User talk:Fang Aili/Archive20

This is an archive of inactive discussions. Please do not edit it. If you wish to revitalize an old topic, bring it up on the active talk page.

Archive 1: 9 August 2005 - 13 February 2006

Archive 2: 14 February 2006 - 21 March 2006

Archive 3: 15 February 2006 - 28 April 2006

Archive 4: 29 April 2006 - 6 June 2006

Archive 5: 6 June 2006 - 23 June 2006

Archive 6: 23 June 2006 - 1 August 2006

Archive 7: 1 August 2006 - 22 August 2006

Archive 8: 23 August 2006 - 2 September 2006

Archive 9: 2 September 2006 - 13 October 2006

Archive 10: 14 October 2006 - 6 November 2006

Archive 11: 6 November 2006 - 21 November 2006

Archive 12: 22 November 2006 - 20 December 2006

Archive 13: 21 December 2006 - 5 January 2007

Archive 14: 6 January 2007 - 6 February 2007

Archive 15: 6 February 2007 - 5 March 2007

Archive 16: 5 March 2007 - 28 March 2007

Archive 17: 29 March 2007 - 3 May 2007

Archive 18: 4 May 2007 - 20 June 2007

Archive 19: 1 July 2007 - 25 July 2007

Archive 20: 26 July 2007 - 13 December 2007

Archive 21: 14 December 2007 - 28 April 2011

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deletion

why is a page i just wrote about been deleted? i was just about to add more —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjodwyer (talk • contribs)

You'll have to tell me what article you're talking about. --Fang Aili ^talk 00:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stansdad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjodwyer (talk • contribs)

It was deleted because it did not assert notability, and it could also be considered advertising. You can read more about notability guidelines for online content here. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 00:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

i wrote all i could see on the website, i was about to add some more detail and a photograph. its not adversiting the url is called "stansdad" exactly, that's like saying this wiki is advertising http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjodwyer (talk • contribs)

Even so, you would have to show why you think the website is notable. We do not have articles on every website there is. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 00:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

User_talk:Rob_Lindsey inappropriate comments

Hi I have been informed of inappropriate accusations about myself and my entries at the above page. You are mentioned and gave advice to google and test the page - which obviously has not happened.

I have updated many pages and am in the process of doing many more. The page mentioned was one of my early pages when I was learning the ropes and the speedy deletion was due to a lack of links rather than the content not being appropriate. I learnt how to link to information and I really take offense at someone saying that an award winning, multi published author is not suitable for wiki or that if such a person is listed it must be by themselves. I am a professional in the area of heritage and am on ministerially appointed committees and have been working in my own time at ensuring that the information on wiki for the Central Victorian Region is accurate. There are several stub pages I have improved, I've sourced and linked others and provided images.

It does worry me somewhat that someone can have something of this nature pop up on google without having checked the facts by clicking on the links or contacting me to see whether his accusation was true or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.254.125.77 (talk • contribs)

Please be more specific about what you are talking about and what you would like to have happen. I do not understand your concern. --Fang Aili ^talk 14:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

1) Unfounded, unchecked accusation made on site which appears in google. 2) Even though the site checks out with the advice you have given and meets wiki notability requirements the comments remain on Rob_Lindsey's page. 3) The presense of these comments once they have been proven wrong are not fair and must surely constitute abuse. Gervo1865 21:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

If you have a problem with the article Clare Gervasoni, you are welcome to edit it. About the "abuse", Rob Lindsey was only considering Wikipedia's guidelines, not attacking you. We have guidelines against people writing about themselves and notability guidelines. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 14:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching request

Hi, I'm GorillaWarfare and am hoping to receive some coaching to become an admin. If you'd like to coach me, please leave a message on my talk page. You can see my edit count here but don't be surprised when you see that I have 25 edits. That is because I recently forgot the password to my old account, User:Theunicyclegirl. Here is my edit count from my old account. I almost have 2000 edits. I frequently revert vandalism by watching Lupin's filtered RCs. I also like to expand stubs, particularly those relating to cats or dogs. I am very good with user warning templates and speedy deletion templates. I sometimes respond on AFD. Thanks for considering me! --GorillaWarfare ^talk 16:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm full up! I have several new admin coachees, and they're keeping me busy. I don't mind answering questions now and then though, so do ask me if you have a question. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 15:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, well thanks at least for telling me. I appreciate it! –GorillaWarfare ^talk 20:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Spike Island Artspace

Hi You have just deleted a article Spike Island Art Space which is an art organisation in Bristol. I was about to go back to edit more and it has been deleted. Why might i ask have you deleted this??

A prompt response would be appreciated

Lori Taylor--Spikeisland 16:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

• Spikeisland (talk · contribs)

Hello Lori. It was deleted because it was written like an advertisement. There are a few other concerns as well: it looks suspiciously like a copyright violation. If the text was copy/pasted from a website, it is probably copyrighted, and Wikipedia cannot accept it. Additionally, since you are the marketing manager for this island, you have a conflict of interest, and probably should not be writing about this subject. If the place is notable, trust that someone else will write about it. Thank you and have a good day, Fang Aili ^talk 16:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Xmind deletion

Hi, yesterday I just want to publish the details about the mind mapping software-XMIND here. But soon it was deleted. So can you tell me what's the problem happened? Thank you very much! Stephen

• Stephen0928 (talk · contribs)

Hello Stephen. It was deleted because it was written like advertising. Thanks, and have a great Friday. --Fang Aili ^talk 13:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Fang Aili,

There's something strange going on at the XMIND page, and after trying to have something done about it, I see you were concerned in the past about the same entry, so perhaps you can advise me. I have twice marked the following entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMIND as needing npov, being of questionable notability, needing cleanup and having excessive links. I explained the reasons in Talk. The article itself has been improved (it was horrible English at the beginning), but still has nothing to substantiate the page's notability, and still has three links to the same commercial site.

