User talk:Anna Frodesiak/archive46

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Pre-RfA opinion page

Hello Anna, what became of your proposal? Six years ago, we started a similar idea at Wikipedia:Vetting process, which got pretty far, but didn't ultimately catch on. (That page probably should be marked as "historical" now.) It was used in a different context in South Africa - see User_talk:Bobbyshabangu#Vetting. — Sebastian 14:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Sebastian. Wikipedia:Vetting process is interesting. I did not know it existed. So, what happened? Well, see User talk:Anna Frodesiak/archive41 and search "Ouch". :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

It's so long ago that I don't remember much; you can see the details on that page. Off hand, I remember being surprised that (a) not many people signed up as candidates and (b) some of the candidates reacted very sensitive or defensive to the feedback they received. — Sebastian 15:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Sebastian. Well, considering those two things, I'm glad my village pump post ended where it did. Thanks for letting me know about this. I can now put it to rest in my mind. :) Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:06, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, best wishes to you, too, — Sebastian 08:53, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Muzaffar Khan

Hi Anna, regarding article on Muzaffar Khan, I was trying to improve the article when you deleted it. It is obvious that the original contributor was not used to contributing an article, so instead of showing the external links as sources, she put it in the body of the text. That is just a minor mistake, and not a deliberate infringement of copyrights. Could you please give me some time to improve the article?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exodus 5555 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Exodus 5555. Copy pasting from multiple sources is not a minor mistake. Now, are you Anamzaman93? Are you associated with Anamzaman93 or Muzaffar Khan? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:53, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I have read this author's book and happened to be improving the article when it was deleted. I feel that pages should be improved by new users, not deleted without helping them. Give me a chance to improve the page. Happy to talk by skype if you would like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exodus 5555 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

The article was created 13:24, 21 June 2015 then you register an account 20:15, 21 June 2015 and find that article and work only on and no other article. I have trouble believing that you are unrelated to the subject or Anamzaman93. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:11, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

It is unfair to call another user a liar on the basis of coincidence. I have offered you both my LinkedIn page and a skype call to show you that I am unrelated to this person. This is not the level of impartiality that I think is reasonable on your part.

I am just trying to improve an article. Instead of helping me, you are just making accusations. I think that is unfair. Why don't we work together and you teach me how to improve the article? I think that is the more productive way of moving forward.

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exodus 5555 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I am not calling you a liar, Exodus 5555. I am saying that I am very, very suspicious. When a new user registers an account, 6 minutes later finds an article that is newly created (7 hours old), works only on that, then pushes for it when deleted, it is highly likely that the user is either the subject, a friend of the subject, working for the subject, or is a sockpuppet of the creator of the article. So, how about another article. You are a new editor here, there are lots of things to work on. How about something else? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:44, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Anna, you are just calling me a liar in other words. You haven't changed your mind about the veracity of my statements. This issue is a matter of principle. I have, on a Sunday night, in good faith, asked for your help in improving something. Yet, instead of helping me, you just are fixated on being suspicious.

This is despite the fact that I have given you my LinkedIn profile, offered you to speak on Skype, and asked you to right a wrong. Is it not in the spirit of Wikipedia to correct information, not suppress it on the basis of a technicality? Why will you not help me rather than suppress an article? You're obviously a senior person, so please help me in the spirit of fairness.

I have read this book a few years ago and went to a lecture by Mr Khan when he came to our university at Imperial College. Even though he is a Pakistani Muslim, Mr Khan has done a lot of philanthropic work in my native country, Latvia. That is why I am also passionate about this article.

I have copied and cleaned up the article, putting in the references properly. If I send it to you, could you please put it up?

The principle is that new users should be encouraged to share information, not browbeaten with subtle accusations and suspicion. That is the principle I am asking you to honour as a senior officiator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exodus 5555 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I am not calling you a liar. Do do that, I would have to be certain. And my suspicions are justified. Plainly, you have known about Khan for a few years and you found his article 7 hours after it was created and have edited nowhere else. Anamzaman93 contested the deletion with '"...which is now used as a course book by the Stockholm School of Economics in Riga, Latvia. ..." as his/her first point. (I am curious how you know Anamzaman93 is a she.) Nowhere in the entire article is Latvia mentioned. Now you, at this talk page say "...has done a lot of philanthropic work in my native country, Latvia..." My suspicions are well-founded. I think there is a connection between you and Anamzaman93 which would either constitute sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry, and you are pushing for this article because you wish to promote the subject.

I will ask another administrator to weigh-in. Maybe assuming good faith is in order here, and this twice-deleted article should be prepared as a draft via WP:AfC, and maybe not. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:59, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I just looked at the deleted content. I do not think undeleting it would at all be beneficial. Maybe Muzaffar Khan does meet Wikipedia's standards of notability, but that article didn't show it; its references were all either unreliable, not independent of Khan, or passing mentions that didn't cover him in any detail. Even without the copyright issue (which on its own precludes undeletion), the article would have been unsuitable for Wikipedia, and it should have been rewritten in its entirety, with practically all-new references. Basing a new article on that old one would be more of a hindrance than a help in writing an appropriate article about Khan. Exodus 5555, I'd suggest you use the Article Wizard to write a draft that adresses not just the copyright problems but also the reference issues I pointed out, and submit it for a review by an experienced editor. However, if you merely resolved the copyright issue without fixing the rest, the article would quickly be nominated for deletion again. Personally I rather doubt so much has changed in the last half year that we'd come to a different assessment of Khan's notability. Huon (talk) 23:47, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Huon. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:10, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

About Sung Ling Mansion

It is not an ad. I am living in the building and hope it helps others to know more about this old building. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.143.131.28 (talk) 07:13, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I will reply at your talk page: User talk:Kimakihk

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:20, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

From Fabrice Delaneau

Dear Anna,

Why did you delete my page? Warm regards, Fabrice Delaneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.183.147.69 (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Delete the page

Dear Ana Could you explain exactly what should i do to make this page less advertorial. Thank you.

Fabrice — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabrice Delaneau (talk • contribs) 09:49, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Fabrice. Well, just follow what is said at your user talk page. Learn what it is for and what should be there. Basically, telling the world what you specialize in and naming lots of websites just seems promotional and like you are using that userpage to make a "profile" about yourself with no intentions of helping Wikipedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:04, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

reply:Juliana Jendo

OK thanks.I'd like to do some work on her article first-Cartamandua (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

From Murarband Darbar Sharif

How Can i Create a good article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Murarband Darbar Sharif (talk • contribs) 10:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Murarband Darbar Sharif. Do you mean a Wikipedia:Good article or an article that is just good in the normal sense?

