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1948: a bipartisan proposal

Please comment here on a bipartisan proposal to help fix the long-running structure/title issue on our articles covering the 1948 war. Onceinawhile (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

The next installment of this discussion is now open at Talk:1947–1949 Palestine war#RfC: Should the three articles have a common prefix?. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:33, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Please see Talk:1947–1949_Palestine_war#Agreeing_the_final_stage for the next part of this discussion. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

This is taking a long time. Comments on a new proposal at Talk:1947–1949_Palestine_war#New_plan_to_resolve_this would be appreciated. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Please !vote on this discussion about the titles of 1948 articles

Talk:1947–1949_Palestine_war#Vote (after reading Talk:1947–1949 Palestine war/Name)

In short, for more there a decade there is a problem with the titles of three articles: 1947–1949 Palestine war, 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine and 1948 Arab–Israeli War.
It was agreed that there is a need for a common prefix for these three articles, and a neutral title should be chosen. Before casting a vote, you are encouraged to donate 10 minutes of your time and read Talk:1947–1949 Palestine war/Name to understand the background of this long discussion. Thanks.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 16:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

The voting table has now got traction, with 10 participants. I am hopeful that with a few more, we can find a resolution to this decade-old discussion.

Please could you add your vote for all five options there?

Even if you feel this is esoteric, please vote now. We need as many people who are knowledgeable about the conflict to vote here so we can close this debate once and for all.

Onceinawhile (talk) 10:13, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Inactive collaboration?

It looks like Wikipedia:WikiProject Palestine/Collaboration is inactive. Last significant work as done on 2008. We may want to tag it with {{historical}} (example). --MarioGom (talk) 08:48, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Settlement in the West Bank

At Talk:Beitar Illit an editor has proposed removing Israeli settlement as the description, relevant to this WikiProject as the editor has notified only WT:ISRAEL of his discussion. Beyond that, the editor has already removed Israeli settlement from the article. nableezy - 14:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

RFC about YIBNA

Talk:Mausoleum_of_Abu_Huraira#RfC_about_Yibna

My post at WP:VPM (village pump, mscellaneous)

See my post AT VWP:VPM: [1]. Best wishes to all. -DePiep (talk)

Eshria’a

Has anyone come across "Eshria’a" before? It in on Palestine's World Heritage "Tentative" list here, and I believe it is also known as Qasr al-Yahud. But I can't find a source using the term Eshria’a anywhere other than UNESCO. Perhaps if anyone knows the Arabic we can find a more common transliteration. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:49, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. The source says "The Baptism Site, or “Eshria’a” (Al-Maghtas), is located on the Western Bank of the Jordan River".

Alas, the Al-Maghtas site is in Jordan, on the Eastern Bank of the Jordan River...but of course, Al-Maghtas "means "baptism" or "immersion" in Arabic". I think you are right, that it is Qasr al-Yahud. Could it come from esh-Sheri'ah, meaning "the watering-place", according to Robinson, p.257? Huldra (talk) 23:32, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, this is helpful. It is confirmed here that the River Jordan is also: Arabic: نهر الشريعة which is the same word as Sharia (law); it appears to have a secondary meaning as a generic word for waterway or watering hole. The Arabic-language wikipedia article on the River Jordan ( نهر الأردن) contains a passage from Al-Dimashqi which starts with: Arabic: ثم نهر الأردن، وهو الشريعة،, romanized: thuma nahr al'urduna, wahu al sharieat,, lit. 'Then the Jordan River, that is Sharia,'. An a 1960s book on the topic says: (The Development of the Jordan River. Arab Information Center. 1961. p. 2. The River is composed of two important sections, the al-Sharea and the Jordan. The al-Sharea River, which is the name of the Jordan before it enters Lake Tiberias, descends from a height of 230 feet above sea level to Tiberias. And if you look at the river in any of the PEF Survey of Palestine maps, it is shown as “esh Sheriah”. All of which is very interesting, but doesn’t explain the connection to the baptism spot.

@Makeandtoss: have you ever hear this name for the river before? Onceinawhile (talk) 21:27, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Never heard of the name before but a quick google search shows (allegedly from a not so reliable source) that Jordan Valley residents use it. Makeandtoss (talk) 21:40, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@Makeandtoss: interesting, thanks. Interestingly if you look at Cartography_of_Palestine#Notable_19th_century_maps, every single one of these (except where the river is unlabelled in the Turkish one) includes the name “esh Sheria” or similar. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:50, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes that is surprising. I wonder why this was never mentioned in any English-language source. Makeandtoss (talk) 21:53, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I have found it here in Guy Le Strange: [2] “ After the time of the Crusades the Jordan, in the Arab histories, begins to be called Ash Shariah, "the Watering- Place," the name by which it is known to the Bedawin of the present day.” and quotes Abu'l-Fida and Al-Dimashqi using the term. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

• Palmer, 1881, p. 167 (= SWP map 9): "Esh Sheriah: The watering-place. This is the modern title of Jordan. The root means also to ´flow straight on or through."
• Palmer, 1881, p. 350 (= SWP map 18): "Esh Sheriah: The watering-place. The Jordan. In literary Arabic it is called Urdunna."

I can only find it in Palmer, not in the Conder and Kitchener books, Huldra (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you @Huldra: I have made a few edits to Jordan River in order to incorporate all the sources we have found in the thread above. Shame nothing ties it to Qasr al-Yahud; it seems the name chosen for the Palestinian UNESCO tentative list was quite generic. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, I really don't understand why they didn't use the established Qasr al-Yahud-name (and I cannot think of another place it could be, than Qasr al-Yahud.) Hmm, did someone not like the name? Palmer 346 says it means "The tower of the Jews", I have also seen it translated as "The castle of the Jews", Huldra (talk) 23:14, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Sadly that was my guess too – i.e. that someone didn’t like the name. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:54, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Irbid Camp Jordan - mistaken year of establishment

Dear Madam/Sir,

kindly note that the date of establishing Irbid Refugee Camp in Jordan is mistakenly published in Wikipedia. According to UNRWA page, the camp was established in 1951 NOT 1967. [ https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/jordan/irbid-camp ] for your kind follow up,

Best, Dina — Preceding unsigned comment added by DinaDahood (talk • contribs) 11:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

User:DinaDahood: Wikipedia (at least English Wikipedia) does not have an article about the Irbid Refugee Camp; could you please tell me what page the wrong info is? Thanks, Huldra (talk) 21:49, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

My guess is Palestinian refugee camps. I will fix there. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:35, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Name: Naharayim or Baqoura?