Two explanations of my actions in Talk have been removed (Talk is now empty) and all the history of the changes was removed. I edited, logged in, on 10th and 11th October, some anon editors made changes and SmackBot added dates. All of that was deleted from history. In view of the deletion of history, I reported this more or less as above on "Administrator intervention against vandalism" against the editor who appeared to have done it Briansun. Now, my report there has disappeared, does not appear in that page's history and the XMIND page history and my Talk entries there are still missing. There is nothing explaining what happened to my request for intervention on my Talk page. As you made similar, and in my view correct, observations about XMIND's page in July, I wonder if you have any idea what might be going on?

You clearly have a great deal more WP experience than I. Isn't it against Wikipedia policy to delete Talk entries (at least when points raised in them have not been properly resolved)? How does history get deleted? Is this just some problem with server replication, perhaps and all will be visible again in a day or so? I'd appreciate your advice. Argey 12:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I looked into it. Briansun (talk · contribs) changed Xmind into a redirect to XMIND. You can view the old Xmind page by clicking on the little link underneath the title "XMIND". Your talk page comments are still there, but under Talk:Xmind. From the looks of it, the contents of XMIND and the pre-redirect Xmind are somewhat different; you could try to sort that out and also figure out what the proper page title should be. Hope that helps! --Fang Aili ^talk 18:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Oof! Thanks very much for your help - I'll investigate now I have your useful hint. I did see something about redirection at one point and did a search in Xmind rather than XMIND, but it didn't get me anywhere. Argey 02:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Klein ISD Vistas High School

I noticed in your comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klein ISD Vistas High School you mentioned someone needed to improve the article, so I did a rewrite. It is certainly not a featured article candidate, but its an improvement. -- DS1953 ^talk 02:10, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2

Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project, and I'll try again in a few months! If you ever have any questions or suggestions for me, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best wishes, --Elonka 06:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

John Daly's Murder Rock Golf and Country Club

Why was my page on Murder Rock Golf Club deleted?? I worked for 30 minutes on that for a freakin school project and now it's lost. I did my internship there this summer and there was hardly any information on it on the internet. What gives? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coasterbill42 (talk • contribs)

Because it was written like advertising. If you would like a copy for your personal use, please email me. --Fang Aili ^talk 02:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

How the heck was it advertising? I worked for 400 freakin hours on that course so far this summer and I was trying to let people know that there was a new course opening this fall.

Yes I would like a copy of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coasterbill42 (talk • contribs)

"Murder Rock provides its patrons with an impressive Clubhouse constructed at the highest elevation of the Branson Creek Development for a magnificent view." ... that's certainly advertising language. If you would a copy of the article, please email me. --Fang Aili ^talk 02:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

It's true, It is sitting on the highest elevation within 20 miles of the golf course. Would I lie about that? How about changing it to " Murder Rock's clubhouse sits on the highest elevation on the Branson Creek property." And yes, I would still like a copy so I can "Unadvertise" it and put it back on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coasterbill42 (talk • contribs)

I'm not saying you're lying. Again, if you want the article, please email me. There's a link in the toolbox, on the left of the screen. If you submit the article again ("unadvertised"), please also be sure it meets notability guidelines. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 18:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day

Happy First Edit Day, Fang Aili', from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! User:SmackBot (talk) 06:46, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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You are WELCOME. I'm just here doing my job. Enjoy the rest of the week. And Happy Editing. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:35, 09 August 2007 (UTC)

Vistas High School

The article has been renamed correctly as Vistas High School Program. There is a discussion on a possible merge to its parent article at Klein ISD Merge. Your input is welcome. – Dreadstar † 22:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello.

The Spoo FAR has gone to FARC, but it doesn't look like previous comments to "keep" apply to the FARC (I don't get it either). If you are so inclined, it could use your !vote. Either way, my genuine thanks for your support of the article. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 17:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. I have voted accordingly. --Fang Aili ^talk 01:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

How Long

How long will I be wating for a Admin Coach? I'm currently 65th in the waiting list for an admin coach. --MacMad 06:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

As well, I had forgot slightly about the Admin Coaching, do I now have to add my name at the bottom of the active list? themcman1 _talk 13:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

No, on your name in older requests, say you would like to reactivate your application. --MacMad (talk · contribs)  16:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Just put it in the active requests section. Also, it is not necessary to wait in line. It doesn't work that way. You can try to contact one of the available coaches--check the status page for available coaches (those without coachees right now), or you can message someone who might take on additional coachees. --Fang Aili ^talk 00:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, FayssalF is going to coach me in the admin coaching programme starting in 'a few days'. --MacMad (talk · contribs)  06:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Admin Coaching

Sorry, (can I call you Erica?) Erica. I hope that you can forgive me for taking so long to reply your question in our Admin Coaching. I was very busy, but its all over, so I'm back. I thought of telling you that I would be late in replying, but I was too caught up in my stuff, so..I'm sorry. Cheers, Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:22, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I've been crazy busy with work too and have spent very little time on-wiki. I will try to get online this weekend. --Fang Aili ^talk 14:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Are you up for another coachee? If so, do let me be added to your list! Maybe then ZC and I can get better work on the Malaysia Portal? docboat 17:04, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but no. My online time is very limited these days. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 00:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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Applied Biosystems

Hello Fang Aili, On May 24, 2007 you deleted Applied Biosystems, Inc. citing {{db-advert}}. I intend to create a good new history page with good refs for this pioneer biotech and biochem instruments company, as a buildup to a new/same page for a major uncompleted company in ‎Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/List of notable companies. But before I get too deeply invested into it, I want to make sure it doesn't just get deleted. Just browsing on the surface of Wikipedia, it seems to have a singnificant history, as to notability, based on the "what links here" wikilinks, which are pretty substantial, for a never created/deleted page:

• ABI (links)
• Foster City, California (links)
• DNA sequencer (links)
• Leroy Hood (links)
• List of genetics research organizations (links)
• DNA sequencing (links)
• PerkinElmer (links)
• User:Ceyockey/List of companies by publication mention (links)
• Talk:Oxoglutarate dehydrogenase (links)
• Image:Str profile.jpg (links)
• User talk:Tzyyga (links)
• Robert Brownlee (chemist) (links)

Well, frankly, just based on this quick New York Times source that I just found, I am going to move forward with creating the page:

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/062700sci-genome-history.html

"The concept of Celera grew from a surprising source, a company then known as Applied Biosystems, which made the principal brand of DNA sequencing machine used by the consortium's centers." Steven Russell 21:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

Just checking to see if you're still around. How are things? Dreadstar † 01:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Kristin Mainhart

I began to post information on a singer, Kristin Mainhart, but it was deleted. It was a bio on the singer, who has made contributions to various television soundtracks (including a recent inclusion on FX's Dirt). I hadn't gone back to update it with pictures, musical contribution links and stuff (I'm new to the codes, etc.). This artist is just like Amy Winehouse, whose bio appears to be in tact. If you could offer an explanation as to why it was deleted, it would be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vpc123 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kristin Mainhart

At the time it was deleted because it did not assert notability, and was written in a promotional manner. It has since been recreated and is up for deletion. You have already commented at the link above. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 18:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Erica!

