession and all apparently following the same formula. The trouble is, the only sourcing appears to be a cookie-cutter list of four "External links" entries, which upon closer inspection turn out not to contain any content at all about the places in question. Unless the small sample I've checked was biased, this means that these articles were unsourced upon creation, and most of them appear to have remained such. That's obviously a problem. – Uanfala (talk) 22:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Miramshah#Requested move 13 April 2022

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Draft:The Times Of Sindh

Hello dear respected WikiProject Pakistan Team, you did a great article on "Daily Awami Awaz" that was my wish to create and i will expend that as soon as i can, Can you please add "The Times Of Sindh" newspaper article in your projects list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamalshsh48 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

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Article expansion and copy edit request

Greetings,

A new article Lettergate regarding international relations in between USA and Pakistan has been listed @ DyK, requesting further expansion and copy edit support.

Thanks, Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 11:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Unsure what to do about Constituency PP-52 (Gujranwala-II)

There seems to be a Gujranwala-II constituency already (Constituency PP-92 (Gujranwala-II)), while the PP-52 constituency seems to be Faisalabad-II. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Also, could someone take a look at Template:Constituencies of Punjab Assembly. There are some repeated numbers there. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:34, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

RSN discussion for Urdu language ref, dailypakistan.com.pk

Posted at RSN yesterday with no response yet: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#dailypakistan.com.pk_(Urdu-language_ref) - Hipal (talk) 17:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Could use some eyes

So, we've got an article at AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Jammu (1399). It's a pretty big, pretty good article. The thing is, not only is not referenced, we basically can't find any references. It's been suggested that it's a hoax. Except there's tiny reference. It's just odd. It's a nice article otherwise, we hate to just dump it. There's more at the AfD. None of us can read any Pakistani languages. So if anyone here can take a look at it, that'd be nice, thanks. Herostratus (talk) 00:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:1988 Hyderabad, Sindh massacre#Requested move 30 August 2022

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Requested move at Talk:Death and state funeral of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani#Requested move 25 September 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Death and state funeral of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani#Requested move 25 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

That probably was cryptic... why do we care about that? This RM involves about 50 state funeral articles, including at least one that is related to this WP. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

People’s Anti-Fascist Front

Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at People's Anti-Fascist Front and assessing it? It was created a few weeks ago directly in the mainspace and has zero categories. It also has no WikiProject banners on its talk page, but it seems to fall within the scope of this one based on someone of the article linked to in the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:57, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

FAR notice for Political integration of India

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WP:SURNAME confusion

I posted this question at WP:TEAHOUSE and received a suggestion to try here on this Wikiproject.

I'm trying to figure out how WP:SURNAME should be applied consistently in articles about Pakistani officials.

For example, consider Ziauddin Butt. The subject is referred to as the first name "Ziauddin" or "General Ziauddin" throughout the article. The very same article also refers to Nawaz Sharif in the lead as the second name "Sharif" but in the article about him, he is referred to as the first name "Nawaz". And yet the same lead paragraph also refers to General Pervez Musharraf as the second name "Musharraf" as well as in the article about him, and not the first name "Pervez".

If we were to be consistent with WP:SURNAME, how should those three articles refer to their subjects? There is no consistency between them now. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Anachronist: although there's no formal policy or guideline as to how Pakistani people should be referred in biographic articles but in Pakistan people are usually known by their first names as you've seen on Ziauddin Butt's page. However as to Nawaz Sharif and Pervez Musharraf, they are mentioned in international newspapers by their surnames so that's why their articles use their surnames accordingly. Muneebll (talk) 15:45, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. It makes sense to be consistent in one article, although it stuck me as strange for the name usage to be inconsistent in the same article. The article on Ziauddin Butt refers to the subject by the first name, but other people by their surnames. Rather than making an assumption and fixing it myself, I thought I'd ask here first what the common practice should be. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:39, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Myra Sajid

The article Myra Sajid has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. UtherSRG (talk) 13:42, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Discover Pakistan TV (Pakistan's First Tourism TV Channel)

Please Review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Discover_Pakistan_TV Ihaiders1 (talk) 13:17, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at: Talk:The Buddha