By the way, I posted here about your persistent addition of that content. You are welcome to give your views there too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

(stalking) You don't need to write a GA, you just hob nob with Dr. Blofeld and he writes it for you ;-) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I thought it was the other way around ;-)?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:06, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Priyashahthematchmaker

Just a quick head's up, I have unblocked this user as they gave a valid username complying with the policy. I've given them a very stern heads up that any repeat of the promotional edits will result in a reblock. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:03, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

You are very kind, Ritchie333. I'll keep an eye on her contribs. Thanks for letting me know. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Hebei University logo 01.jpg

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SpamUserPage

About your comment at WP:VPT#Special:RecentChanges: I'd be happy to help you get SpamUserPage working. :) I spent a good few days writing it, and there are still bound to be bugs, so it would be a shame if unfixed bugs stopped people from being able to use it. I've just copied over your common.js and monobook.js, and it still worked for me, so the problem isn't anything in those. Perhaps the bug only appears in a specific browser - what browser and skin are you using? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, Mr. Stradivarius. Chrome and Monobook. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

I just tried it in Chrome with your common.js loaded, and it worked ok for me. Here's what I saw. If you browse to User:Example, do you see the "delete and block" tab that I circled in red? (It might be in a slightly different location depending on which of your gadgets loads first.) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 18:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Mr. Stradivarius. Yes! I see that. :) The dropdown menu wasn't there, but the tool is visible now. Sayyyy, would it be possible to make that appear in the left side tools box? That way I wouldn't have to side scroll to find it (unless there's a super-side-scroll hotkey for chrome). Musikanimal's tool appears in that box for me. It is a nice place to have it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I've added an option to the gadget to change the location of the menu item, and I've changed your common.js so that the gadget appears in the Tools menu. While I was at it, I also changed your "Spam-only account, username violation" and "Spam-only account" presets to use your custom template at User:Anna Frodesiak/Cuw-soa-block, as I remembered that's what you said you wanted on the user scripts talk page. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:26, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Mr. Stradivarius, I used it and it's great!!! It is a perfect companion to MusikAnimal's tool because I won't have to change options for soa or spamu. One for each. Now, the only thing is that the tool sits low in my tools box on the left side of my page. I'd like to move that whole tools box above both "interaction" and "navigation" boxes. A user at IRC suggested this, but it doesn't seem to do anything. If you could, please give it a try at my js or css or whathaveyou pages for this account. I'd be very grateful. Thank you again! Snazy tool! A real time-saver. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah, it worked. Toolbox is now at the top. Last things:

• The toolbox has a bunch of duplicates. Can they be removed?
• The searchbox is now way down there. Can that be right under the toolbox?

If those two things can be sorted out, I'm in heaven. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Ok, should be done now. Also, you have two new gadgets, User:Anna Frodesiak/deletedcontribs.js and User:Anna Frodesiak/toolsfirst.js. Plus I got rid of the RFPP Helper gadget, as that's done by a bot now. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Mr. Stradivarius, it is absolutely, phenomenally, wonderfully fantastic. Just perfect!!! Thank you sooooo much. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Please close this CfD

I nominated a category for deletion, and since it gained only one vote after a while, I relisted it after a week. However, now that the last page in the category has been deleted, it is now empty. Unfortunately, I can't nominate it for speedy deletion under C1 because it does not apply to categories currently being discussed at CfD, so could you close the discussion and delete the category? See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 23#Category:Unsourced BLP Deletionist Wikipedians. Thanks! Gparyani (talk) 18:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I did not get to it in time, Gparyani. I am happy to see it has been resolved. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:02, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much...

...both for your support at my RfA and for your congratulatory note. I hope I shall do them both proud. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:22, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:28, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Nature's bounty

	Happy National Ceviche Day (U.S.)
	Enjoy the bounty of foods that nature provides. North America1000 23:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC) See also: List of food days Source:

From Freeda alnazar

Hi Anna i am a model and actress in china. my name is Freeda Hanni Algryani. User:ChinaMedia has made a wikipedia page about me. However how on the page it says you have requested for deletion. below is the 'google' of china and as you can see when you search for me in chinease, you can see all the information about me winning '2011 Miss Capital China'

below is one of the TV shows they have invited me to attend as celebrity

and i am currently model of DIVA modelling and MMG talents. well known modelling agency in dubai, UAE.

it would be great if you can look into the sources i have sent you and reconsider about the deletion. chinamedia has contact me and asked me to message you as a prove that im a 'real person'

regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freeda alnazar (talk • contribs) 06:11, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

References

Hi, Freeda alnazar. Sorry for the late reply. I am out of town. We must allow the debate to happen. Others will give their views. Thank you. Anna F remote (talk) 09:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

An article you deleted via AfD consensus has been recreated

Could you please delete Toitures Du St Laurent Ltd as a G4 recreation of Toitures Du St Laurent? I've also submitted the account who created this to SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nopirosyadi. This has turned out to indeed be paid editing, and there are way more socks involved. Gparyani (talk) 20:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Subsection Thailand Talk Page

Please look at my message to you on the Thailand Talk Page. Wagner Johns (talk) 04:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Wagner Johns. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Ufhnews (Continued promotion on user talk page)

You recently banned Ufhnews (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), and he's taken to continuing his promotional activities on his user talk page. You may wish to assess whether his ability to edit his talk page should be removed. [1] ~ Rob^Talk 11:10, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Rob. If he persists, I will do so. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Jellyfish as food

Edible jellyfish prepared with sesame oil and chili sauce

Seeking editors to assist in bring this to at least WP:GA, and preferably WP:FA eventually. A popular food in China. C'mon now, collaborate! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:08, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Thank you. I occasionally eat the stuff. It is not bad. It is almost like those clear noodles. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Dry ice

• I've never had the food yet. Therefore, you must 1) purchase some for me in prepared form, so I don't have to rehydrate it, prepare it, etc., 2) have it professionally packaged in dry ice, and 3) shipped via 24-hour express delivery to my address, which I will only provide by email. Got all that? Then I'll microwave it, making the food even more rubbery. Thank you in advance for your consideration. (Ha ha!) North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Got it! A gigantic tub of the stuff is on the way. I had to pay extra because the delivery guy said it would stink up his van. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! The dry ice works as deodorant. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:58, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but avoid using bars of dry ice as an underarm deodorant. That would be a huge mistake. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Raw jellyfish in the U.S. state of Georgia prior to being dried, preserved and packaged. After processing, the product is sold to a seafood distributor that ships them to Japan, China and Thailand.