Long time no see, dear Erica! :) What a wonderful surprise it was to see you again, and as a nominator of Dreadstar no less! It's wonderful to encounter old friends like you again, and I hope we remain in contact from now on, sounds ok? Lots of love, Phaedriel - 11:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

It's good to hear from you too! Let's definitely keep in touch. --Fang Aili ^talk 23:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Dreadstar RfC

Hey Fang Aili, Dreadstar also wrote me early yesterday morning about his family emergency. Do you know if he's able to briefly check in at all on his RfC? I hope he & his family are doing okay. --Yksin 18:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching?

Hello -- I note that one of the editors you are coaching is currently at RfA, and wondered if you'd have time to take on another person? Regards, Espresso Addict 20:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but no. If something changes I'll let you know. --Fang Aili ^talk 13:27, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I realised only after posting here that you were very busy, sorry! Regards, Espresso Addict 14:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Admin Coaching

Hi, Fang Aili. Its been awhile, isn't it? I added a request at our coaching page; take a look and see how it is. Don't rush yourself; I can wait. Cheers!! Zacharycrimsonwolf 15:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Wolfbund

Hi there Fang,

I have a question, I've been trying to place the following link * Wolfbund on various articles like (Galdr) and (Seidr) but they don't seem to be there when I go back to look at it later, say during a google search. Any advice?

V —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runvitnir (talk • contribs) 16:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

They are probably being removed because they are considered spam. Links should be directly relevant to the subject at hand. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 13:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Dreadstar RfA thanks

Click there to open your card! → → →

Dearest ,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 55 supports, 15 oppose, and 1 neutral. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, I thank you for taking the time to vote in my nomination. I'm a new admin, so if you have any suggestions feel free to let me know. I would like to give a special shout out to Fang Aili, Phaedriel, and Anonymous Dissident, for their co-nominations. Thank you all!

Dreadstar

Credits

This RFA thanks was inspired by The Random Editor's modification of Phaedriel's RFA thanks.

Award time!

For years of silent, yet extremely hard effort for the best of our project, and still finding the time to coach and nominate excellent editors for RfA, I present you with this little star. Modest as it is, and knowing you deserve so much more, may this be a token of my admiration and gratitude to you, my dear Erica! :) Love, Phaedriel 21:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Can you review me?

Hi. I know you may be busy but you seem to be an experienced editor and admin. I am currently trying to gain differing opinions about my editing so that I can improve and your help would be greatly appreciated. If possible, could you please review me at Wikipedia:Editor review/Tbo 157. I will be on a wikibreak for the next week so I may not respond until next week to any messages or review comments. Thanks. Tbo ¹⁵⁷(talk) (review) 10:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I will have time; my online time is minimal these days. I read Random Editor's comments though; they're good. Just try to expand your knowledge and experience. Always use an edit summary. And wait at least a few months before trying for RfA. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 00:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for the time it took to reply due to my wikibreak. Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. I have changed my talk page link colour as you suggested. Thanks. Tbo ¹⁵⁷(talk) (review) 18:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Spencer Bell

Spencer Bell It says that you deleted this article. I didn't make the article, but I want to make it. Spencer has actually been all over the Detroit Newspapers and TV stations lately for being somewhat of a famous local musician who died of adrenal cancer at 20. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clasp (talk • contribs) 00:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

If he meets the notability guideline, go ahead. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 13:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Ernest Emerson

Hello, I just removed the AfD from this article, Ernest Emerson. I just think it would be prudent to wait until tomorrow, when the article is no longer featured on the main page. I'm not going to be online a lot today, and I don't want to argue a lot about this, so if someone reverts me that's ok. I just think a little caution is warranted when the article is going to be seen by thousands of people today. Have a good day, Fang Aili ^talk 12:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

This article should never have been given FA status and you know it. The RFD does go back regardless of IAR whatever that may be. Albatross2147 12:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not interested in arguing the merits of the article. My only issue right now is the fact that a main-page article is going to have a deletion notice on it. Frankly, this looks terrible. This article has had featured status since March and I see no reason why we must discuss its possible deletion right now. --Fang Aili ^talk 12:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

So if it's OK if an article is substandard just so long as it has FA status? I don't think so. You obviously have some issues being an Admin if you operate in such a high handed way. Perhaps you should submit to a review yourself? However I am prepared to compromise. Will you personally restore what you have reversed? Albatross2147 12:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I see you seem to be living adjacent to the subject in Wisconsin. Is this clouding your judgement in this case? Albatross2147 12:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no reason to be argumentative. For the record, I'd never heard of Ernest Emerson before.