The page which had been Gautama Buddha was unsuccessfully proposed for a change to Siddhartha Gautama, then successfully changed to The Buddha, and is now being proposed for a change to Buddha. Your input and expertise would be most welcome at: Talk:The_Buddha#Requested_move_25_November_2022 Best, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:46, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pakistani Taliban/Archive 2#Requested move 11 October 2022

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Sources about the Pakistan Embassy International School and College Tehran

I wonder if Pakistani editors know of any newspaper archives that cover the establishment of Pakistan Embassy International School and College Tehran? A PROD was listed on it so I'm trying to see if some sources are available that describe the establishment of the school. Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 18:37, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Blasphemous content on Pakistan

Which articles are deemed to have blasphemous content leading to Pakistan's current ban on Wikipedia? If they can be identified, it might be possible to review the content.--Ipigott (talk) 19:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

@Ipigott: Responded here as well for ease. Take a look at Wikipedia:Ahmadiyya Caliphate information. ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder

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Discussion at WP:AN § Procedural quirk in WP:GS/CASTE

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Requested move at Talk:Chitral Kalasha language#Requested move 16 March 2023

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Please assess Syed Bilawal Shah Noorani

It is an important cultural site in Pakistan. Thank you, Krok6kola (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

CfD for Indian subcontinent descent categories

Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_23#Indian_ancestors_by_region —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 00:40, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Feedback and Review requried: UK-Pakistan Judicial Protocol on Children Matters (2003)

Hi there - an article that I created UK-Pakistan Judicial Protocol on Children Matters (2003) is in need of a feedback and review. If anyone is interested in this topic area I would greatly appreciate some more eyes on this. 147.188.245.156 (talk) 15:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2019 Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes#Requested move 21 June 2023

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Requested move at Talk:Chief of Air Staff (Pakistan)#Requested move 14 July 2023

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Requested move at Talk:Koral, Punjab#Requested move 25 July 2023

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Credibility bot

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Toshakhana reference case / Imran Khan Sentencing

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2023 Battagram cable car incident

An article has been created about the 2023 Battagram cable car incident. Input by members of this WikiProject would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. GnocchiFan (talk) 18:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent#Requested move 8 September 2023

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2016 Indian Line of Control strike has an RFC

2016 Indian Line of Control strike has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Gotitbro (talk) 11:02, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Pakistan:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

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Proposed Deletion: Zakhi

A discussion is taking place here if Zakhi meets WP:GNG. Please feel free to weigh in. Annwfwn (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Chitral District

A huge number of articles need to be updated after Chitral District was split into Upper and Lower Chitral District, even though that change happened in 2018. In particular, every subcategory of Category:Chitral District, and every template associated with Chitral District, needs to be split. See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_22#Category:Chitral_District. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Deportation of undocumented Afghans from Pakistan#Requested move 5 November 2023

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Kohistan District

Hi folks! Like the issue with the now-divided Chitral District, Kohistan District articles need to be re-categorized according to their new districts. I've done some sorting, but there are still articles lacking coordinates or any other indication as to their current location. If anyone's interested in either of these districts, please have a look at the Kohistan articles and the Chitral District articles and see whether you can re-sort them for those of us with little knowledge of the geography. There aren't that many, truly. Thanks! Her Pegship (?) 22:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Naseem Shah (cricketer)#Requested move 16 January 2024

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Hi Lads, Its about the Bolan

Suzuki Bolan, One of the most popular cars in Pakistan, Lets improve it! and lets give it a shot! Arotparaarms (talk) 14:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dasht Shuleeg

An AfD of interest to this project's members. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Asim Munir (general)#Requested move 7 February 2024

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Requested move at Talk:PTI intra-party elections case#Requested move 7 February 2024

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Political Flags

Hi, I'm seeking input from this project on the matter of political party flags. The Wikipedia Manual of Style suggests that flags should be avoided in infoboxes. This is to avoid giving some fields in the infobox unnecessary dominance, and flags are also frequently not much else than decoration, adding nothing informational for the reader. But some editors seem to be adding these to articles on Pakistani politicians, where the politician's party allegiances are listed in the infobox.

So my questions are;

• Is there particular value to having these flags? Will the average reader recognise and find them of use?
• Is there a case for the the manual of style being over-ruled in this particular case?
• Either way, is there a suitable place where guidance to editors could be recorded for this?