• I didn't get the tub, but at least I can check one out on Wikipedia (right). Fin. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

We can indeed! Thanks to your good article. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

id:special:diff/9592166

Can I ask why you delete/remove other people conversation bellow that section on Indonesian wikipedia?--AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 19:00, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, AldNon. Oh, my goodness! I'm terribly sorry. I have no idea how I did that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:02, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

No problem :) I notice it was report about crosswiki spamming, thank you for your report. Please do notice us if this hoax page happening again or make a report to m:Stewards and m:Global Sysops on m:Steward requests/Miscellaneous if the spam/hoax pages happen on small wiki with no local admin.--AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 19:05, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, AldNon. Wow, we have global sysops. I never knew. Yes, thanks for the good advice. As you see, I have tried to fix my mistake. I hope I got it right. Sorry again for removing that content. I still do not know how I did that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:09, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Why my info was deleted

Please let me know why my info was deleted. Its all about my introduction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahidskt (talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Shahidskt: I explained at your talk page. I see you have now put back some of the content at your userpage. What is there now is alright. Please do not expand it much more and please do not promote yourself at Wikipedia. Also, I see you have put the same content at your user talk page too. That is not the place for that. It is best if you remove that talk page content. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:02, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Shahidskt

Just to let you know that their userpage is back, and also on their talk page. —George8211 / T 19:51, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, George8211. Okay. Thanks for that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:02, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

From PeterKane123

Excuse me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeteKane123 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, PeteKane123. Please read WP:UPNOT. Reading your user talkpage more closely, I must actually delete that too. No more using people's real names and using Wikipedia for free webhosting, okay? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:34, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Visualizing the scale of the solar system

Hey Anna,

Based on an earlier question of yours on WP:RDS, I thought you might be interested in this: If the Moon Were Only 1 Pixel - A tediously accurate map of the solar system.

Cheers! -- ToE 17:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi ToE. Thank you so much! Actually, That, or another very similar link, was posted somewhere in that thread. Thank you just the same. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Ha! It sure was (posted by Vespine). I hadn't followed his links at the time, and the link to this "Moon Only 1 Pixel" graphic led me to erroneously believe that it was new. Oh well. Cheers! -- ToE 22:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm still grateful. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Neat page. What if the moon were only 1/2 a pixel, though? North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:12, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I think I've found the answer: this and this. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:21, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

User Page Deletion

Dear Anna. I saw that you have deleted my user page. Could you please advise on what is acceptable ? I am happy to narrow down my profile description.

Many Thanks- Hassan Bencheikh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassan Bencheikh (talk • contribs) 13:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

user page deletion

Dear Anna. I saw that you have deleted my user page. Could you please advise on what is acceptable ? I am happy to narrow down my profile description (Hassan Bencheikh (talk) 13:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC))

Hi, Hassan Bencheikh. Please read WP:UPYES. I would like to ask, though, are you just here to have your profile at your userpage? Are you here to edit articles also? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:03, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Reply

I am so sorry but I didn't understand your regulations. I have reduced the size and content on the user page. I really hope that you will find it satisfactory. User:Hassan Bencheikh (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:53, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Hassan Bencheikh: It was almost the same and I have deleted it again. It looked exactly like an article, about you. So, you did not yet answer my question: Are you just here only to have your profile at your userpage? I am curious if you are here to edit articles also? Here is the reason I ask. If you are a good editor who contributes, then a bit of a lengthy userpage about yourself can be acceptable. But, if you just want to make a profile about yourself and leave, then a couple of sentence is all the community here really accepts. You have not edited the encylopedia itself, but instead have just made a page about yourself that looked like an article, that is not acceptable. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:26, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

HELP!!!

hello Anna, I was wondering if you could help me with getting started on making an article. I am an artist who has a huge passion for art, I would like to create an article where I could download paintings and pictures I have created as well as be able to have a talk page so I could get feedback on my work and discuss with others art topics. Is this possible to do and if so how. P.S thank-you for your offer to help, it was greatly appreciate, I look forward to hearing from you soon.Jimbojunior (talk) 13:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)jimbojunior

HI, Jimbojunior. I would love to help you get started. What sort of article? An encyclopedia article? What would the title be? If you wish to have an article about yourself or your artwork, there would have to be notability. How about an arts article unrelated to you?

If you would like to discuss articles about art topics in order to improve those articles, then you could visit Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts and ask how you could get involved. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank-you. Jimbojunior (talk) 14:00, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

From Jimbojunior

hello Anna, bet you sick of me now Lol. well either wikipedia is extremely complex or I'm just being thick. Think maybe as you would agree its most probably the latter of the two but Im not a computer wizz like you. I have done changes you as suggested but am still struggling on the chatbox Templates and what to do there. Have tried using help but just ended up confusing myself even more. Please help!!!........again, sorry to keep bugging you. Jimbojunior (talk) 08:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC) @Jimbojunior (talk) 09:22, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sick of you, Jimbojunior. I am happy to help. Wikipedia markup is hard to figure out. I suggest forgetting about all that userpage setup stuff. Why not just do some building of the encyclopedia? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:40, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

From Thubalami Dube Homy Beez

hey you deleted my article, i spent days working on that article. so how can i recover it??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thubalami Dube Homy Beez (talk • contribs) 08:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Thubalami Dube Homy Beez: Do you want me to give you a copy of it? It can be an article if it passes WP:42. Otherwise it cannot remain at Wikipedia nad you must just make a copy for your computer at home or somewhere else. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:40, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked spam account

Hi Anna, You may want to consider disabling this account's ability to edit its talk page: [2]. Thanks, 2601:188:0:ABE6:3CF7:E4A2:6CC5:354F (talk) 09:22, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for letting me know. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

My pleasure. Cheers, 2601:188:0:ABE6:3CF7:E4A2:6CC5:354F (talk) 09:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Business Rules Group item - permission

My company owns www.BRCommmunity.com. We hold the copyright to the piece on "Business Rules Group" I want to submit to Wikipedia: http://www.brcommunity.com/b806.php.

I'd prefer not to include a "copyleft" notice on BRCommunity.com. I do want to submit the material to be freely used (and edited) on Wikipedia such that Wikipedia has no residual obligation or liability to my company or BRCommunity.

Can you please tell me exactly what form or declaration I need to submit to do that?! I've spent several hours trying to figure it out ... and I am as confused as ever.

Thx

Also, I hope the Wikipedia copy I created can be resurrected. I'd sure hate to have to create it again!! Will you let me know how to do that? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonaldGRoss (talk • contribs) 02:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, RonaldGRoss. First, where at Wikipedia do you wish for the content to appear? An article? Your userpage?

As for your userpage content that I deleted, please do not create it again for the reasons I explained at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Enough is enough. You've just recreated your userpage with your webiste. I've blocked you indefinitely. Any further discussion should take place at your user talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Miss Heritage International for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Miss Heritage International is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Heritage International until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. The Banner talk 13:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Socks?

Re: User:Jamie-Burk User:Cottycrimge et al. Please can you add User:Cartman-killer to the list. Theroadislong (talk) 07:54, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I will, and I think it's time for an SPI. Thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:57, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

error made

hello anna Frodesiak, in response to you question regarding my article, I wanted to include on the "On This Day" page but have seen that I have made an error. I thank-you bringing this error to my attention.Mr-roland-rat (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

That is okay. I am happy to see you trying to be constructive. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:35, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Your user warning about bad user pages seems a bit too direct

The user warning you place when you delete someone's user page because it meets criterion U5 doesn't really seem at first like you assume good faith:

I have deleted your user page. It is intended for basic information about yourself or your Wikimedia-related activities. Although a lot of leeway is allowed in personalizing your user page, it is not a personal website, blog, or social networking medium, nor should it be used to promote yourself, or host a fake article, CV, or lengthy biography.