I will post a summary of events at the Emerson talk page. If someone else (not you or I) wants to restore the AfD, I have no problem with that. This will be my last post on the matter. --Fang Aili ^talk 12:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Your role as Admin

So you don't want to talk about EE any longer - fair enough. So let's review your actions and the way you have used your Admin status today. First of all the Deletion notice states clearly that it should not be removed. So what policy gave you the right to do this? So far you have only cited another editor's view that it might look a bit odd. You have not clearly enunciated your reasoning ie. I queried what an IAR was and you did not explain this. Where does it say that an Main Page FA cannot have a deletion notice? Albatross2147 13:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I have clearly stated my reasoning on the Emerson talk page. I have no interest in arguing with you personally. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 13:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Great, now Albatross has reinstated a closed and tagged AfD in the article space. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Ernest Emerson Deletion

Will you please resurrect the AfD which you stopped. The article is clearly unencyc and as it stands does not belong here. Any changes are reverted by the article's main author and so can't be cleaned up. Albatross2147 03:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC) i agree Albatross i have tagged the page twice for being a advert and suggested it was cleaned up but mike searson just to undo my tag, surly with so many people agreeing in one poll on the talk page 9 people said it needed changed and only three wanted it left as it was! surly it needs cleaned up! John joskins 08:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Fang Aili: I think it was a mistake to remove a legitimate AfD tag, even though the article was on the main page. "Looks terrible" is disputable, and I think your opinion is wrong. I think it makes us look more legitimate than if we featured a puff piece without comment. An AfD on, say, today's front-page Kingdom Hearts page would look terrible, but for questionable articles that somehow slipped past the FA process (which IMO is obviously shoddy based on a couple of recent FA's), I think it strengthens our credibility. Anyway, please restore it now. Tempshill 16:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't object to running an AFD now that it's off the main page, but they are most certainly not allowed on the daily featured article. Raul654 20:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Raul. --Fang Aili ^talk 21:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Erica, I'd like to let you know, that I don't think there was anything wrong with your suspension of the AfD while it was on the main page, regardless of how the AfD turns out. Also this isn't the first time something like this has happened. [1] this archive from JoanneB's talk page tells that story. :) Happy editing. KOS | talk 04:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that was an interesting read! --Fang Aili ^talk 13:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Anytime! KOS | talk 13:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I support the request for the AdD reinstatement for Ernest Emerson. The article is an advertorial, pure and simple. Excalibur 09:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It's already been re-opened and closed. You're welcome to comment at the Featured article review, which is taking place now. --Fang Aili ^talk 00:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping out with cleaning up the prose in the Emerson article. I didn't realize it until you did it but as a knife collector "Art knives" means something different than it would to the average person, "decorative" might seem more fitting to folks who only know knives by what's in their kitchen drawers. Thanks also for the level-headedness and your honesty per the AFD, even though I don't agree with it; I know you were put in a tight spot by a vocal minority. For what it's worth, I have never had an objection to cleaning up prose in the article; only people removing citations and references, very few people will pitch in and help...most prefer to wave their arms and throw rocks. Regards--Mike Searson 03:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving me a message! I appreciate your honestly also.

I just made more edits to the intro-- tried to make it flow a bit better, and took out some of the more advertise-y language. I took out the sentence about him being a sought-after instructor, etc, because the article doesn't talk any more about that. I also don't think the guitar line should be in there because there's only another sentence or two about that in the entire article.

Really, the article needs to be more about the man and less about his knives. W.marsh put it best on the talk page: "A proper encyclopedic biography puts a person in a historical context, compares him to his peers, explains his legacy.." .. and the article is far from doing that at this time.

Anyways.. these are just my ideas. I'm going to bed now. :) --Fang Aili ^talk 03:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Again, thanks. Like I had said earlier...this was originally 2 articles (other was called Emerson Knives)and this one contained a paragraph or 2 referncing the other one. One editor demanded the two be merged into one and I had been working on Combat Systems as a seperate piece...so all three were combined. The guitar section was a bit longer, but it was trimmed back for notability (it only debuted in June of this year!), so it probably looked out of place in the introduction.--Mike Searson 03:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ernest Emerson FAR

I have started a featured article review for Ernest Emerson at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Ernest Emerson. Your contribution would be appreciated.--Nydas^(Talk) 17:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I've been reading it over. Thanks for the heads up! --Fang Aili ^talk 17:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ernest Emerson has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Adam Langer deletion

Hello, in May 2007 I created a page about American novelist Adam Langer, which you deleted. I am interested in recreating that page. Can you tell me how to prevent it from being deleted again? Thanks.Prufrock65 21:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I did a little Googling, and he appears notable. So I restored the page. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 18:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Wtf

Kay, do you even go to hedges? I would prefer you not delete posts. Thats really immature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xdaggerz (talk • contribs) 21:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. And my name is not Kay. --Fang Aili ^talk 16:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hammered dulcimer / Psaltery entries

I am sorry first I am writing here, but the WikiPedia Talk section is extremely user antagonistic to persons with knowledge of the subjects on Wikipedia but not computer programming. I have absolutely no idea how to use it, so I thought I would drop this in your lap and see if you can use it.

There is a proposal on the hammered dulcimer entry in Wikipedia to merge it with the psaltery. I don't suppose the person who made this proposal actually -knows- anything about either instrument.

The hammered dulcimer is a trapezoidally shaped soundbox, with two or more bridges under pairs (or triplets or quadruplets) of strings tuned together called courses, played with mallets. They vary in size, and the courses are normally counted by the number of courses over each bridge from left to right (12/11, etc.)

The bowed psaltery is an isosceles triange in shape, with a single bridge at the base, and tuning pegs along the long sides. These afford spaces which the bowed psaltry may be be bowed with either one or two (one in each hand) low tension bows.

I have played the hammered dulcimer (mine is a non-standard size 16/15) and bowed psaltery (mine has 31) all my adult life, playing in Renaissance Faires, bars, clubs, aboard Naval ships at sea (the dulcimer was a traditional instrument in the Navy at the beginning of the XX Century - documented by photographs in books), folk demonstrations, a mediaeval music competition in Weisbaden, W. Germany, and at the 1993 Closing Ceremony at The Worlds Fair in Seville, Spain.

My mother has done the same sorts of things before me (and still does), as well as playing Irish harp, and has seven albums. I released one album while still in the Navy.

I once obtained information from the Library of Congress on the bowed psaltery for her regarding its age and origin. The information they sent back through their research indicated no linkage between the two insturments.

Although not an "expert," I think I know enough to say that they are not the same instrument. They do not look, sound, or are played the same. One might as well merge pianos, accordions, and concertinas because they all have keys. I strongly encourage that these two instruments, which only have a lot of strings in common, be maintained seperately.