See here: Talk:Naharayim#Requested_move_4_April_2020, Huldra (talk) 21:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Jewish Virtual Library

Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Jewish_Virtual_Library, regarding our community's view on the reliability of the Jewish Virtual Library (as had been documented at WP:RSPS). Onceinawhile (talk) 22:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Is Ain Jalut relevant to WikiProject Palestine

Two editors have removed Ain Jalut from this Wikiproject by repeatedly reverting the addition of the project tag. Am I the only one here that considers Ain Jalut to be relevant to Palestinian history (see Battle of Ain Jalut)? Onceinawhile (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Wadi Qana or Nahal Qana

Please comment at Talk:Wadi_Qana#Requested_move_7_May_2020. Debresser (talk) 21:50, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Reorganize Wikipedia:WikiProject Ottoman Empire as a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries?

Dear users of this WikiProject:

At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Former_countries#Make_WikiProject_Ottoman_Empire_a_task_force_of_Wikipedia:WikiProject_Former_countries? I have left a proposal to convert Wikipedia:WikiProject Ottoman Empire into a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries. I asked this project (as all or portions of this country was/were a part of the empire) and several other projects to get further feedback. Please let me know if you have questions, comments, or objections.

Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 01:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Removing File:West Bank & Gaza Map 2007 (Settlements).png from articles

See: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Israel_Palestine_Collaboration#Removing_File:West_Bank_&_Gaza_Map_2007_(Settlements).png_from_articles--Bolter21 (talk to me) 10:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Depopulated villages - comments please

I have added a sortable table of the depopulated villages at Talk:List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus#New_table_for_comment_-_DRAFT. Comments would be appreciated before adding it into the article. For example, I would quite like to add a column for "coordinates", if anyone knows how to pull the existing data easily (e.g. via wikidata?) Onceinawhile (talk) 15:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I have added it at the article, and added a clickable map. See List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus. Comments appreciated. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:53, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I have made a similar table and map for their destinations at Palestinian refugee camps... Onceinawhile (talk) 13:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Looks good! Great job! ImTheIP (talk) 01:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

RfC about the reliability of MEMRI

There is an ongoing RfC at the RS noticeboard about the reliability of the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). Your participation would be appreciated, kind regards. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Help wanted: Gaza Sky Geeks

There is a draft here about Gaza's first and only tech incubator: Draft:Gaza Sky Geeks. It's not my page but I've spent some time significantly renovating it and trying to turn it into an article that won't be deleted by the admins. The incubator has received tons of positive coverage in international media but I cannot find enough hard facts about it. Perhaps someone can help? ImTheIP (talk) 03:02, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Women in Red Asian women contest

From 1 October to 31 December, Women in Red is running a virtual contest on Asian women. In November, this will coincide with Wikipedia Asian Month. We look forward to strong participation from all those interested in improving coverage of Palistinian women.--Ipigott (talk) 19:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

RM at Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah incident

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah incident#Requested move 2 October 2020. Lev!vich 04:51, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Maps of Ottoman Palestine

@Oncenawhile:@Zero0000:@Huldra: Greetings. Do we have any basic maps showing boundaries and major towns/villages of the sanjaks/nahiyas of Ottoman-era Palestine? Assuming we do not, what is the best approach to creating such maps? The boundaries were fluid, of course, and the administrative configurations changed significantly through the 400 years of Ottoman rule, so there would need to be different maps for different periods. They would serve multiple purposes, chiefly: (1) an easy reference to give readers the political/administrative/geographic context of a particular Ottoman century in Palestine; (2) a resource for users such as myself to reproduce/edit in order to show zones of control or influence of local potentates such as the Ma'ns, Turabays, Zaydans/Zahir al-Umar and others, as well as to illustrate military situations such as battle sites, army movements, etc.; (3) to show the administrative changes over the centuries.

For the 16th/17th centuries, there are plenty of sources. Among them are Hutteroth and Abdulfattah (which I do not have access to), Uriel Heyd's Ottoman Documents on Palestine, 1552-1615: A Study of The Firman According to the Mühimme Defteri (no access), Harold Rhode's thesis The Administration and Population of the Sancak of Safad in the Sixteenth Century, Dror Ze'evi's An Ottoman Century: The District of Jerusalem in the 1600s, Abdul-Rahim Abu-Husayn's Provincial Leaderships, and a few others. For the 18th century there is Amnon Cohen's Palestine in the 18th Century: Patterns of Government and Administration (no access). The issue is that I have little map-making skills, resources and, increasingly these days, time. I usually rely on the DEMIS map server for base maps, I use Publisher and Paint(!), and add towns, boundaries, etc. based on decent approximations. I just produced this: File:Lajjun Sanjak in Ottoman Palestine.png, based on William Hughes's File:Palestine with the Hauran and the adjacent districts, William Hughes 1843.jpg and info from User:Huldra/HA. It just shows the boundaries of Lajjun in red superimposed on the map, and it looks odd for a number of reasons, not least because the original map itself shows subdistrict boundaries in color. Any help toward creating simpler, clearer maps would be much appreciated and I believe will significantly improve our coverage of the long Ottoman era in Palestine. --Al Ameer (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Al Ameer son: I have a number of such maps. I'll upload the better ones but it will take a day or two. Zero^talk 10:28, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

@Zero0000:, that would be fantastic. I can add them at Cartography of Palestine. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

As an aside, I have been trying to figure out where William Hughes got his information for the 1843 map that Al Ameer linked to. I haven't been able to find an earlier map showing the nahiyahs, but I am sure there is one as it does not seem that Hughes travelled to the area. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Al Ameer son, Hutteroth and Abdulfattah has a map over the different nahiyas in 1596, email me, and I will send them to you, cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Huldra, any idea where Hutteroth and Abdulfattah got their information from? Onceinawhile (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Onceinawhile I assume they drew those nahiya-borders based on the various defters? Huldra (talk) 21:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