Please do not be offended, and please feel welcome here. I encourage you to help build the encyclopedia. If there is anything you ever need, just ask. Best wishes,

The first paragraph seems a bit too direct and "in the face" of the user, and it makes them feel like they've done something wrong. While this may not seem like a concern initially, I have seen cases where users have complained severely about being slapped with the "vandal" label after merely receiving a warning. In other words, it sort of violates the policy of assuming good faith and not biting the newcomers. Also, the second paragraph asks to "just ask", but most newcomers don't know how to ask (either by using your talk page or using Template:Help me).

In my opinion, a better warning to use is this:

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate you trying to get started editing Wikipedia, and we hope you stay. However, please be mindful that the purpose of your user page is to explain your Wikipedia-related activities and to briefly tell us about yourself (a limited amount of biographical material about yourself is permitted in user pages), and it should not be mistaken for a free web hosting service, neither should be used to promote yourself or host a fake article. Unfortunately, your user page didn't meet the guidelines for user pages, so I have deleted it for now. Please be sure to read the guidelines for user pages, and particularly, the section covering what you may not have in your user page.

If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, feel free to leave a note on my talk page. Best wishes,

See my point? Gparyani (talk) 17:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I see your point. I like your version. Maybe stalkers could give their views here to help come up with the very best version. I'd sure like to see the word "profile" in there. So many new users come here with the sole intention of making a "profile" at their userpage with no intention whatsoever of editing the mainspace. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If I may offer a contrarian POV, one of the things I've always liked about Anna is her directness. She's never ambiguous and it's hard to misinterpret anything she says. I realize that everyone is different, and some people dislike the direct approach for whatever reason, but I'm not one of them. Viriditas (talk) 20:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I too see nothing terrible about Anna's version. It is direct, but I cannot discern any biteyness or rudeness to it. Anyone engaging Anna in discussion would become immediately aware of her good nature and tolerance to newcomers. Irondome (talk) 21:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you too! Wow. Great thread. Glowing praise. :) But, maybe I should soften that template. Hmmmmm.... Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Irondome: I prefer softer approaches, generally. Did you see the link to the talk page of the user who complained about being "slapped with the vandal label"?

• Yes Gparyani, your approach was very good. The new user seems a reasonable person, but I accept that some of our cautionary stuff can be confusing to new users. But it depends also on the attitude of the new user to see the underlying rationale behind what is being said. I don't think it would scare off the majority of newbies who wish to stick around, and are willing to learn the ropes as it were. Your proposal is interesting. It's just a matter of tone. Quite subtle. Irondome (talk) 21:49, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Gparyani (talk) 21:34, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) (edit conflict) I'm fine with Anna's version, although I'm not opposed to Gparyani's suggestion. I've seen many of these "user pages" and I prefer a more "direct" approach when dealing with them. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: I see your point, but sometimes users make generalizations based on first impressions, which is taken into account when designing user warnings per the guidelines outlined at Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings. Gparyani (talk) 21:34, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

These generalizations that you speak of tend to be culture bound. This discussion seems to be a classic example of cross-cultural differences in decision-making and communication. In western cultures, a direct approach is preferred, whereas non-western cultures may prefer an indirect method. Viriditas (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Anna I believe is of Chinese heritage, whereas I am from the U.K, with a Jewish heritage, which also culturally tends to be rather direct. Yet we seem to agree on a rather direct although not unpleasant initial approach. Yet this does not seem to correlate with the article you linked to. Interesting stuff. Irondome (talk) 02:19, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Anna is a Westerner who lives in China. Direct and indirect communication styles are discussed in the above article in the context of high- and low-context cultures in the third paragraph of the section titled "Cross cultural variances developed as a result of differences in values, beliefs, and philosophies". I'll copy it here below:

The individuals from high- and low-context cultures also differ in their communication styles. The former prefer the less direct style, and thereby they are less explicit in stating their feelings, desires, and intentions when communicating verbally. The latter, on the contrary, are less likely to camouflage their message and conceal their intentions.[9] The culturally normative communication style also enhances people's responsiveness to the transmitted message and influences the perception of the communicator. It has an impact on hiring decisions. HR agents in low-context cultures are more likely to hire direct, assertive, and somewhat aggressive candidates, whereas the reverse pattern is observed in high-context cultures.

This kind of thing comes up all the time in Hawaii, where I live, so I'm very aware of it. I had to deal with it just last week. Viriditas (talk) 02:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Will revisit the relevant section. It has been my understanding that Anna is of Chinese heritage. A trouting is in order if I have been incorrect for four years! Simon. Irondome (talk) 02:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

If you're interested, Susan Cain takes an altogether different perspective on the western approach in her book Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking, which I highly recommend, and frankly, should be required reading for anyone interested in different styles of communication. Viriditas (talk) 02:46, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: I disagree. I'm an American, and I prefer the indirect method. Besides, I'd like to see Wikipedia policy upheld everywhere, unambiguously. Let's try not to stray from the topic at hand; let's keep it on-topic (about Anna's user warning). Gparyani (talk) 03:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

As the links above show, Americans as a culture prefer the direct method, and on the English Wikipedia, Anna's message is considered normative behavior, so your disagreement, while interesting, is culturally out of step. My link to Quiet, however, shows disagreement within the culture itself, particularly in regards to introverts and extroverts, who have different communication strategies. I don't think this strays from the topic, rather, I think it gets to the very heart of it. Also, cultural assimilation, whether desired or not, may take multiple generations. Immigrants, for example, may retain primary elements of their culture over, let's say for the sake of argument, two generations. When I lived in San Francisco, there were some immigrant groups who retained their language and culture over multiple generations without ever assimilating as "Americans" per se. As you can see, this is far more complex than this space allows. Viriditas (talk) 03:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Rather than over-analyze culture and communications norms, let's look at this from Wikipedia's point of view. All of our rules and cultural norms are written in WP namespace and are easily accessible. Anyone who wants to be part of this community need only read that guidance. Although I desire to AGF, I imagine that anyone who creates an advertisement of a user page has deliberately not read or not adhered to that guidance. Anna's current boilerplate message is clear, concise, and I think really soft-pedals the issue. Again, Gparyani's suggested change is fine but it's only more namby pamby language for what I dare assume is willful ignorance of WP:UP and WP:NOT on the part of our new editors. We have so many poor excuses for editors on this website already and some among us seem infinitely willing to cater to these outsiders that almost certainly aren't here to contribute. Let them file a hurt feelings report and return to Facebook. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I guess my real interest in this discussion is trying to understand Gparyani's POV. I've followed Anna's contributions from the beginning, when I first saw her editing in the Hawaii-related topic area. I have to say, I have never encountered a more polite person on Wikipedia, so to see her accused of being indirectly rude or "too direct" is a bit of a shocker to me, and obviously, that is the case for others here as well. That's why I tried to approach this from several angles, first from the cross-cultural POV, and then from the introvert/extrovert perspective. Viriditas (talk) 04:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: I see your point. However, I see two flaws in your argument. First of all, WP:AGF is an official behavioral guideline, so we should always try to adhere to it whenever possible. Second, if a user is willfully choosing not to adhere to the user page policy, they'll most likely recreate the page after it is deleted, at which point a stronger warning can be used; the same logic is used in the four-level series of standard user warnings (e.g. Template:Uw-vandal1 to Template:Uw-vandal4 and all in between, plus Template:Uw-vandal4im). (Note, however, that my big argument about adequately warning users about not meeting the criteria does not apply in one case: if the user is advertising (i.e. not a U5, but rather a G11). In that case, the existing behavior of blocking with Template:Uw-spamublock is fine with me; in fact, I like Anna's condensed version of that template better, but I can't find the link to it.) Gparyani (talk) 05:30, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Let's compromise: User:Anna Frodesiak/Red sandbox