Thank you . . . James K. anymouse@gunafood.com 24.119.221.235 19:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I've posted at Talk:Psaltery. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 19:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Chopper Couture

Hi Erica, I was about to edit a new page on Wikipedia on my favorite ECO Fashion: Chopper Couture and it appears that you have deleted same. I checked another fashion company: Juicy Couture which is already listed in Wikipedia and it appears that their listing has met with the approval of your editors. What gives? Arlene Queen 17:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

This was deleted because it contained copyright violations, and is also an advertisement. If you wish to create an article on this subject, please write about it in your own words, and make sure it fulfills some notability guideline. Thank you, Fang Aili ^talk 20:01, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Reblock 203.33.181.9

Please consider another block of User:203.33.181.9. I only issued one notice for the vandalism which I reverted but the Stop message seemed appropriate. (SEWilco 02:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC))

Hello. Thanks for your vandal-fighting efforts! Next time, keep in mind that you'd probably get a faster response posting to WP:AIV. I've blocked this one for another 3 months. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 13:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Grandmaster Alan Lee deletion

Hi...I see that you've deleted this page for copyvio. The copy used in the article is approved by Mr. Lee and the Sterring Committee of the KFSU Association. It has been the same for almost 25 years, and what is considered the "public face" of Mr. Lee. What is necessary to get the page put back? Thanks in adviance. --DashaKat 17:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello. Please follow these instructions. (taken from Wikipedia:Copyright problems/Header):

If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published (especially online), and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, stating that you are the copyright holder of the work on the article's talk page helps, but will not likely prevent deletion. It is sufficient to either:

• Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication; or
• Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 17:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

I just scanned back through your contribution history, and it looks like your style is similar enough to my own that this should work well. Thank you! :-)

Before we begin, though, can you review my latest kerfuffle over Lake Ontario Waterkeeper and User:StevenBlack, including this off-Wiki thread? If you think I did anything that will sink a nom, I'd rather give my spot to someone who has a chance.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

:I'll take a look! First off, are you aware that your sig looks like a bunch of boxes? --Fang Aili ^talk 18:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Nope, I wasn't. On my machine, it looks like this:. It's a Unicode string: if more people complain about its appearance, I'll flip it back. I was just tickled by being able to have a weird sig that didn't add tons of markup. --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Huh. Ok. I don't really mind, but that is something people will complain about, rightly or not.

About the discussion at LOW, this was fairly uncivil. Otherwise I think you did a good job of keeping your cool when StevenBlack was pretty much acting like a bonehead. I don't know how the off-wiki link figures in. Does Steven run something called Fox Wiki? --Fang Aili ^talk 18:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Might be your browser fonts, Fang. I noticed that Chinese and Japanese characters appeared as boxes in my browser until I applied the language packs for the two languages. I see Sarek's sig as upside-down/backwards characters. Not saying it's in Chinese or Japanese...but the similarity of the description struck me. I know a couple of other users who had to change from the upside-down/backwards characers, I think Deskana had that at one time, he had a few complaints too.

You couldn't have gotten a better Admin Coach, Sarek! She's the best! Dreadstar † 18:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting of Standard Register

Good evening. I was curious as to why you deleted my recently posted article on Standard Register? I am semi-retired from SR and dabble in communications. I attended a large public relations conference last week and learned much about social media and Wikipedia. I started exploring Wikipedia and found all of my previous employers -- except Standard Register. I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to start my Wikipedia presense.

I understand it was tagged for having advertising-like text. I actually pulled the text from the SR Web site (www.standardregister.com) and pasted it into my article. I went ahead and did some editting to take out the marketing garbage, but then it was deleted. Can you give me some guidance on how to get it back? I can certainly edit it further if that is the issue. SR is a great company -- in fact, it is a leading company in printing and document management, and it well reknown in the Dayton area (it is number 6 on this year's InformationWeek 500 list of technology innovators, and it was recently named a finalist for the Dayton Business Journal's Business of the Year). Just take a look at the awards page on their site. Quite impressive and a great addition to Wikipedia.

I look forward to hearing back from you and getting your insight.

Labelman1939 23:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The biggest problem is that you pulled the text from their website. That made the article a copyright violation, and had to be deleted. If you'd like to rewrite the article in your own words, please be sure to first check this link to make sure it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Thanks, and have a great day. --Fang Aili ^talk 15:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your insight. I'm going to go ahead and write what I know about the company for the article and keep from copying-and-pasting from the SR site. one question -- do I need to start my article from scratch with a new listing called Standard Register, or do you put my old site back up for me to edit? Sorry for the probably stupid questions -- please humor a newbie. Thanks again.

Labelman1939 21:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem -- You can start the article anew. If you would like to see the old article for your personal reference, I can email it to you. Let me know. --Fang Aili ^talk 21:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User:Three Musketeers

User talk:Three Musketeers. Mannafredo 08:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

What about it? --Fang Aili ^talk 15:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I was slightly annoyed that you removed the deletion tag without any explanation at all, even though two people (one an administrator) had made speedy delete nominations - or have I just not seen it. Anyway, it's all academic now. Regards, Mannafredo 15:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Sorry about that. I didn't think it was appropriate to delete because users are generally given a pretty wide lattitude when it comes to their own userpages. Since this user has since made constructive edits (reverting vandalism), we can hope he will become a Wikipedian--in which case he can have pretty much whatever he wants on his userpage. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 15:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Fife

The userboxes on this page [2] and this page [3] both point to the council area of Fife in Scotland, rather than the musical instrument.

Is this something you can fix? Mannafredo 11:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a bit messy, but I replaced the template with the hardcode. I posted about this at Template talk:User instrument-gen‎; maybe someone knows a better way. But for now this should work. --Fang Aili ^talk 15:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Mannafredo 15:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Admin Coaching

Hello, Erica. I belive that I am ready for the next stage of the coaching process, if there is one. Anyway, I'm glad that you're bac in action. Nice to see you around, and cheers! --Zacharycrimsonwolf 14:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Howdy! I looked at your recent contribs. Regarding admin coaching, I don't think there's much for us to talk about right now. If you want to be an admin, the first step is to be more active! You didn't have many edits in October (I think you were busy with school and such). Try to add content to some articles this month, and post your comments at a few afds. Let me know if you have questions! --Fang Aili ^talk 17:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

online?