I had assumed the defters did not have maps, given Salmon's comment: "In the Ottoman days, a title to a piece of land in Palestine was a very vague document. There was no survey, recording shape, area or position; the description was usually, to say the least of it, ambiguous, and the extent which was the gauge for taxation, was almost invariably falsified to save the pocket of the owner." Onceinawhile (talk) 21:22, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

oh, I think you are right: the defters did not have maps. But Hutteroth and Abdulfattah identified the various locations in the defters, and based on that, they drew a map of the borders between the nahiyas, Huldra (talk) 23:04, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Huldra on this. I doubt if the nahiyas even had official boundaries. About H&A's map of nahiya boundaries, we can't just upload it (copyright) but can we make our own version of it? My knowledge of copyright law is deficient. Zero^talk 00:48, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Note that Van de Velde's maps also show the nahiyas, but not the boundaries between them. The nahiya name is written large and the main town, when it doesn't have the same name, is indicated as a circle with a dot inside. Zero^talk 00:56, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Here is an 1836 map showing the "pashalic" boundaries. It is hard to follow because it is colored according to the Tribes of Israel. There are four types of boundary with their own combination of dots and dashes (see the legend). The "Turkish provinces" are indicated by numbers (see the table in the left margin, they are hard to find on the map). The description at Commons says it was drawn by Samuel Augustus Mitchell. Zero^talk 01:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Zero. This is interesting to see, albeit it has given me a headache trying to figure it out. What kind of masochist would overlay three types of historical boundary in the most subtle manner, and then overlay all the colors of the rainbow... I doubt Mitchell travelled to the region either, so this information must have come from somewhere else. It is the earliest date we have though for a map with the nahiyas... Onceinawhile (talk) 07:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Thanks, I will email you shortly Huldra. Ze’evi also has a map with 16th/17th-century sanjak and nahiya boundaries. As Zero0000 states, copyright would restrict us from uploading these maps, but I think we would be ok to reproduce produce our own from a free base map (perhaps from DEMIS or a different source). If we go the route of creating maps, we should decide on minimum criteria to include, such as sanjak and/or nahiya boundaries, major towns, perhaps major rivers and streams. In the end any map(s) that are created should have utility so that interested users could customize them per a particular article's needs. —Al Ameer (talk) 02:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree with this. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Bank bantustans

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Bank bantustans. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:History of Israel

Template:History of Israel has been nominated for merging with Template:History of Palestine. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

{{refbegin|35em|indent=yes}}

I have added {{refbegin|35em|indent=yes}} to the Biblio-section in Sarafand al-Kharab; before I do more, I would like to hear what other editors think about it? Do you think that got the Biblio-section more/less readable? Comments, please! Huldra (talk) 21:28, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Nakba and exodus

It has been proposed that 1948 Palestinian exodus be renamed and moved to Nakba. See discussion --Maudslay II (talk) 07:45, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Category confusion , help needed.

I recently created Category:Disability in Palestine, then when I added parent categories I found Health in the State of Palestine. Some further digging turned up more of the "X in the State of..." categories, so I moved the one I created to Category:Disability in the State of Palestine. I'm not sure if there is a consistent logical distinction between the "X in the State of Palesine" versus "X in Palestine" categories. So here I am just needing a sanity check please. I'm aware that many Palestine-related topics are on a "hair trigger" as far as the curation/protection of articles are concerned, does that also apply to categories? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

The state observer status of Palestine in the United Nations is recent, so it's likely categories without 'state' were simply made earlier. I do think a standardization would be good. Using 'State of Palestine' as format going forward seems like good idea for eventual consistency. ~ Shushugah (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Another thing

When I (or someone else) get around to starting "Disability in (the State of) Palestine" article, what should the title be? It is one of the aims of WikiProject Disability to create such articles for every country. We hope to turn all the links in the Template:Disability by country navbox blue as soon as possible. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:15, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I have now started Draft:Disability in the State of Palestine, please feel free to contribute. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for this! I will have a look and contribute soon! The naming is right. Though, I expect we'll need to make redirects to the shorter version as well. Shushugah (talk) 22:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Shushugah, I'd really appreciate your input. I've created a few sections following the general pattern of other "Disability in <Country>" articles, but I'm having some difficulty finding good sources. I don't know Arabic so that does limit me to only English publications. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Mass move request for timelines of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

I proposed to rename pages from "Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, YYYY" to "YYYY in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict". Discussion is here. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 21:17, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Golan as part of Israel

Somewhat thought it was clever to post this only on the Israel wikiproject despite it being about an article on Palestine. Actually it is a boring issue that has been gone over many times, but here it is: Talk:State of Palestine#Golan Heights. Zero^talk 05:59, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Dar Yusuf Nasri Jacir for Art and Research

I recently created an article for the Dar Yusuf Nasri Jacir for Art and Research. Any help improving the article would be appreciated. Thank you! Thriley (talk) 15:30, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Ilhan Omar has an RFC

Ilhan Omar has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine Conflict

Hello Wikipedians!

I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia and the Israel-Palestine conflict. I will be looking at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors (that's you!), contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.

If you are an active (or previously active) editor of pages related to the conflict, I would love to hear from you. I would greatly appreciate if you could take 5 minutes to fill out this quick survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdriEAkTQCq5Us26lxEqbjfw4jh3ktqTLaE8FN7fYY7Eph1Fw/viewform?usp=sf_link BEFORE 8 AUGUST 2021.

Please don't hesitate to reach out with any questions, and I am happy to share my findings with anyone who requests it :)

Thanks, Sarabnas (talk) 11:16, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Jerusalem map

We are in urgent need of a new Jerusalem map, the one presently used (like in St. George's Cathedral, Jerusalem commons:Category:St. Helena's Chapel show the places in East Jerusalem as part of Israel. User:Onceinawhile: I have a vague recollection that we discussed this before, somewhere? Pinging User:Zero0000 too, as I suspect you two know a lot more than me about maps, cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested Article - Keys as a symbol.