Thanks. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 11:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Khattan

Can anyone help settle this? See the edit history. It's about location, but I can't do anything with it. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

@Drmies I will take a stab at it. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 14:49, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

User:SheriffIsInTown, thank you--I should have thought of you right away, of course. Drmies (talk) 18:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Jarwar

Does anyone have time to look at Jarwar? Heavily edited this month. Specifically, the image needs a caption. Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 14:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Next Pakistani Senate election

The sources I'm finding aren't very clear but indicate the title should be 2024 Pakistani Senate election (14 March). Is this correct? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:17, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Tamgha-e-Imtiaz

We should be updating Tamgha-e-Imtiaz article page with all the winners years-wise. if someone can help me with source, I can do this job. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadriaz009 (talk • contribs) 10:31, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Contentious editing at Pakistan

The article is currently in a stalemate following this edit. A discussion is underway at Talk:Pakistan/Archive 22#HM. Volunteers are encouraged to assist in resolving the issue. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bularung Sar

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Requested move at Talk:Bajaar#Requested move 6 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Bajaar#Requested move 6 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 01:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Provincial election articles

The provincial election articles are currently a bit messy, with no consistent style or formatting for the results tables. I am planning to format them all using the same results table that is used for the National Assembly results tables (i.e. this). This excludes the "independents joined" column that appears in a few provincial election articles – I think it is unclear to readers what this means (this is quite a Pakistan-specific thing), it gives a misleading impression that parties won more seats than they did, and I think it makes the tables a bit of a mess. When there are cases of independents joining parties after the elections, this should be mentioned in the prose instead (as is done for National Assembly articles). Hopefully this isn't controversial. Cheers, Number 57 03:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Developing Countries WikiContest

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Any sources

Can yall find any good sources for Nar Azad Kashmir please? Bally125 (talk) 19:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

For context see Draft:Nar, Azad Kashmir. KylieTastic (talk) 19:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Not many sources on the subject so these might be the best you can find.

Mineral resources of Azad Kashmir and Hazara (Pakistan): special emphasis on Bagnotar-Kala Pani (Abbottabad, Hazara) new coalfield

Throchi Fort, Azad Jammu, and Kashmir: Significance, History and Architecture pg. 74

STRUCTURE-ANALYSIS-OF-NAR-ANTICLINE-DISTRICT-KOTLI-AZAD-JAMMU-AND-KASHMIR-PAKISTAN.pdf (researchgate.net)

Canned Knight (talk) 10:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Coke Studio

There have been a lot of creations and updated related to Coke Studios over the last couple months, one of which is Coke Studio Pakistan. While the main program seems notable, I am questioning the individual seasons. There is List of Coke Studio Pakistan episodes which has a brief summary of each season as well as performers, but then there are pages for each season including Coke Studio Pakistan season 15, Coke Studio Pakistan season 14, and so on. I am asking for feedback on the project page here as a lot of the references seem unreliable, churnalism, paid-for, or do not coverage the seasons themselves in-depth. I did not want to do a mass deletion recommend or redirects without first seeing if anyone has feedback. Also note this is related to other Coke Studio pages such as Coke Studio Africa, Coke Studio (Indian TV program), Coke Studio Bangla, Coke Studio Bel 3arabi, Coke Studio Philippines, many of which also have individual episode pages (Coke Studio Bangla season 1, Coke Studio Bangla season 2, Coke Studio Bangla season 3). Coke Studio @ MTV is a redirect yet there are individual season that have pages (see Coke Studio @ MTV season 3). Pinging @Counsel1111: who seems to be doing most of the work on these pages. Also notifying other related WikiProjects to opine in the conversation. CNMall41 (talk) 21:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

CNMall41, You're spot on. I also encountered some pages that I believe may not meet the GNG and felt the urge to take them to AFD. However, I was reluctant to open another front as some users have already expressed annoyance with my previous nominations related to Pakistani TV shows. — Saqib (talk) 09:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I think many should be merged as a few I checked would not meet the guidelines for an individual season. However, I would still like input from anyone in the space so as not to cause disruption. A lot of time redirects are simply reverted so we wind up at AfD anyways. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Another concern is that some of these were heavily edited by socks and LOUTSOCKing such as Coke Studio Pakistan season 5. Seems like an attempt to promote the show which is not the purpose of Wikipedia. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you on this. In fact, I've been working on the main page of Coke Studio @ MTV to merge all the pages of Coke Studio @ MTV. I can do the same with Coke Studio Bangla if you want. As for Coke Studio Pakistan, I think we should find a way to fix that, considering it is airing its 15th season. Counsel1111 (talk) 09:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Counsel1111, Please also address the COI concerns I've raised here. — Saqib (talk) 10:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Having 15 seasons does not make each season notable. It may help contribute to the notability of the main Coke Studio Pakistan page, but the individual seasons do no appear notable. Also curious why you are expanding the same pages you say you are meaning to redirect. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