Are you online? Could you do me a favor and take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New relationship energy? I am trying to close it.. --Fang Aili ^talk 00:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm on. It looks like a no consensus/default keep to me. There are some independent sources from peer-reviewed sources in the article which verify that it's a real term, as several people have argued. I'd keep it, myself, but that is me. Firsfron of Ronchester 00:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I was just going to close it at Keep, but some else had already deleted it. I don't agree but I don't think I have the energy to argue right now. --Fang Aili ^talk 00:47, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I know exactly what you mean. :) Firsfron of Ronchester 00:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New relationship energy

Already dealt with, but thanks. I reclosed it as redirect and DragonflySixtyseven redirected it to Honeymoon period. --Coredesat 01:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I really don't understand. The sources are about "new relationship energy", not "Honeymoon period", which is, by the way, an unsourced 3-sentence stub. --Fang Aili ^talk 01:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I overturned it to no consensus. --Coredesat 01:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Coredesat. --Fang Aili ^talk 15:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, please don't tell me I'm not the "closing admin" because that's ridiculous nitpicking. I closed the debate. I didn't insert my opinion in any way except insofar as I looked at the evidence presented and determined that the debate had accurately uncovered the source of the neologism and clearly delineated its limited use. --Tony Sidaway 02:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You're not supposed to be closing delete debates, or anything remotely controversial. You should know this. You are not an admin anymore. --Fang Aili ^talk 15:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Happy Belated Halloween

Happy Halloween!

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Dearest Erica,
Zacharycrimsonwolf wishes you a Happy Halloween! Send this card to other spookers, even if it's a little late. Have a spooky Halloween and cheers!

Zachary

Credits

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If this card comes to you, tell Zachary how you like his card!

05:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I made it myself, although with a little cut and paste from other's talk pages. Cheers! --Zacharycrimsonwolf 07:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Writers Guild of America

Hi Erica/Fang Aili

Thank you for cleaning up some of the items in the WGA article. This article has experienced a lot of deletions and undos without much explanation in the Discussion tab and I've also been guilty of that at times.

The addition of the Disambiguation flag didn't fall into that trap though as a lengthy post is in the Discussion tab from 11/2 without objections. While the article is certainly not FORMATTED as a Disambig page, the SUBSTANCE is exactly that (in my opinion).

Do you agree or disagree? Either way I would welcome your thoughts in the WGA discussion tab.

Thanks! DirectRevelation 18:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)DirectRevelation

Hello! Dab pages are for pages that are not encyclopedic articles. They're a navigation tool. I can see where you're coming from though -- the WGA is really two entities. But I think that more could be written about WGA, so we should keep it an encyclopedia article rather than a dab page. Does that make sense? Also, people clicking on WGA are looking for information about WGA, not necessarily WGA east or west.

Regarding the talk page--people don't usually post to the talk page unless there's really something to hash out. Minor stuff is usually just fixed without comment. --Fang Aili ^talk 18:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the superfast reply! A good point of contrast might be the Painters union which has a national structure with locals in New York, LA and other cities. Readers are indeed looking for information on the WGA generally but there's no such organization; just two small stand-alone groups with similar names. People are either using it as a Dab page or incorrectly generalizing as a result. That's what makes me wonder if the topic is inherantly flawed (rather than just one of many articles needing work) but I guess time will tell. Thanks again for your thoughts.DirectRevelation 19:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)DirectRevelation

Spam in User talk:Shephardfamilyenterprise

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AfD

Hi Erica. You recently deleted the Magen Lacholeh article. Some users wanted deletion based on the lack of reliable and English ghits. Is this really WK's criteria? Should WK be limited to "Google Indexed English Language Sources". There is enough other (printed) information in the world to write a good encyc article. Such sources were provided but not given proper consideration. Please advice. -- Dandin 02:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually I'm not quite sure on the language issue, but in this case I couldn't find anything in the English language that would indicate notability. I really did some searching before closing the debate. There were no mentions in Google news. Some 900 hits in Hebrew doesn't indicate a whole lot either, especially since that boils down to 58 unique hits [4]. Press releases from the organization are also not considered reliable. I hope this answers your question, Fang Aili ^talk 17:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Erica for your reply. None of the sources I used to write the article were press-releases, rather mostly articles from national and well known newspapers (see for example Article in Yated). The organization has newspaper clippings on their website, but this does not turn them into press releases. They are verifiable by anyone who contacts the newspaper and asks for a copy. The lack of ghits also makes it hard for me to write an article, but IMO is no reason to disqualify other (paper) sources of reliable information. I spent much time on research and want to fix this. Please advice. -- Dandin 19:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, those articles aren't reliable because they're hosted on Magen's website. They're also mostly in Hebrew, which makes them unreadable to most of us Yankees. The English language articles only briefly mention Magen.

What exactly about this organization makes it notable, in your eyes? --Fang Aili ^talk 20:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying about reliability. However, I did not exclusively rely on their website, I wrote the articles based on actual paper sources from a few reliable newspaper articles that I have in my posession. The website sources were only added at a later stage.

What makes the org notable? First, frequent coverage in the national press and jewish press, including high profile cases they handled (religious leaders, politicians, etc). Second, they are well known to the general public and in the medical world as one of the most established jewish medical charities, receiving thousands of calls monthly (not just from jewish patients...)

nb. IMO the English article I pointed to you before in Yated does deal with Magen and Rabbi Fisher more than briefly. But the Hebrew articles should not per se be disqualified as reliable source. — Dandin 00:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

At this point I am out of arguments. If you like, you can take it to WP:DRV, where the deletion will be upheld or overturned. I really don't mind if you do this, and if my interpretation of the AfD is incorrect, I will happily concede "defeat". Thanks and have a good day, Fang Aili ^talk 14:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks but I prefer to rewrite based on sources that are acceptable to all. – Dandin 15:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

You could work on it in your userspace for now: User:Dandin/Magen Lacholeh. I can undelete the page and move the contents there. Is that acceptable? --Fang Aili ^talk 16:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Erica, that would help – Dandin 02:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. Have a great day. --Fang Aili ^talk 15:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RfA