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:13, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

That's a good thing to do, as I'd rather not see this discussion continue on for too long, as it appears to be digressing into unrelated topics. I'll look at it, and propose changes to your compromise by editing that page. Gparyani (talk) 05:30, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. If you do not like my version, please paste it to version 2 rather than modifying it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you all for the concern, feedback, and kind words. I am sorry that I stayed out of the discussion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

From User:Rberchie

Thanks Anna really grateful for your observation will read more and take my time too regards.--Rberchie (talk) 11:06, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome, Rberchie. And thank you for the response. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I am really grateful for your follow up edits they are very educative to me and I am learning from them regards--Rberchie (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_foods

Can you edit this page to show that Jell-O is Utah's official state snack food? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.105.184 (talk)

Please wait till tomorrow and I will have a look. I am sorry to make you wait. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

i need help on uploading a wikipedia article i created for this other artist.

hie anna may you kindly help me out or guide me on how to upload a wikipedia article. i just did my first article.

I have just blocked this account from editing. Please log in to your original account User talk:Thubalami Dube Homy Beez. There you can read what I have to say. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Half Barnstar
	For allowing a non-admin to assist you with your admin-related work, even if he/she disagrees with you at first... Gparyani (talk) 05:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I love it! That's my first half star. I will keep it in my collection with pride. It was a pleasure working together. :) And of course I encourage everyone to assist me. Being an admin doesn't mean I don't need assistance here or there, or that I know more. It just means that I am trusted not to break anything. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind

Hey Anna, it's been a while since we talked, how are you? I added a short story on my user page in which you're mentioned multiple times, hope you don't mind! Cheers, Jim Carter 18:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yeah, I see. I also praise her for her niceness, and for that I will shower her with barnstars and WikiLove respect her talk page and help her more. I'm sure she won't mind, plus your story will serve as an example to some other admins (especially those aggressive ones)...

I think she's taken an example from Jimbo Wales, who I know has been very nice on-wiki despite his "grand authority". (I guess that's why there's a drawing of Jimbo on her user page?) Gparyani (talk) 19:24, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. And yes, Jimbo is very nice on-wiki. As for his "grand authority", well, note the crowns in that image. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jim. I don't mind at all. You wrote nice things. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Killing of Cecil the lion

Hi. I notice you have made edits to the Cecil article. One editor continues to remove any mention of Palmer, merely citing "BLP". Palmer self-identified as the killer, and his name is published in hundreds is sources. As an admin, do you think this BLP assertion has merit? Thanks, WWGB (talk) 07:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, WWGB. That he is alleged to have done it is widely published. However, there is the claim that he has self-identified, so what are the sources saying that? These are are issues for the article talk page. I suggest reading WP:BLPCRIME, as that may be a helpful policy. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I see you posted at Talk:Killing of Cecil the lion after the link Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive226#Killing of Cecil the lion had be given. That is where you should discuss things and you have not posted there. And I cannot help lobby for the inclusion of his name. That is a content dispute. If there is a breach of policy, then I can act as an administrator. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I wasn't seeking intervention, just interested in your opinion as an admin. Cheers, WWGB (talk) 11:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

But what is the difference between my opinion as an admin and my opinion as an editor in this case? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:05, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

It's ok, don't worry about it, sorry I bothered you. WWGB (talk) 12:20, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

No, really, I do worry, and it's no bother. I may be missing something obvious. Please do answer. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

OK, sorry to be snippy. I thought it was OK to include Palmer's name due to the wide publication of his name. Red Pen of Doom kept removing his name, citing "BLP". I noticed that you had been editing the same article and had an understanding of its content. As an admin, I thought you would have a better knowledge of WP:BLP than either of us, so I asked you which of our two positions was closer to Wikipedia policy. If you considered that Red Pen was on the money, then I would have backed away as I was wrong. I was looking for guidance on the interpretation of WP:BLP. Regards, WWGB (talk) 12:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

You weren't snippy at all. No need to apologize. You registered 12/7/2006; 90271 edits, User:TheRedPenOfDoom registered 11/4/2007; 122400 edits, and I registered 11/15/2008; 89207 edits. You two should, and probably do, know policy best. You wrote "As an admin, do you think this BLP assertion has merit?". That felt like asking me to side with you in a content dispute. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Standard Offer

Hi, I was banned from creating BLPs in a January consensus, six months ago. As of Standard Offer, where an admin "open a thread at an administrative noticeboard", can you do the same for my account? RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 11:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Please let me look into it. I'll be out of town for a few days, then a few more after that, so my time is a bit short, or I will be on slow computers. If this is urgent to you, please select a different admin. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:16, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

SO doesn't need to apply here - since Royroydeb is not blocked, he is welcome to appeal his topic ban at AN himself. Yunshui ^雲_水 12:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Yunshui. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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RfA section

I'm trying to decide whether to be ensnared by the RfA and noticed you moved to oppose. Did you intend it to be at the bottom of the page? It won't be counted as an oppose there. Johnuniq (talk) 04:20, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Johnuniq! A million off-pedia distractions here today plus the coffee just isn't working. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:35, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: Conflict of interest

Thanks for your comments, Anna. Just to clarify, I'm an independent scholar who has studied medical tourism to Malaysia for the last decade. I have no affiliations/conflicts of interest with the bodies promoting and developing medical tourism in Malaysia. Yesterday I realised that the wiki for the topic was really underdeveloped so I added a lot of information based on not only primary but also independent secondary sources. Happy to make whatever edits are necessary to ensure that the posting fits the guidelines -- this is my first wiki experience so I'm learning. Meg ormond (talk) 08:20, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello Meg, and welcome! The best plan is for you to post what you wrote above at Talk:Medical tourism in Malaysia#Possible conflict of interest and the community can give their feedback. Best wishes and again, welcome. I'm always here if you need me (except not so much for the next week or so, but still here). :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:52, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hi there :) just to clarify, is promotional content allowed on a userpage? I understand with the above account it was kinda obvious what was going to happen. Thanks for your help Samuel Tarling (talk) 23:25, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Promotional content is not permitted. I did not delete the entire page because it was a user talk page that had posts by others. I simply removed the promo text and placed a block notice. Normally, if others have not posted at the user talk page, I will delete the entire thing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:28, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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Nudge, nudge