Right now the link on Nakba for the use of the Symbolic keys are to a gallery of images. I think there may be enough news about this for an article.Naraht (talk) 14:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

requested move

See Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 27 October 2021 nableezy - 19:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Article go to GA

Palestinian_enclaves Any input about WP:NPOV compliance of the article are welcome. Shrike (talk) 09:54, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Al-Kateb v Godwin

I have nominated Al-Kateb v Godwin for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 22:38, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 16:36, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Mount Hebron#Requested move 8 March 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mount Hebron#Requested move 8 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 17:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Levantine Arabic FAC

Levantine Arabic is a FAC and any review would be more than welcome from people interested in the languages of Palestine. A455bcd9 (talk) 10:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:1948 Palestinian exodus#Requested move 30 March 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:1948 Palestinian exodus#Requested move 30 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 21:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Annexation of the Jordan Valley#Requested move 23 March 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Annexation of the Jordan Valley#Requested move 23 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 07:01, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Zionism as settler colonialism

Given that it isn't clearly marked on the major pages on the topic, we could use more editors giving comments and feedback for this new page. — LlywelynII 22:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Edit-warring on Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2022

Talk:Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2022#Recent revert. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 17:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Does the term Al-Aqsa Mosque need disambiguation?

Al Aqsa Mosque (the large compound) vs Al Aqsa Mosque (the small southern building, from where prayers are led)

300,000 worshippers at the Al Aqsa Mosque (the large compound), facing the Al Aqsa Mosque (the small southern building, from where prayers are led)

Please comment at Talk:Al-Aqsa Mosque#Requested move 30 May 2022 - we are in need of editors who have the time to review the sources. Our Al-Aqsa Mosque article is about the small building. The large compound, also known as Al-Aqsa Mosque, is our article Temple Mount.

For reference:

• Al Aqsa Mosque (Temple Mount) is the third holiest site in Islam
• Al Aqsa Mosque (Temple Mount) was the first qibla in Islam
• Al Aqsa Mosque (Temple Mount) gave its name to the Al Aqsa Intifada, and the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades
• Al Aqsa Mosque (Temple Mount) can hold over 300,000 people (note: the small building can hold only 5,000)
• Al Aqsa Mosque (Temple Mount) was recently in the news after clashes between Israeli soldiers and Palestinians: the location of the route is shown here
• Al Aqsa Mosque (building) is an important monument of early Islamic architecture
• Al Aqsa Mosque (building) houses the Imam of the Al Aqsa Mosque
• Al Aqsa Mosque (building) is where the Islamic prayers are led from

Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, what matters most is whether it is highly likely — much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined — to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. It is also important to assess how the term is used amongst scholarly sources - an assessment of this has been provided at the discussion, and it would be good to have it confirmed by editors who have the time to review the sources themselves.

Thank you.

Onceinawhile (talk) 08:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

More editor contributions here would be appreciated. Many thanks. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Name change discussion of Israel and the apartheid analogy to Israel and apartheid

Please see Talk:Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy#Discussion Shrike (talk) 04:11, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Union of Health Work Committees

I noticed the red link when editing about the August 18 raids. A quick search gave me some mostly recent results and many variants in the English name (Union of Health Work Committees, Health Work Committees, Federation of Health Work Committees, Union of Health Workers Committees), so I was wandering if we really don't have an article or if it is hidden under a different name or if we could and should have one. 176.247.153.147 (talk) 01:23, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Israel Antiquities Authority Survey website

The Israel Antiquities Authority Survey website is a useful tool for locating the exact location of archaeological sites and depopulated villages. It provides a bibliography, and good summary information. For example:

• https://www.antiquities.org.il/survey/new/default_en.aspx?pid=13873 This is the link for the depopulated village of Al-Bassa.
• https://www.antiquities.org.il/survey/new/default_en.aspx?pid=9009 This is the link for the depopulated village of Bayt Nuba, showing finds back to Hellenistic times

Onceinawhile (talk) 16:53, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

GAR notice

Bani Na'im has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 05:57, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR notice

Gaza City has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR notice

Haifa has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:27, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikimania 2023 : Singapore, 16-19 August

Wikimedians! You are highly encouraged to apply for travel scholarship for Wikimedia Movement's largest gathering, Wikimania 2023. Wikimania 2023 will happen in Singapore and online from 16-19 August, 2023. There is a pre-conference on the 15th and a post-conference on the 20th. It is back on Asia since Hong Kong in 2013. Application deadline is on 5 February 2023 at 23:59 AoE. Regular registration will happen around May 2023. --Exec8 (talk) Exec8 (talk) 07:42, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Norman Finkelstein

Norman Finkelstein has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Dead Sea Scrolls

Ongoing discussion at Dead Sea Scrolls regarding Israeli vs Palestinian claims on the Qumran area may be of interest to those involved in this project. Jtrevor99 (talk) 02:57, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

We Are Not Numbers

There's an ongoing deletion discussion for We Are Not Numbers, an internationally supported organization that supports the development of writers in Gaza. It has been referenced in various books and academic papers, but I don't have access to most of them. It would be great if anyone who has better access to this stuff to take a look and help determine what level of coverage is present in these sources. Iskandar323 (talk) 05:50, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

recursive categories associated with this project

Posting this here because categories aren't in my normal bailiwick.

In doing something unrelated to this project, I discovered that Category:Dawson's Field hijackings is recursive. If you follow this subcategory path you will end up back at Category:Dawson's Field hijackings:

Category:Dawson's Field hijackings

Category:Black September

Category:Palestine Liberation Organization

Category:Factions of the Palestine Liberation Organization

Category:Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine

Category:Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine attacks

Category:Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine attacks has Category:Dawson's Field hijackings as a subcategory.