Thanks for voting at my RfA. Unfortunately, the result stands at 51 support, 21 oppose and 7 neutral which means that I did not succeed. As many expressed their appreciation of my works in featured portals during my RfA, I will fill up the vacuum position of director in featured portal candidates to maintain the standards of featured contents in addition to my active role in Good articles. Have a great day. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 04:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD of Millennium Villages Project

You recently closed the AfD for the article Millennium Villages Project with the decision to keep. Although the number of comments that supported keeping the article was greater than the number of those who opted to delete, I think that the reasoning given to keep the article was flawed. In particlular, no policy based argument was given as to why the article should not be deleted. The article failed to cite sources out side of its own web sites, and fails even to clearly state what the Millennium Villages Project is (Vaguely refering to it as an approach). Arguments to keep frequently cited the nobability of its parent organisations, but notability is not inherited. Please contact me as I wish to understand your rationale before considering taking this to deletion review. Bobby1011 04:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The keep result was pretty clear to me. It is a really crappy article, yes, but it's a notable subject. It's a UN project, and it has been covered in various news outlets [5], including CNN Money and Scientific American. So citations are available, they just aren't present in the article right now. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 17:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

BD

Yup, it's my birthday! The secret got out..;) Thanks for the well wishes! Dreadstar † 18:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yellow Dog Plains

Hi, noticed your entry in WP:MICH ... see GreatLakesWiki:Yellow_Dog_Plains... that article could really use some content... I am an admin there but don't do any content creation, or not much. So if you have time/interest, you could just transwiki. There is a template to use, see that version of GreatLakesWiki:Thornapple River ++Lar: t/c 04:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will try to remember to look into it when I have more time! --Fang Aili ^talk 20:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Click there to open your card! → → →

Dearest Fang Aili,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 137 supports, 22 opposes, and 5 neutrals. Your kind words of support are very much appreciated and I look forward to proving you right. I would like to give special thanks to The_undertow and Phoenix-wiki for their co-nominations. Thank you again and best regards.

Lara❤Love 06:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC) Credits: This RFA thanks was inspired by The Random Editor's RFA thanks which was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks.

So yeah...

Sorry about leaving you hanging (in regards to admin coaching). Yes, I know, it's been a year... :P Master of Puppets ^{Care to share?} 23:47, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem! Stuff happens. If you want to continue, I'm still available. Though I wouldn't really be able to start until after Thanksgiving. I have a very busy couple weeks ahead of me and I don't even have internet at home right now. How are you doing? How's life and stuff? :) --Fang Aili ^talk 15:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Life... oh, life. My teachers have set out against me in a conspiracy to see how many physical pounds of homework they can assign a day. I'll develop into the Hunchback of Notredame. But life is fun! :) What's wrong with your internet? And I'll see if I can get into that addicted editor frenzy before I ask for more favours. Thanks though! Oh, and if there's any menial labour you'd like help with, I'm currently without a social life. :P Cheers, Master of Puppets ^{Care to share?} 14:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

my rfa

If you voted in my RFA...

...thank you for your participation. I withdrew with 83 supports, 42 opposes, and 8 neutrals. Your kind words and constructive criticism are very much appreciated. I look forward to using the knowledge I have accrued through the process to better the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers and Wikidudeman for their co-nominations.

Thank you again and, best regards. VanTucky ^Talk

This RFA thanks was inspired by Lara❤Love's

Re: second opinion

Hello! I saw your question about how to respond to something like this. My immediate thought was that this was some kid in-between classes, posting some nonsense. The tip-off was "you can run but you can't hide..." Presumably, if the poster really was a Director of Technology, s/he is an adult and would respond to you in a more mature fashion. My response would have been to ignore him/her, or reply with something like, "Hilarious. Go back to class now." Just my 2 cents. Threats don't get far with me. Thought you might like a 2nd opinion. :) --Fang Aili ^talk 18:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate it. :) I differ from you in the fact that I have a soul I like to treat all things that impact the mainspace seriously, and I admitted to Tony that I thought it most likely wasn't the director of technology, as anyone with even a high school diploma would know better than to tell someone they're going to track them down. However, I did get an email from that editor a while later which seemed much more professional; I'm pretty sure that a student noticed the site, conversed with me, then notified the director. Or I may just be gullible, who knows.

Mainly I'd like to develop good mediating skills, as only bad things come from conflict. Anyway, thanks again! Master of Puppets ^{I have more soul than Fang Aili} 20:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

P.S. This may make you laugh. :P

LOL. Hope you don't mind me extending the laugh a bit further. Couldn't resist. About mediating skills, well, I'm not sure how I would have handled that situation. An email from the actual director would have gotten a serious reply from me. (If I thought it was realistic to assume it really was the director.) You have more soul than me? Oh noes! ;) --Fang Aili ^talk 20:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Howdy Fang Aili, thanks for participating in my request for adminship. I am happy to say it was successful, 55/0/0, and I am looking forward to getting to work. Thanks for your vote of confidence. By all means, feel free to check in on my work to come. Suggestions and advice are always appreciated.

--TeaDrinker 05:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Holiday

Turkey Dinner!!

Thanks Fang! You have a happy Thanksgiving as well! Happy Turkey Day!! Dreadstar † 00:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you please explain more fully?

The deletion log shows you deleted Image:Orthographic projection over Labrador City.png. The log doesn't record a reason why you deleted it. Could you please explain why you deleted it?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 15:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, never mind. Moved to commons. Still, I think many people consider it important to record the reason for deletions. Geo Swan (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Howdy Geo Swan. It's probably not the best way to do things, but I sometimes use the CSD criteria abbreviations in my delete summaries. In this case it was "I1", which stands for "Image criteria 1". This was used for Commons images that were moved (though now I see that the CSD criteria have changed and I8 is for Commons). Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 14:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Footnote mess

I'm glad to see I'm not just imagining this weird problem... any idea where's an appropriate place to report this? There doesn't seem to be a "technical problem noticeboard" or anything. ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 19:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Pooch cthulhu.jpg

I know you deleted Image:Pooch cthulhu.jpg (thanks) - but now it's back! There's an inappropriate fair use rationale listed on Wikipedia (it's not a book cover, and there's no commentary on it in the article it's used in) but the image itself is listed on Commons as GFDL... I've tagged it for deletion there also. Is there an appropriate process for persistent uploaders of copyright material? At the very least, the uploader could do with having a good read of copyright policies here and on Commons, but with the multiple warning messages that have been sent already, it's not as if nobody's pointed the user in the right direction already... regards, Purgatorio 19:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I deleted it again; there was no image, just text. If s/he tries again we can deal with the fair use rationale stuff. I don't see how it could be fair use though, in any case. About warnings/process: if the user continues to upload, s/he can eventually be blocked for disruption.