Sorry to bother you, but I wanted to remind you (heheh) that Kaliti Prison is very close to DYK status and needs only a very minor expansion in text. :) Viriditas (talk) 03:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm, it's just that the sources are pretty weak and I can't find anything more sources to expand it further. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Have you looked at all of the sources used in the Zone 9 bloggers article? There's also a bit about the prison in the sources over at Eskinder Nega. Viriditas (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

No, but I will. I'll check both. Please feel free to expand it yourself if you wish. I'm a bit prisoned-out, so I may not do it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Talk page for Sugar Template

The talk page for the Sugar template, still is linked to the American band. I don't know how to fix this, can you? Wayne Jayes (talk) 07:33, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you kindly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:37, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Andy DiGelsomina

Hi Anna, is this a notable topic now? I have prepared an article, but I noticed he had one a couple of times and it got deleted. I know he hires big names in Rock to work for him, plus his project is here on Wiki in two different articles. I ask because it's been over a year and a half, and the project and he look notable. I could be wrong. 19:20, 15 August 2015‎ User:Gobubsgo

Hi, User:Gobubsgo. I am guessing you are Andy DiGelsomina. If you show me the new article, I'll take a look. I cannot find it when I search. If it is not at Wikipedia, please create it here: Draft:Andy DiGelsomina. Add all the good sources you can find.

I see in the history of the deleted Andy DiGelsomina article, around a dozen accounts registered for the sole purpose of promoting Andy DiGelsomina. This means they are either all or mostly the same person, but more likely there is off-Wikipedia collusion to promote the subject. Not a great thing.

Here are some important things to read about:

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• Wikipedia:Your first article
• The plain and simple conflict of interest guide
• Peacock and weasel words
• Reliable sources
• Original research

Convenience links:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy DiGelsomina
• Andy DiGelsomina, deleted 3 times: 2009, 2010, 2014 (by me)
• Farsi article for Andy DiGelsomina

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A kitten for you!

Thanks, it just seemed like too much trouble. The guy asked me if I would start a page for him, but even he wasn't sure he was notable enough for wiki. I told him your answer and he laughed and said "yeah that's me, UN-notable Andy!" :)

Gobubsgo (talk) 01:08, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the kitten, Gobubsgo! I hope you don't mind, but I restored the discussion. I like to keep threads for the record. Anyhow, I hope Andy gets very, very famous and we can have an article about him. Keep looking for good references. If there aren't enough, call newspapers and mags and bug them to do interviews and stories about him. Then, a Wikipedia article is possible. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Sonny Boy

What is the significance of this phrase. I know boy is usually a denigration but I never knew Sonny Boy had racial undertones? Educate my ignorance please! Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:44, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Hell in a Bucket. Nice of you to drop by. :) How can I educate you? You are not ignorant. I can only give an opinion:

"Sonny boy" contains "boy", so that's a strike against it. "Sonny boy" was used in older times when Afro-anyone was considered inferior. It contains "sonny", which refers to the person as "son", younger or lesser, and the speaker as father, older, greater. That's what it sounds like to me. And you?

Also, if you want to find out for sure, just select ten all-African-American bars. Go in and loudly say to the fiercest-looking person "Hey, sonny boy, got change for a ten?" I await the results of that statistical survey. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:13, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker): The significance of adding the "sonny" should be obvious when considering that slaves were called "Uncle" (e.g. Uncle Tom's Cabin, "Mammy" (Cf. for instance Gone with the Wind), "Sonny", and other such derogatory faux-kinship terms in order to denigrate and patronize them. It's all part of the culture of paternalism/patronization, which quickly became ridicule, denigration, and slur after the Civil War. Softlavender (talk) 02:40, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)"Sonny boy" in my father's time (born during the depression) was a term of endearment. At times it was a family name for a son who was Junior to his father's Senior. My grandparents called my dad that when he was a kid, and at times still as an adult. The backs of my dad's his photographs from before he went into the service as a teenager contain, written in my grandmother's hand, "Sonny Boy" to identify who's in the photo. Not a racial slur, no connotation of anything relating to skin color. Beyond my own family, it was actually a nickname for a lot of young men growing up during that time period. Sonny boy was also interchangable with "Sonny Jim" (perhaps you've heard of the peanut butter brand with the same name?) I don't know the age of the person who used the term in reference to Malik, I don't know his background, but could it be at all possible that he didn't mean it at all in the manner it was taken? People come from all walks of life in Wikipedia - terms of anger, hatred, love, endearment, fondness, etc... they vary from country to country, region to region, etc. Such terms don't necessarily mean the same thing to one as they do to another. So...now that I've rambled on that subject, I want to move on to this: Anna Frodesiak, you have been my "hero" admin to look up to since you intervened in a situation at my talk page back in early April. This [3] just made me appreciate you all that much more. You hit the nail square on the head, said it like it needed to be said, and hopefully, it will ring true to the person for which it was intended. I've never found any guile in you and trust when you say something that you are doing it for the best of reasons and purposes. I hope Malik will see it that way and things will "mend". You are a good - no, a great - admin. Your post on his talk page only proved it further. Sincerely,-- WV ● ✉ ✓ 04:03, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

No offense, Winkelvi, but I'm guessing that neither you nor any of the people you mention there are black. Thus these attempts to whitewash the situation are off the mark. The editor in question was very much aware of who Malik is and what his racial, ethnic, religious, and political background is, and that was very much meant as an insult. Attempting to read it as a term of endearment or anything else neutral is just crazy. Softlavender (talk) 04:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Was never really exposed to racism as a young person just something we werent taught in my family so sometimes I get surprised I always thought it was condescending but didn't know the back history thanks. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 04:40, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

No offense taken. That said, my personal feeling is that race is read into way too much today. And if you are thinking I'm not a person of color, you'd be wrong. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 05:05, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, I didn't say "person of color", I said black. So I'm still not enlightened on that score; and of course "sonny boy" means something entirely different to non-black non-white communities, and of course from whites to blacks it is always racially charged. But I'm glad no offense was taken. :) Softlavender (talk) 05:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Winkelvi. Thank you for the very kind words. I'm sure "sonny boy" has been used without negative connotations and the opposite too. The questions... Did the editor certainly mean it as a racial slur? (Who can know for sure?) Should we assume good faith? (Tough call.) If not deliberately racist, is "sonny boy" still highly antagonistic similar to "Easy sport..." and the like? (Oh yes! Really strangleworthy.) How should it have been handled as a person, a person of colour, an admin, an admin of colour? How should the community's response have been responded to?

