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Proposed deletion of Dmitri Borodin

The article Dmitri Borodin has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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Invitation

Thank you for your contributions to women's football/soccer articles. I thought I'd let you know about the Women's Football/Soccer Task Force (WP:WOSO), a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women's football/soccer. If you would like to participate, join by visiting the Members page. Thanks!

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Footballer categories

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Category. All footballers are to be categorized by nationality, even if they are in a subcat. Note that I didn't make the rule. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:00, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Fábio Oliveira

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Proposed deletion of Tiago Cardoso Fonseca

The article Tiago Cardoso Fonseca has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

BLP about a footballer which fails WP:NFOOTBALL (never played in a fully-pro league or in a cup competition between 2 clubs from fully-pro leagues - Palmas wasn't participating in a fully-pro league in 2005) and WP:GNG.

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Ibra

It's pointless to split the same club in this place. He was not loaned to MU in season 16/17. Nobody has this absurd in metric, only Zlatan. Wolfgang (talk) 22:02, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wolfgang: Please read the talk page of the footballer first before making such edit. Matthew_hk tc 22:04, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

If everyone read the whole talk page, he would have no time for anything else. Wolfgang (talk) 22:11, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

It just waste everyone time if you don't read the rule, MoS and wikiproject page for the latest consensuses. Matthew_hk tc 22:59, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Alcántara

Btw . The surname is actually Andalusian Spanish before it was Brazilian. A person who has never lived in Brazil or Portugal and has Spanish nationality since age of five would be Alcántara on his passport. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:48, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest

Hi. Thankyou for your participation in the challenge series or/and contests. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women during this month for your region or wherever please sign up in the participants section. The articles done may also count towards the ongoing challenge. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Help would also be appreciated in drawing up the lists of missing articles. If you think of any missing articles please add them to the sub lists by continent at Missing articles. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:38, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't even participated.Matthew_hk tc 13:49, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Bio of Marco Alverà, Ceo of Snam - any suggestion?

Hi Matthew hk. I have recently submitted a draft containing the biography of Marco Alverà, CEO of Snam, the Italian natural gas infrastructure company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marco_Alver%C3%A0). Judging by what is written within the WikiProject Biography next to your nickname, I thought this content might be of interest to you. I was wondering if you could have a look and tell me what you think. Thank you in advance Anna Sai (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't usually create article for business people (despite some content additional on existing banker article), but i think you have to establish the person's WP:GNG instead of routine mention of each job title during his career. But i am not quite familiar with the specific guideline of businesspeople , just routine fix on general coding fix. Matthew_hk tc 16:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Foreign players lists

Hello Matthew hk , I am pinging creators and active editors of the lists found at Category:Lists of expatriate association football players because of the discussion where your opinion would be welcomed. The discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Lists_of_expatriate_association_football_players. Best regards, FkpCascais (talk) 19:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by -glove- (talk • contribs) 18:31, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Lampedusa

Hi Matthew! Momentarily it appears as though the server supporting Servizio Meteorologico are down for the long-term averages, which is a rather unfortunate occurence. Looking at the 1961-1990 data provided there though they seem to match relatively well for what I would expect for an isolated island during that timeframe, especially in terms of extremely low diurnal ranges in summer. I'd like to find a 1981-2010 source for Lampedusa since that is more contemporary climate data though, so perhaps I will be go looking for it rather soon! Also, my sincere thanks for stopping the vandalization of Catania. If you have any mod capacities I would urge you to go and look at Benidorm and Gandia and those fake Weatherboxes User:TechnicianGB is responsible for creating those fake Weatherboxes and that user deserves to be shut down for vandalizing Wikipedia. He even admitted to me in a weather forum PM yesterday that Benidorm has fake numbers. I have the screenshot! Cheers! Lommaren (talk) 09:13, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Lommaren: I don't know why you are attacking me and doing a senseless blame against me. In the Benidorm page I've cleared that those stats are done mixing those 2 sources from the sourced websites (maded up), and in the Gandia page it says clearly 3 years of data. Those numbers from Gandia were included like 2 years ago and no one had a problem with it except for few anonymous IPs and yourself. Anyways, not sure what's my relationship with Matthew asking you about Lampedusa and you mentioning me here? Strange.

I'm not sure why do you think you know me, I don't post on forums except for few ones, mostly related to gardening and plants and i'm pretty sure that I didn't see you before. Maybe someone pretends to be me? Anyways, this is Wikipedia. What happens on a forum on the Internet is not relevant...