Similarly, in the same category tree:

Category:Black September

Category:Palestine Liberation Organization

Category:Military operations involving the PLO

Category:Black September

I suspect that recursion is not desired but will leave it for others to fix if fixing is appropriate.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Also Category:Military operations involving the PLO → Category:Black September → Category:Palestine Liberation Organization → Category:Military operations involving the PLO

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:34, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Al-Aqsa Mosque compound

I have taken the long overdue step of creating an Al-Aqsa Mosque compound page to encompass the full architectural history of Al-Aqsa all in one place. This was not done previously, with there being separate articles for the Dome of the Rock, Al-Aqsa Mosque and Minarets of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, etc., but no single page drawing them all together historically and architecturally. The temple mount page provides some architectural overview, but it is so bound up in narrating the full history of the site and is substructure (so much so that it uses the 'mountain' infobox template, not the 'religious building' one) that it has never done full credit to the actual superstructure. Now there is a page that ties it all together. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:09, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Anti-Arabism

Please be aware that there is an active move discussion at Anti-Arabism. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Anti-Arabism#Requested move 8 August 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Anti-Arabism#Requested move 8 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – MaterialWorks 13:32, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Abu Ali Mustapha Brigades#Requested move 28 August 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Abu Ali Mustapha Brigades#Requested move 28 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:31, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Assistance is welcome at Youth Against Dictatorship...

...to improve this new article! Thank you! — ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 22:38, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Tamer Almisshal

I recently created a draft for journalist Tamer Almisshal. His Facebook profile was recently deleted after he aired an investigation into Meta’s censorship of Palestinian content. I am hesitant to translate Arabic with Google Translate. Any help with translation would be really appreciated. Best, Thriley (talk) 17:09, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Palestine:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 13:34, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Zeitoun incident#Requested move 14 October 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zeitoun incident#Requested move 14 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —Alalch E. 19:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Assistance appreciated. Genocide against Palestinians.

This is a fledgling page and I would greatly appreciate if experienced editors helped to build it! Genocide against Palestinians.

Somebody deleted the relevant images… :( Scientelensia (talk) 21:19, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:NPOVN

There is currently a discussion at WP:NPOVN regarding an article that may be of interest to this project. Experienced editors are invited to join the discussion here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:30, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Nakba denial

I have created a page on the subject of Nakba denial - a topic of some weight in literature on the historiography of the Arab-Israeli conflict. I have barely scratched the surface of the available source, having prioritized the most readily accessible ones. There may very well be some gaping gaps, not least in that I don't have access to any of the best Ilan Pappé material, so haven't been able to directly quote him. More eyes welcome. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

"Huge NPOV Fail" lol. How come that every time someone creates an article shedding light on anti-Palestinianism, people immediately try to get it deleted or merged? —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 19:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:March 2010 Israel–Gaza clashes#Requested move 13 October 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:March 2010 Israel–Gaza clashes#Requested move 13 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — MaterialWorks 15:08, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Israeli permit regime in the West Bank

An editor has requested that Israeli permit regime in the West Bank be moved to another page, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. GnocchiFan (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Talk:List of Islamist terrorist attacks#Should Operation Al-Aqsa Flood by Hamas included in the list of Islamist Terrorist attacks?

An editor has started an RfC asking "Should Operation Al-Aqsa Flood by Hamas be included in the List of Islamist terrorist attacks?" at Talk:List of Islamist terrorist attacks#Should Operation Al-Aqsa Flood by Hamas included in the list of Islamist Terrorist attacks?. Interested editors are invited to participate. TarnishedPath^talk 23:09, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Interest in coordinating university-based editing event

Hi, I'm an academic, and I have professional networks that I would be interested to leverage to potentially coordinate an editing event this fall (early November 2023). The event would be a virtual "editathon" of sorts—an intro to Wikipedia editing for scholars and students of media and the Middle East who might be interested in contributing to this Wiki project and articles about Palestine. If you would be interested in helping coordinating or contributing to such an event at the planning level, or participation level, would you please get in touch with me? Jackie.salzinger (talk) 09:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Anaheed al-Hardan

If anyone has any sources for Draft:Anaheed al-Hardan (esp. non-English), it would be much appreciated. Levivich (talk) 05:42, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/21

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/21. Your contributions would be appreciated. Historyday01 (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

RfC re Al-Shifa Hospital

Please be aware of an ongoing RfC. Alaexis_¿question? 12:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Pallywood article references

I've posted list of references to the Talk:Pallywood page for anyone willing to make updates. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 22:49, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Disinformation in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 14 October 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Disinformation in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 14 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Polyamorph (talk) 19:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

RFC at Re'im music festival massacre

There is an RFC in progress at Talk: Re'im music festival massacre concerning terminology. Participation is invited. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Post-Zionism

The page Post-Zionism is a disaster of a piece of content at present. It's almost wholly unsourced, could potentially be a personal essay, and the only sources are some op-eds, not scholarship. It's so dysfunctional that it borders on a WP:TNT case, but I thought it might be worth flagging it as a doer-upper first. Iskandar323 (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Proposed mergers at Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis

Editors have proposed merging the articles Kidnapping of Hersh Goldberg-Polin and Kidnapping of Noa Argamani into 2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis, which are of interest to this WikiProject.

You are invited join the discussions at Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis § Proposed merger and Talk:2023 Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis § Proposed merger 2.—Alalch E. 17:40, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Oday Dabbagh

I have opened a discussion on this page about the best way to describe the birthplace of a person born in the Old City of Jerusalem. Please take part if you can. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

December 2023 - Deletion Request

Hello! I'd like to bring your attention to the page titled "Qatari support for Hamas". I've noticed that a new separate page has been created for the 2023 Israel-Hamas war/Hamas, using the name "Qatari support for Hamas". I believe that there is no need for a separate page on this particular topic. Additionally, the content appears to be copied from other pages (Hamas) and contains defamatory statements about the party involved and misrepresents the facts {For Example: No mention in the US and Israel role in foundation of Hamas office in Qatar}. The page is currently protected, and I don't have the necessary editing or deletion rights to address these issues. Therefore, I kindly request your acknowledgment of this matter and consideration for putting the page under speedy deletion review. Latvia1 (talk) 05:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Christmas in Palestine

Most Wikipedia articles on Christmas tradition ignore modern Palestine and Palestinians. A fairly knowledgeable friend of mine asked about Christians in Bethlehem and she sounded honestly surprised to hear they are Palestinian. Irtapil (talk) 16:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