I'm often a lousy judge when there's a lot of variables to consider, but I would bet few people in a survey would tick the box that says: You should swear at the person then colleagues, flip-off the entire community, and storm away forever. A better box may be: Stop. Point out the racial slur to the editor and community. Be patient. Be strong. Never, ever, ever, ever let two words from someone's mouth or 13 minutes of people not rushing to my defense change my life. Nobody will ever have that power over me. No way. That would be a better box, I think. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:45, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

To me, a somewhat similar situation would occur if an editor I was in dispute with said, "Now, honey baby, you are flat out wrong." Those words would have a different meaning if they were spoken between individuals who had an intimate relationship but words said to a stranger? It is overly familiar, patronizing and inappropriate. It puts the speaker in a superior position, as if they are talking to a child or someone of lesser intelligence or experience, someone that they are trying to calm down. If you add terms of racial disparagement and this situation of paternalism gets even more insulting. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:30, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Liz. I totally agree! And that kind of term is so often used to make the other person lose their cool. Adding a racist element can test one to their limit. Malik found his. His userpage is that of a really nice, smart person. I only wish he had avoided the bait and taken the higher ground instead. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:57, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I think one can't view this one instance in isolation, Anna. I have only done minor edits in the I/P area but I quickly saw the abuse directed towards Malik on a regular basis, in edits and especially in edit summaries. He also removed a lot of racist comments and innuendo on articles involving African-Americans and African-American culture so he saw some of the worst trolls on a regular basis. While the Sonny boy comment is terrible, he has handled much more aggressive insults in such a professional manner (for years!) that I have to think this was the straw that broke the camel's back. And considering that he was often working as an admin in areas where he had little or no backup support, I think one might come to feel isolated and unappreciated. The one positive element to this situation has been seeing the support Malik has received in the wake of this incident. I hope that if he returns to Wikipedia as an editor or admin, there can be more eyes on these articles so he isn't the only one facing these trolls, who love to push editor's buttons to try to get them to react. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 10:55, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Liz, I'm wondering if you would consider posting what you just wrote on the ArbCom Request page. I think it would shed a unique light on the situation wherein some folks don't have a lot of that context with which to view it. You may have felt that your own involvement (as clerk, but not in this case) in ArbCom might somehow tend to preclude that, but I think right now it would benefit all concerned to read and have that information, in exactly the way you expressed it. Softlavender (talk) 11:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

A fine suggestion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm never anywhere near the I/P area, so I haven't seen the abuse, but of course I believe you. Thanks for letting me know about this. If he returns, I hope there's a huge support group of regulars who join with Malik so he won't be alone in this area. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Willacy county photo request

You asked for a photo of the Willacy county, Texas, for-profit prison. Here's one taken the day of the riot. I don't know what the rules are for using commercial photos, but perhaps you do.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/2/23/Texas-prison-riot.html Activist (talk) 03:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello Activist. Unfortunately the bottom of the site says "© 2015 Al Jazeera America, LLC. All rights reserved.". Pity. It would be a good pic. Thank you for the link, though. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I think the next step for me is to use a sat map to find a small, nearby airport and write to them requesting an aerial photo. I'd say I have a 35% chance that way. Not bad. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	You've been doing good work. I'm sorry you've been experiencing nastiness from other editors. StAnselm (talk) 09:14, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Don't worry about the nastiness. The user simply misunderstands. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

You're clearly are some kind of saint - nothing justifies the type of language this user has been prepared to employ. Blessings! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 13:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you too, Kevinalewis. :) But I'm no saint. This morning I spun one of my hamsters round and round because she was biting her husband in the stomach. A true saint would have given her a good dressing down instead. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:33, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Possible COI editing or undisclosed paid editing

The article FlightAware (note: external linked to prevent listing on that page's Special:WhatLinksHere) appears to me like an advocacy piece or advertisement instead of an encyclopedia article. This style of writing in a primarily positive tone, and the format, as well as the fact that most of the references are self-published, have been associated with conflict of interest editing and, more notably, undisclosed paid editing (e.g. Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Morning277). Also, I see that it's mostly IP editors and new users who contribute to the page, which also has been picked up in other paid editing cases. Can you do some investigation (or call in the right people to do so) to check if this is indeed undisclosed paid editing, COI editing, or if it is just separate, unrelated users doing this? In any case, could you please rewrite it in a more neutral tone? (I added two maintenance tags to the page to indicate this, and they haven't been removed. At best the paid editors (if they are) are smart enough since the modus operandi of paid editing cases is widely known, but it could just be the last case, that there is no paid/COI editing going on.) Thanks! Gparyani (talk) 00:44, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

You certainly may be right. You are welcome to remove poorly cited or promo content. You are encouraged to raise the issue at the article talk, pinging regular editors to the article. As for paid editing, it is hard to prove. You can ask them to be up front, for what that's worth. I really don't want to rewrite the article. I loathe for profit companies. I'm also a lousy writer. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:30, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Brunch in China?

Do people do brunch in China? If so, the new List of brunch foods could use more entries reflecting this. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Dim sum

• I found out that Dim sum qualifies...(sourced in list article). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:19, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

No brunch. At exactly noon, and not a second earlier or later, everyone in the entire country eats lunch. Same with 6pm. It's like a national moment of silence, except that nobody is silent while they eat and the moment takes 12 minutes. :) That said (stop me, trout me, or block me if I ever write "that said" again), dim sum does go rather late into the morning. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Interesting, and thanks for the reply. That said, feel free to improve the article if you'd like. ciao! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:36, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Former good-faith user is becoming offensive to administrators

In Special:Diff/677913514, a user with whom I've had good experiences with before, seems to be telling administrators otherwise. In other edits, he's been telling administrators to "fuck off" and that "you guys are terrible people". I'm thinking I should start an arbitration case. Can you help me? Gparyani (talk) 01:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

I hope there are simpler ways to handle this. Also, there are many editors (including admins) who are watching this user and who know the history well. Consider contacting them for guidance. I would be one more player in the mix, and that could complicate things. That said, if this user really crosses the line, I will take action as a duty. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:20, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Do you have diffs where he said those offensive things? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:31, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Fresno pepper

An article that you have been involved in editing—Fresno pepper —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Falconjh (talk) 13:06, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Falconjh (talk) 13:06, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:36, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Match found

Remember a previous discussion about pics? You needed a "matching" pair for this pic. Well, I just edited an article where one existed! ;) Seriuosly, I know none of these is good enough, seing the pic just sparked a memory. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 22:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi W.carter. Thanks for finding that. I actually remember that pic. The funny thing about those is that they look like photo negatives to me. They're so dark. Also, they're a bit creepy. We really, really need a resident sketch artist at Wikipedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:36, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

File:ChineseBullMarket.jpg

Hi Fred. I'm thinking of nominating File:ChineseBullMarket.jpg for deletion. Is there any reason why not? It seems to fail Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria #8: "...Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding..."