I deserve to be shut down for vandalizing Wikipedia? I don't do nothing more than improving wikipedia almost every time when I do an edit, as well as I unmasked many sock puppets of previously banned users, as well as reverting lots of rage edits, such as the ones in the page of Almeria to put an example. For the Benidorm one I even asked one user a month ago to remove it or to make a change on it, didn't have any reply. And you, instead of coming to talk with me and to do something about that page if you really want to, just as I asked Sfoske70 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benidorm&action=history instead of solving your problem with that page, you say that "I must be shut down for vandalizing" and that "I admitted you" who knows what in a "weather forum". Well, it wasn't clearly me if that's true. And this is Wikipedia, it's not related to what someone said or not in a random forum. --TechnicianGB (talk) 16:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

October 2017

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Lotte Hotels & Resorts. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Optakeover^(U)(T)(C) 18:30, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Lotte Hotels & Resorts, you may be blocked from editing. Optakeover^(U)(T)(C) 18:32, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Optakeover: No, you are the vandal. The ip edit and my edit on [[South Korean]] ( disambiguation page) to [[South Korea]]n is right. Matthew_hk tc 18:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Let's all assume good faith. Matthew is right, [[South Korea]]n is the better way to type it. Primefac (talk) 18:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Primefac: i don't see any reason to assume bad faith on 2601:541:4304:E6B0:218:8BFF:FE74:FE4F (talk · contribs · WHOIS) to give level 3 and 4 warning on 31 October from this user and a level 2 3 for me. Russian journalist is better refer to Russian citizenship (link to Russia), than Russians, so the ip was right. Matthew_hk tc 18:43, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Primefac: You should have pinged me to this discussion earlier. @Matthew hk: I'm sorry about the warnings, it was a result of confusion. Optakeover^(U)(T)(C) 18:49, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

And Matthew hk, could you please don't template me in reply next time? You could have just messaged me on my talk page. Optakeover^(U)(T)(C) 18:50, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Re: List of suicides in the 21st century

• The first half of the conversation was in User talk:110.93.236.75 Matthew_hk tc 20:32, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

His death was in February 2013. I was trying to add a citation to his part of the article since there was none. The Wikipedia citation tool wasn't working for me so I just copy pasted a citation from another part of the article, and filled in the proper details. In that one the date listed as January 29 2013, but since that didn't make sense I just decided to increase it by a month since he died in February 2013, so how could the date be one month before his death? I didn't realize there was no 29th of February in 2013. My bad. I'm stupid. --110.93.236.75 (talk) 19:52, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

I hope this makes sense. Does it make sense? --110.93.236.75 (talk) 19:53, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

OK. Matthew_hk tc 19:57, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

OK. Cool. --110.93.236.75 (talk) 19:59, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Dragovic) has been reviewed!

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Hello, I'm Duqsene. Your recent edit appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Duqsene (talk) 21:45, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello Matthew_hk

Hello Matthew_hk,

Thank you for your message.

The image is taken when the subject is around 40 years old in the late 1930s. So I was definately taken before 1967.

This image is now in the public domain in China because its term of copyright has expired there. So, it qualified for the public domain criteria. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asia Editor (talk • contribs) 09:54, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Asia Editor: You have to fill the parameter when exactly it was taken, not by guess (unless in the photo have information to indicate photo taken date, but still did not indicate photo publish date) Also the server of wikipedia is in the US, seem it have to be prove in that part of the law also. Matthew_hk tc 09:57, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello Matthew_hk,

Thank you for your message. It can be sure that this image is taken in the late 1930s (no exact date as it's too old). So, it was 100% in the public domain in China.

The image is also in the public domain in the U.S., as it applies the rule of the shorter term and have copyright terms longer than life of the author plus 70 years.

If you have any further questions. Please don't hesitate to ask me.

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asia Editor (talk • contribs) 10:11, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Matthew hk:Hello Matthew_hk,

Thank you for your message.

This image is taken in the late 1930s in China. It is now in the public domain in China because its term of copyright has expired there. According to copyright laws of the People's Republic of China (with legal jurisdiction in the mainland only, excluding Hong Kong and Macao) and the Republic of China (currently with jurisdiction in Taiwan, the Pescadores, Quemoy, Matsu, etc.), all photographs enter the public domain 50 years after they were first published, or if unpublished 50 years from creation, and all non-photographic works enter the public domain fifty years after the death of the creator.