You also stated in March on your talk page that you were going to refrain from making any related edits to these pages yet have been steadily doing so since. At this point maybe the best thing would be to draftify these pages given the COI concern raised. They can then go through the full vetting process and either moved to mainspace or declined and redirects created. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Agree with you. The pages should be draftified. Saqib (talk) 22:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh, well, guess you two have it all figured out already! No need for my two cents then. Counsel1111 (talk) 09:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Counsel1111, Figured out already what? Care to explain please. — Saqib (talk) 10:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Counsel1111, please assume good faith here and discussion. I have which is why I pinged you. I wanted to make sure to discuss with everyone and receive your input as well. You are welcome to opine in the discussion and provide any feedback. It was better to do so here than to have a bunch of redirects created or deletion discussions started. They may be unnecessary but better to discuss than cause a disruption. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:25, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Nushki District#Requested move 11 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nushki District#Requested move 11 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikiproject

Would anyone be interested in joining a sub project of WP:Anthropology on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 19:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Abdul Aleem Khan (Hyderabad politician)#Requested move 2 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Abdul Aleem Khan (Hyderabad politician)#Requested move 2 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

RfC on Sources &Mahatma Gandhi's last hunger strike

Feedback on what the reliable sources allow us to say in an NPOV fashion about the motivations and goals of Mahatma Gandhi's last hunger strike is requested at: Talk:Mahatma Gandhi RfC on Mahatma Gandhi's last hunger strike Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Template: Pakistan-Stubs

I have added more Pakistan-related stubs to this page for the benefit of everyone. Crosji (talk) 07:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Activating WP Balochistan

Can someone please help me on how to activate the Wikiproject Balochistan Category:WikiProject Balochistan, Pakistan participants. We have all the provinces activated except Balochistan. It is high importance for Pakistan: Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan as its one of the four provinces. Tribal Explorer (talk) 11:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, right! I am also surprised to see that geographic stub types exist down to district level for Punjab and KP but not for Balochistan and Sindh. If small regions like Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan have own stub categories, Balochistan with its huge territory, clearly lacks coverage.

If there isn’t enough interest in reactivating a dedicated Wikipedia Project for Balochistan, which I would support, the province would benefit from at least having more structured support with dedicated geo-stubs, constituency-stub, and own MPA-stubs. Crosji (talk) 02:42, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

The real issue isn't about activating the WikiProject. It's the lack of active editors. As long as we have enough engaged editors working on Balochistan-related articles, the activity level of the WikiProject itself doesn't matter much. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I have activated the project, but “use it or lose it” applies here—it will revert to inactive if there is no participation for a year. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Dear @SheriffIsInTown, thank you for this. And I will actively use it from now on. Tribal Explorer (talk) 07:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @SheriffIsInTown, I tried to tag one page but struggling to do that. Can you or someone else please help in showing me one example with the WP:Pakistan, Balochistan project.

I added it to Kalat page, you can see the command. Tribal Explorer (talk) 08:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

@Tribal Explorer It's now fixed. However, you'll need to use the Balochistan=y parameter for the WP Pakistan template, which should add the Balochistan banner. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown Thank you. I see a difference still with other WP pages, like Pakistan: Sindh. Reference here, WP:Sindh. At Kalat, Balochistan page, it only says Pakistan only, and upon clicking show more, it shows a small line at the bottom. Just curios to know if we can fix it. Tribal Explorer (talk) 08:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Asif Ali Zardari#Requested move 29 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Asif Ali Zardari#Requested move 29 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 17:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pakistan National Congress#Requested move 29 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pakistan National Congress#Requested move 29 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 17:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Women in Green's October 2024 edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Pakistan:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 12:30, 10 September 2024 (UTC)