Where is it on Commons? If it hasn't been deleted already, let me know. I'm an admin there also. (I'm not very active, but I have the tools.) --Fang Aili ^talk 00:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, the commons version had already been removed. Certainly I can't see how the image could be fair use. I'll let you know if it reappears! Purgatorio 20:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

M&PLD, MoMD, EoF, KotKoJ, BS, AE

lol..! It's rather obscure, almost-private little joke...check out the first section of my talk page - there's a bit of a history to it. Mighty and Powerful Lord Dreadstar, Master of my Domain, Earl of Fashion, Keeper of the Keys of Justice, Banisher of Sinebot, and Administrator Extraordinaire. 16:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

.......(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!).....

Hehe.. When I saw it I was reminded of Wikipedia:WTF? OMG! TMD TLA. ARG!, and I just had to. :) --Fang Aili ^talk 17:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I agree, that's perfect! I completely forgot about WP:ARGH!....thanks for the reminder! Dreadstar † 18:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Jackson Haines

Hello Fang Aili -

Are you still interested in the information in the German article about Jackson Haines? The text there is quite different from the English, and doesn't always agree with it. If you want, I can put a translation of the German here on your talk page and you can figure out how to integrate the two versions, since you seem to know more about ice skating than I do. I have no idea what language the German article's source is in, but it seems eastern European (not German and not Finnish).

Scbarry (talk) 06:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again -

I didn't feel like waiting for your reply, so here is the relevant info from the German site. You can do what you want to with it. :-)

----

Jackson Haines (born 1840 in New York, (USA), died 1876 in Gamlakarleby (today Kokkola), Finland) was a ballet master, figure skater and above all, the founder of modern figure skating.

Jackson Haines won the first US championship in 1864 with a new way of figure skating and new skates made of steel. However, he was criticized and accused of concentrating more on the poses of the body and the extremities than on skating the figures. The stiff and severe English style of figure skating still predominated.

He therefore went to Europe and put on many exhibition performances. The first success came in Stockholm. His performance aroused the enthusiasm of the Swedish King Carl XV so much that he decided to found a Royal Ice Skating Society in 1866.

In the winter of 1868, he went to Vienna, where he again triumphed. Great astonishment prevailed in the ranks of the viewers present when he skated a waltz over the entire ice. The city of Johann Strauss offered him their thanks in their own way: one evening, 500 couples danced his waltzes on the ice! His performance became an impulse for the founding of the Vienna school, which soon balanced out the lead held by the English up until that time.

His athletic performances appeared to be so astonishing that those who didn't see them with their own eyes didn't want to believe them: they questioned the performance of the figures described. Depping, author of the work, "Zauber der Stärke und Können" ("Magic of Strength and Skill", 1869), wrote in his book that it was not possible to change direction without a new push. He rejected the statements of the eyewitnesses by saying that they were victims of an optical delusion.

The first true figure skater died of the results of a lung infection. He contracted it during a sleigh ride from St. Petersburg to Stockholm. He was buried in the small town of Galmakarleby in Finland.

The heading The King of Skating is the last evidence of the existence of a man who entered his name so expressively into the history of figure skating.

See also

• figure skating
• Beginnings of modern figure skating in the article History of figure skating

Source

• Jarmila Šťastná-Königová - Nekonečné stopy bruslí (Endless Ice Skating Tracks)

Scbarry (talk) 07:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks a lot for the message... she ended up having to put him to sleep, but the other I guess is a carrier and is immune. Now whenever my Tonkinese wants pets attention, I never turn him away :) Monsieurdl (talk) 13:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad there is a survivor! --Fang Aili ^talk 15:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Meow. :-)--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 01:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe these things have a name -- Lolcats! --Fang Aili ^talk 14:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You're just figuring that out? :-) --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 16:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Awesome! --Fang Aili ^talk 16:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

An Award

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I hereby award you this barnstar for your diligent work against vandals and all those who wish to misuse wikipedia. :D Rearete (talk) 21:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Wonky House

You have incorrectly deleted the Wonky House entry i put in assuming it was copied from another website, Tobious.com, whereas in fact Tobious copied my article and quite clearly state that Wikipedia is where the original article was published.

Please reinstate this asap as i was about to add to this and fill in more details —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nobbystylus (talk • contribs) 11:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I will need to investigate this later in the day. If you cannot wait, feel free to contact another admin. Check the delete log to see who is currently active.

ADMINS: please handle this as you see fit.

Thank you, Fang Aili ^talk 16:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It's restored. Please see my comments on the talk page. --Fang Aili ^talk 03:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Arb Com

I would certainly try it out when I'm free; thanks for informing me! --Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers WikiProject!

Hello fellow Wikipedian! I just wanted to let you know that WikiProject Green Bay Packers is looking for participants who are interested in improving the quality of the articles on America's favorite small-town team, the Green Bay Packers! If you want to help, you can your name to our list of participants, check out our to-do list, and most importantly, improve the articles!

Gonzo fan2007 ^{talk ♦ contribs} 00:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm technically a member of some dozen wikiprojects, and haven't done a thing with them in months.. so I will refrain from officially adding myself to another project. :) But I will check out the page and see if there's something I can do. Thanks for the invite! --Fang Aili ^talk 03:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hello, Fang Aili. I would like to become an administrator through admin coaching. I have been active since December 2006 and I have listed myself here a few months ago. Your comments regarding the admin coaching would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Greg Jones II 02:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Howdy Greg. I can't take you on as an admin coachee, but if you have questions now and then, do feel free to ask! Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 03:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will ask for another admin coach. Cheers, Greg Jones II 03:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)