"Hamas film" 'The Great Liberation' unable to be found

On Cinema of Palestine there is a claim by Israeli news outlets that Hamas has made a film called "The Great Liberation" describing the destruction of Israel. The original link didn't work so I have since updated it. However, I cannot find the film that the articles are referencing and believe this may just be fictional. In which case, the claim should be removed. I am wondering if anyone could assist me in finding said film or advise me in whether or not to remove the claim. Aidanyoung1406 (talk) 00:36, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, it's called a video rather than a film in this Ynet article [3]. They even had it embedded but the video no longer works. Also, even though they clearly describe the same thing, they say that the video is titled "The Great Occupation". Alaexis_¿question? 21:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Actually i think i saw something different, mine was done in a kind of fairy tail style, hard to describe, but that photo - "Tel Rabia", the former Tel Aviv, is "occupied" in the Hamas video - that looks more realistic. But this sounds more like it describes a student film or portfolio piece? Not party propaganda? Irtapil (talk) 16:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm I think I might have seen that, it's only about 15 minutes long. I think there are a few copies of it on Arabic language YouTube. I am far from fluent in Arabic, but it's by visual. I don't think it's "Hamas" as such, but that's just a hunch. I think Israeli media just uses that label for anything they don't like? Irtapil (talk) 16:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Killing of Alon Shamriz, Yotam Haim, and Samer Talalka#Requested move 18 December 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Killing of Alon Shamriz, Yotam Haim, and Samer Talalka#Requested move 18 December 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — mw (talk) (contribs) 20:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

The page Temple Denial seems weird?

I found three wiki pages that "don't seem right" but they are about an issue I don't understand, so I wanted to point them out to some more knowledgeable peoples who might be able to assess it better and fix anything that needs fixing.

Currently i am fairly confused by the Al-Aqsa / template mount dispute, two or three different sides seem to disagree about what is where, and what call it, making the story very hard to follow. But in my attempts to with it out, I found these three.

Al-Aqsa mosque seems to refer to a different place to where most news stories about a place called "Al-Aqsa mosque" are about. As far as i can gather this is one of the prayer halls in a large mosque complex and the whole complex is called Al-Aqsa mosque? The intro sort of explained that, but the pages possibly needs to be moved to give it a less confusing title? Like "Al-Aqsa mosque prayer hall" or such?

I but the bigger thing is i found this weird poge Temple Denial. It seems to tell a rather one sided story, but I'm really not familiar enough with the issue to critique it. And I'm not sure where to find any of the standard templates to put on it for possible bias or such? I'm not sure if it is biased, it just seems to be telling a weird story, and only one side of it. And the "dinialism" language seems hyperbolic, given that's usually used for things like climate change or the Holocaust.

Also, I have heard of the event this is about but I have never hard it called "1990 Temple Mount killings" that euphemism seems a bit inappropriate, and if we're going to pick sides on whose name for the place is used, I don't think that's the right side for a massacre? Irtapil (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Irtapil I had a look at the different articles you linked. I opened a discussion to merge Temple Mount and Al-Aqsa which both refer to the larger compound. I am confident that Al-Aqsa Mosque and Temple denial should remain as its own article. I added Jewish Temple denial as a redirect, in case that clarifies. The name What is your concern with the naming of 1990 Temple Mount killings? The guiding principal here is WP:ARTICLENAME which refers to common names in media. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Western Wall

Western Wall has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:April 2023 Israel rocket attacks#Requested move 5 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:April 2023 Israel rocket attacks#Requested move 5 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposed merge at Talk:Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war#Merge proposal (5 January 2024)

There is a proposed merge discussion at Talk:Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war#Merge proposal (5 January 2024) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. JM (talk) 23:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Re'im music festival massacre#Requested move 6 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Re'im music festival massacre#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Siege of Gaza City#Requested move 6 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Siege of Gaza City#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:33, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Looking for Project volunteers to answer some questions

I am writing an article for WP:SIGNPOST, Wikipedia's internal newspaper and am looking for 2-4 WP:PALESTINE volunteers, both longer term and newer members. Feel free to directly add your answers on Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/WikiProject report and let me know if you any questions/comments. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:16, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Sexual and gender-based violence in the 7 October attack on Israel#Requested move 8 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sexual and gender-based violence in the 7 October attack on Israel#Requested move 8 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Killing of Ahmed Yassin#Requested move 10 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Killing of Ahmed Yassin#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Holit massacre#Requested move 10 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Holit massacre#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Nir Yitzhak massacre#Requested move 10 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nir Yitzhak massacre#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Houthi involvement in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 12 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Houthi involvement in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 12 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Philadelphi Route#Requested move 14 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Philadelphi Route#Requested move 14 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Battle of Zikim#Requested move 16 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Battle of Zikim#Requested move 16 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Looking for a coach/trainer in Wikipedia editing

Looking for experienced coach to take an eager pro-Palestine group to become regular and serious Wikipedia contributors. Thank you. samisawtak (user_talk:samisawtak) 17:04, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

‘Palestine’ v ‘State of Palestine’

The articles e.g. for France, China, and so on have the titles of the countries in question, rather than ‘French Republic’, ‘People’s Republic of China’, and so on. Palestine links to a disambiguation page; these in turn link to the pages for the Palestinian National Authority, State of Palestine, and so on. A number of other pages’ titles include ‘State of Palestine’, including Economy of the State of Palestine, List of churches in the State of Palestine, Demographics of the State of Palestine, and so on.

I can think of two reasons to use the term ‘State of Palestine’.

1. It may be more accurate to refer to the ‘State of Palestine’ since it is a state. But France is a republic, and yet most articles about France do not include ‘French Republic’ in their titles; and so on.

2. It may disambiguate ‘Palestine’ from e.g. the whole region within the British mandate and so on. But we don’t do that e.g. with India.

In some cases it does clearly make sense to refer to the State of Palestine explicitly: e.g. History of the State of Palestine could be regarded as the history of Palestinian statehood, and the page is quite distinct from History of Palestine, but not all of these examples are analogous.

Given this, I have a few questions.

1. Has this been discussed before, and, if so, where?

2. Is there any policy that obviously suggests one option or the other?

Docentation (talk) 00:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Yasser Arafat

Could an Arabic-speaking contributor take a look at this, please? —Upwinxp (talk) 09:30, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Having problems creating an article on the cultural and intellectual destruction of Palestinian heritage

Hello.