This file is also in the public domain in the U.S. because its copyright has expired in the United States and those countries with a copyright term of no more than the life of the author plus 100 years.

If you have any further questions. Please don't hesitate to ask me.

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asia Editor (talk • contribs) 10:53, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Matthew hk:Hello Matthew_hk, any further questions? cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asia Editor (talk • contribs) 12:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Matthew hk:Hello Matthew_hk, thank you for your message. This image was taken in the late 1930s in China. It is now in the public domain in China. And it is also in the public domain in the U.S. because its copyright has expired in the United States and those countries with a copyright term of no more than the life of the author plus 100 years. Any other questions? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asia Editor (talk • contribs) 12:33, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Request assistance on Xi (business)

I have started this page. Could you please consider also adding some input? Muzzleflash (talk) 20:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

It look too WP:OR topic to me. It differ from ZaibatsuKeiretsu, but linguistically the same as series. Did the source describe the phenomenon of HNA Group owned listed companies, or CK Hutchison Holdings Wheelock & Co-The Wharf? Matthew_hk tc 20:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Or the series of companies owned by Xiao Jianhua? Matthew_hk tc 20:33, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

but with so much academic lit on this concept, is it possible to consider an article on this to be original research? The Tomorrow Group is often referred to in popular media as this type of organization so I think it is really helpful to have an article providing background on what it means. Muzzleflash (talk) 09:37, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

If there is academic source, it is not an OR. But ZaibatsuKeiretsu was some translated as the same word (Chinese: 系列) with Xi (Chinese: 系; pinyin: Xì) in Chinese language (there were different BTW), look heavy reading to me to expand it.

And i just pop out the example likes the series of companies of the alleged empire of Xiao Jianhua (Chinese: 明天系) and Guo Wengui (Chinese: 政泉系). Need to read what the academic paper saying in order to expand it.

Also the term (Chinese: 系; Jyutping: hai6) was used in a more generic way in Hong Kong, likes CK Hutchison (Chinese: 長和系) and Lippo Limited (Chinese: 力寶系) as between the listed companies of the conglomerate, there are connection as shareholder, but in the mainland Chinese, sometimes they did not have connection as shareholder, or by natural person nominee (instead of legal person) Matthew_hk tc 09:47, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

find out i spelled wrong entirely. it is Keiretsu. Matthew_hk tc 13:41, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Well thanks at least for having a look at the article. I share your enthusiasm for creating articles on Chinese companies but also think we should spend time improving background info on the fundamentals of corporate China. Muzzleflash (talk) 12:54, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Mutual guarantees among Chinese private companies

Sorry for bringing up another topic but wondering if you are interested in starting an article on this phenomenon of mutual guarantees between Chinese companies. The sources in English seem very limited and only mention it in passing, not giving the concept a proper name even, so I don't have enough info to start an article. But it seems like a widespread business practice particular to China so I wonder if you are interested in starting an article on this? Muzzleflash (talk) 07:56, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

"In response, private companies often band together, guaranteeing one another’s borrowings, to give bank credit officers more confidence that loans will be repaid. The downside is that if one company runs into trouble, it can drag down the other companies that guaranteed its debts. Those other companies, in turn, can set off their own credit guarantees from yet more companies with no direct connection to the first one." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/business/china-zouping-debt-bank-crisis.html

"Xiwang’s credit guarantee to Qixing, in the form of a mutual guarantee, is a common practice by Chinese companies seeking to secure credit. But analysts warn it can easily amplify risks and cause crises if a weak link is broken. “The precondition for a mutual guarantee is that [the firms] must have no business overlaps or connections. Otherwise, it may actually amplify risks,” said Lu Zhengwei, the chief economist at Industrial Bank in Shanghai. The mutual guarantee network previously unravelled in two large credit risk incidents in China: a financial crisis in Wenzhou in 2012 and a steel-trade credit meltdown in the Yangtze River Delta in 2014." http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/economy/article/2088807/county-centre-chinese-debt-crisis

Yet i just pop out the financial trick of HNA Group. The Chinese word for the trick was Chinese: 互保; pinyin: Hù bǎo (shorten from "Chinese: 互相; lit. 'Mutual'" + 保 insurance /protection/ guarantee, but by context should means "guarantee" (simplified Chinese: 担保; traditional Chinese: 擔保), but not sure it is unique in mainland China or it was used in other countries. I have time to have a look after 23 November 2017. May be the business school library of UWA have some material. Matthew_hk tc 08:00, 20 November 2017 (UTC)