Yesterday I created the page Cultural and intellectual destruction of Palestine, but it was readily deleted because i didnt match the extended confirmed status required in this contentious topics. I have more than ten thousand edits in the lusophone wikipedia, but i had just over 400 here. Since then I made an effort to acquire the extended confirmed status, and then i requested the code from the page in the Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. At first, an editor rejected my request, but they didnt seem to have read it with attention, since they supposed I was asking for the restoration. In the second time, I asked explicitly for the userfication of the content, so I could access the code, but this time another user reverted my edit. I just want the code of the page, and it seems that some users are creating unnecessary impediments. Another user even intervened in a discussion I had with the admin that originally deleted the page, just to say that "Such pages just create problems for readers and editors..", which doenst seem to be a productive interaction at all.

So I would like to ask for some help here on how to navigate these rules, with which I not familiarized in pt wiki. I really just want the code, because it would be an unnecessary waste of time to make it again from scratch. Thanks for the attention. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 17:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

You gamed the system. You can wait some more. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

After a lot of effort, i was able to access the data. Strangely, it seems that it could been have sent to me earlier, instead of posing all these unnecessary hurdles.

The article is disponible in my drafts - Cultural and intellectual destruction of Palestine.

If anyone desires to propose changes or improve it, feel free to approach me. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 17:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it's worth starting an article about the cultural and intellectual destruction in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? You are free to write about any topic you like of course, but it would make sense to have a general article and then, if there is too much content there, to create sub-articles for the destruction wrought by each side.

Also, I see that most of the article is based on just one source, I think it would be good to find more sources for a balanced coverage. Good luck! Alaexis_¿question? 21:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

My intention was to register the pattern of destruction that amounts, for some activists and researches, to a cultural genocide, so it would not make to frame it as 'Israeli-Palestinian conflict'. it could have more sources, but to delete every trace of it in Wikipedia is not a good approach for improvement. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 00:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

That's not a neutral point of view, so your desire is against the purpose of Wikipedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

You can find something else to do now. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 04:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Have no fear, I have plenty of time to keep an eye on you even while doing many other things. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Please help improve the following articles

Requesting collaboration to improve the articles List of terrorist incidents in the Palestinian territories, List of terrorist incidents in Israel in 2022, and List of terrorist incidents in Israel in 2024 , which are all currently being considered for deletion, in order to make sure that these articles align with Wikipedia guidelines. I believe that all the major issues brought up in the deletion request could be addressed and fixed if we work to improve these articles collaboratively, especially considering the precedent of similar articles existing for various other countries on the English Wikipedia. Your expertise and contributions are highly valued. WikiJunkie (talk) 14:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident#Requested move 29 February 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident#Requested move 29 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Palestinian people by descent

Your comments are appreciated at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_7#Category:Palestinian_people_by_descent.--User:Namiba 00:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Artists4Ceasefire

Dear all

I've just created an article for Artists4Ceasefire, any additions are very welcome.

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 11:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:United Nations Conciliation Commission#Requested move 7 March 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United Nations Conciliation Commission#Requested move 7 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Killarnee (talk) 23:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Help and feedback needed

I'm working on Draft:Israeli drone bombing of Palestinians in Khan Younis and I'd like some help and feedback as I'm new to Wikipedia. Thank you. Citizenfoo (talk) 14:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at UNRWA October 7 controversy

More feedback is needed Talk:UNRWA_October_7_controversy#Requested_move_29_March_2024. Alaexis_¿question? 21:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus#Requested move 2 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus#Requested move 2 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Iranian Strikes in Israel#Requested move 13 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Iranian Strikes in Israel#Requested move 13 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Iranian strikes in Israel#Requested move 14 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Iranian strikes in Israel#Requested move 14 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2023 Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip#Requested move 11 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2023 Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip#Requested move 11 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:State of Palestine § Copy editing/maintenance needed

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:State of Palestine § Copy editing/maintenance needed. Sdkb ^talk 18:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Weaponization of antisemitism

There is a requested move at Weaponization of antisemitism that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Mistamystery (talk) 22:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Could someone help me locate a source for a quote attributed to Ghassan Kanafani?

I have added a quote by Ghassan Kanafani to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Palestine/Selected_quote/5, but I cannot find a source for it. I think it's highly likely that this quote was actually said by comrade Kanafani, considering the style is almost identical to other writings of his, however finding a source for it is very challenging for me as I don't know Arabic.

Thank you very much. 37.99.32.24 (talk) 19:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Palestine (region) lead image

I'm not sure I'm convinced about the lead image at Palestine (region). I've noted my concerns and would welcome community input at Talk:Palestine (region)#Main image. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Are there good Palestinian sources about Yehudit Karp (lawyer)?

I think what I found in English is enough to establish notability, but I am not happy about some of the sources and am looking for something higher quality. FortunateSons (talk) 09:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

depopulated Palestinian villages

Hello, the entries mentioned in List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1947–1949 Palestine war, List of villages depopulated during the Arab–Israeli conflict and Category:Villages depopulated during the Arab–Israeli conflict and other articles also in other languages do not have unified/appropriate properties in wikidata, about 20 out of the 600~ depopulated villages are clearly marked as such in wikidata, others are left as instances of "human settelment", "village" or "former human settlement", and with inconsistent (or non-existing property for) location, country ...etc, and a few have the properties relating to the timeframe of their depopulation. wikidata is still lacking/behind in some "technical" level such as describing the former population. But those still require consistency and inclusion of missing properties.

Adding apropriatly consistent properties to the remaining hundreds of items as this is disregarded/underacknowledged information is vital for any general attempt for reflection/contextualization that is genuine. Uwe a (talk) 09:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

"United Nations Security Council Resolution 338" article

I'm looking to try to improve this article, since I saw it was the current Collaboration of the Month. It seems like it hasn't been edited by anyone since 30 March, 2023. I've already started cleaning up the article's lede section, but I could use some help if anyone else is interested. Professor Penguino (talk) 08:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Israel-Palestine and Indigeneity

The concept of Indigeneity is often invoked in contemporary discourse on the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, but I don't see any article on the subject. Palestinians are often referred to as "Indigenous" by pro-Palestinian advocates and likewise Zionists often claim that Jewish people are "Indigenous" to the Land of Israel. I think there should be an article, but I'm not sure what the title should be. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 01:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

"Claims of indigeneity in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict", maybe? Professor Penguino (talk) 08:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for help

I am making articles on Faculty for Justice in Palestine and USACBI (yet to make the stub). Please help me make them stay and expand! Thanks! Noopur28 (talk) 21:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Will do. Professor Penguino (talk) 08:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Developing Countries WikiContest

Starting this July, we will see a new contest on the scene - the Developing Countries WikiContest (WP:DCWC)! Think of it as a WikiCup but only for articles and media on developing countries.

Competitors may submit GAs, GTs, FAs, FTs, FLs, FPs, and DYK and ITN entries from/on developing countries to gain points and proceed to further rounds. Points are also awarded to those who review GAs, FAs and FLs.

Palestine is listed as a developing country for the purposes of this contest, so articles related to it are eligible to be submitted for points. I encourage everyone here to sign up and compete with editors from around the world to create high-quality content!

Append your name to the DCWC signup page today!

Best wishes, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_{my edits}) 11:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 16 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 16 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 09:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 09:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Anyone speak Arabic?

Hi, there's a new editor (Bluebellwoodland) that's been waiting more than a week for someone to deal with their edit request over at Talk:Omar Ferwana, a Palestinian doctor. Any chance anyone here speaks Arabic and could give this editor some feedback about their proposed changes? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

new article: Pro-Palestine University Activism

Hi, I added a new article today but it went to drafts and wikipedia says I need to contact a WikiProject if I need to speed up the publsihing.. Can someone help? Sorry I am new here.. Scriptese (talk) 22:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad you decided to join Wikipedia! I'll give it a look. Professor Penguino (talk) 04:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 05:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Genocide of Indigenous peoples has an RfC

Genocide of Indigenous peoples has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Dylanvt (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Israel has an RfC on the topic: mention apartheid in the lead?

Talk:Israel has an RfC. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. starship.paint (RUN) 05:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Ussama Makdisi

I just created a stub for Palestinian American historian Ussama Makdisi. Any help with expansion would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 20:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Palestinian Territories

Since when was the term Palestinian Territories used? Please comment in this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel#Requested move 4 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel#Requested move 4 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Requesting assistance editing Ohio State University protest article.

I recently created an article detailing the college protests at Ohio State University. After this article was made extended-protected, I lost my ability to edit the article because I do not have EP permissions. Substantial details are missing from this article, so until I regain my permissions, I have been adding suggestions to the talk page of this article. But no one has been implementing my suggestions on the talk page, despite the fact they are supported by multiple sources and add significant missing details from the article.

If members of this community could please visit the talk page of this article and implement my requested changes, this would be deeply appreciated. Thank you!

Onlineone22 (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza#Requested move 3 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The section is "Three options".

FortunateSons (talk) 10:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Feedback: Regional history of the Negev

Hi,
User:Alaexis has asked me to draft something on the agricultural history of the Negev. Since there is no comprehensive history of the Negev that would have been necessary for this (and since the short sections on the history on the Negev page do not align with current research), I have now drafted a regional history of the Negev with a stronger focus on land use. Alexis thinks the page is ready for promotion to the mainspace. I am unsure for two reasons which are noted on the draft page. Would anyone like to give some feedback on this? DaWalda (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Manual of Style

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#"Modern-day Israel" vs. "Palestine" when only for reader geographical reference, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs) 15:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

An RFC of interest

Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#RFC - Gaza Health Ministry qualifier. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight

There are two discussion occurring at Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Haifa and Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Unconditional surrender at Haifa: gross misrepresentation discussing whether the article should be edited to further cover the opinions of Benny Morris. Editors are invited to participate. TarnishedPath^talk 06:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

An RFC of interest

Please see Talk:List of genocides#RFC - Inclusion of Gaza genocide. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 24 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Palestine

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Should we use the unrelated image of a peasent family in Ramallah, or the flag of palestine, or a watermelon? Thoughts? 48JCL 23:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

See ongoing edit request for the template, linking to this discussion. Tule-hog (talk) 21:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Watermelon: The family is hard to recognise as Palestinian, and a flag isn’t ideal. A symbol would be good, e.g. as in Template:WikiProject Japan or Template:WikiProject Canada. The watermelon works well, as it is related to the flag, but also brings some creativity. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Watermelon: Seconding the watermelon. That was my favorite thing to see on Wikipedia:WikiProject Palestine. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs ★ rights) 15:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Kinsio and Onceinawhile thank you for your opinions. The WikiProject banner has been changed to resemble the palestinian symbol. 48JCL 19:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Flag: I don’t support the watermelon; it makes no sense if you’re not already invested in Palestinian politics and is kind of deliberately obtuse (reminiscent of Vivian James or the iconography of the Boogaloo movement). There is nothing wrong with a flag (Wp:India uses a flag) especially when it’s an instantly recognizable and unambiguous symbol of the country; a cartoon watermelon might as well represent Wp:agriculture or wp:plants Dronebogus (talk) 23:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Flag: Why is the flag not ideal @Onceinawhile This looks cheap and amateurish now. nableezy - 21:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Flag: per standardization and WP:NPOV - Tule-hog (talk) 20:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Also in line with {{User WP Palestine}}, which uses the flag. Tule-hog (talk) 21:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Actually not sure WP:NPOV applies to WikiProject content... It is in the main namespace, but I'm not sure that qualifies as 'encyclopedic content'. Regardless, standardization holds. Tule-hog (talk) 02:10, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps because this is a banner which displays on article talk pages, WP:NPOV does hold for this particular entity? Splitting hairs, but if there is relevant policy to be linked, that'd be appreciated. Tule-hog (talk) 02:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Restore the flag, there was no consensus to change it to watermelon. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 00:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I think its fair to say there was consensus in favor of the symbol at the time 48JCL made the change, in-as-much as there was WP:SILENCE on the part of other opinions. 🙏 - Tule-hog (talk) 01:07, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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RM:'Calls for the destruction of Israel' to 'Calls for the dissolution of the State of Israel'

An editor has requested that Calls for the destruction of Israel be moved to Calls for the dissolution of the State of Israel, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. إيان (talk) 05:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Templates

Created two discussions over recently-created templates: Template talk:Hamas history and Template talk:Palestinian leaders. Please feel free to engage. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)