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:42, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Seems to fit the criteria quoted. Boosting of the bull market by The People's Daily shows the atmosphere prior to the Chinese stock market crash. Keep in mind that The New Yorker has no copyright in it. User:Fred Bauder Talk 00:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Fred. I'm not sure about this. The second part of #8 says ...its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.... Would it? Also, although NYT doesn't have copyright, someone certainly does, right? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Someone in China originally drew it. It could possibly be replaced by quoted text from The People's Daily touting the "bull market," but that too would be fair use. Please read the New Yorker story to help understand the significance of the information. User:Fred Bauder Talk 09:26, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Generating a usable quote from the People's Daily commentary presents translation problems. User:Fred Bauder Talk 09:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Fred. I've read the article. Fair enough. Sorry to have been a bother. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:31, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Sepia prashadi has been nominated for Did You Know

• Thanks for creating the new article. I slightly expanded it, which qualified it for DYK. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:59, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!!! Nice hook too. There's nothing much unique about this species that I could find, but if I do, we can consider a change in the hook. Cheers! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:12, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

If said info. is found, add an ALT to the nom. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I will indeed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

By the way, when I said "nice hook", I was trying to be encouraging and I was also happy that the hook is concise, and, well, a notable fact. If the term "underexploited" could be replaced with "abundant" or something, that would be better, but may not be true to the source. It's just that "underexploited" does rub me the wrong way. Viriditas hits the nail on the head when describing the term as an "...archaic, outdated..." It's 2015 and people still see "resources" (aka plants and animals) this way? Humans are soooo toast. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

There are more sources on line. Try bing.com. We should be able to find a less controversial hook. Let me know when you do. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

For starters, I changed the word used in the hook to "underused". North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:39, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

After I slightly expanded the article, I have proposed an ALT at the nomination. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:47, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

And I've given you a passing grade. {:<{)> Best to you all. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:40, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Points:

1. ALT1 is true of any cuttlefish. Shouldn't the hook be a fact that makes the subject special?

2. "Image is ... clear at 100px." The cuttlefish would be very upset if it knew its camouflage isn't fooling anyone.

3. "twixt"???? Why not use between instead of the name of a chocolate bar?

4. Isn't there some fact we can dig up for an ALT3?

5. Thank you from me and the cuttlefish for this DYK.

6. How about "...has a tentacular club?"' Super-short, intriguing, ambiguous, makes you want to click it.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Anna, I was twixt and tween close paraphrasing. Use what you want.

As to quibbling over the Alts, I think you need to keep your eye on the doughnut and not the hole. Getting successfully through WP:DYK quickly and in one piece is THE GOAL.

Since I think it would be unreasonably anthropomorphic to think that cuttlefish READ AND USE WIKIPEDIA (what are the chances they have an internet connection?) I'm not too concerned about their feelings. I am sure that they would be unimpressed with anything less than a movie of their display; still pictures don't do right by them.

As it is, I added enough content that I could have asked for DYK credit. But I didn't want to sick another reviewer on you. Best to you. 20:00, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

1. Maybe you're right. I haven't had much to do with DYK lately. I remember it as quick and easy.

2. Cuttlefish use Wikipedia. That's a fact. They are very clever, unlike starfish who are idiots and mocked for being so. Fact!

3. Twix changed to "...dorsal mantle lengths measured from...".

4. I still like ALT2. We'll see what others say.

Finally, please have the DYK credit. You can take mine. :) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Would love to. But WP:COI. Can't run with the hares and the hounds. I don't want to screw up the DYK or turn it over to the tender mercies of another reviewer. I know what work I did, and I take doing reviews serious. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:25, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

As you wish, my friend. But you worked on the article plenty. COI doesn't apply. You should take credit. Cuttles would have wanted it this way. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:28, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Been there; done that. The DYK people will not like that. I'm not standing in your way, but dissension is likely. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't want to put you in bad standing at DYK. I trust your judgement. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:37, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

For your overuse of "That said"

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

— Preceding unsigned trouting added by Eat me, I'm a red bean (talk • contribs) 01:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey! I only used it twice, and apologized for it. That said, I can't promise I won't use it again. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:41, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

You mean three times, right? Gparyani (talk) 01:45, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

No. Twice. That said, now four times. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A perfectly valid nominative absolute, as per the "that said" entry at Wiktionary. That said, "although" seems to convey the exact same thing. That said, however, uh...ha ha! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You're not going to get to five, right? Or otherwise, you'll get whacked again, this time by me, and in return, you'll have to give me some WikiLove. Wanna bet? Gparyani (talk) 01:56, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I won't say "██████" again. Now, I can't promise I won't say a variation of "██████" like "Matt said", as in "I can't find my wheelbarrow, Matt said." or "that shed", as in "Matt, you idiot, your wheelbarrow is in that shed". Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Please don't game the system and exploit loopholes. You're only going to get yourself to violate basic grammar rules, which merits another whack in my opinion. Gparyani (talk) 16:47, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay, okay. Enough shed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

That said, some stroopwafels for you!

I'm not sure what your problem is with "that said", but here are some waffles. That said, they would benefit from some strawberries. That said, perhaps syrup would be of benefit too. That said, a fork sure would be nice to eat them with. That said, you could eat them with your hands. That said, do people ever eat waffles with chopsticks? That said, how would they be sliced? That said, that said, that said...!!!! North America1000 03:06, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Yummy! Thanks. That shed, I'll have to enjoy them after I visit my speech therapist. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Ankur Mazumder is back, again

Yes, that's right; in line with his behavior of waiting long periods of time (about one month) before creating a new sock or editing from an IP address, there is now once again an open case at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ankur Mazumder. Gparyani (talk) 01:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm confused, Gparyani. I see no edits or deleted edits for the IP. I also see no edits by that IP at Sir Julius Vogel Award. What am I missing? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

The IP attempted to edit, but was disallowed by the edit filter. Check the log entry I've linked at the SPI page for the attempted change. Gparyani (talk) 01:53, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I should also mention that with almost every attempt to insert himself into Wikipedia, it's usually accompanied by edits to his Google site: [4]. Gparyani (talk) 01:59, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I can't access google anything. If that site has an email address or a way to post, then you can contact WMF to write to him and tell him to stop. Also, is this really worth the SPI? Why not just block and optionally paste a link at his talk to the master or SPI so others know. This guy isn't worth it and WP:DENY and WP:SAVERESOURCES should be considered. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

The note about the Google site was only a side note; my main response was that his attempted edit was blocked by the edit filter, and I've linked the attempted diff in the SPI case. Gparyani (talk) 02:57, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Gparyani. A side note, understood. But still, not a bad idea to check and see if WMF has a way to contact him. About the worthiness of filing each case, why not ask at the SPI if future cases should be DENIED? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:53, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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User:Pappuyadava

Possible sockpuppet.Xx236 (talk) 10:58, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Details? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm probably paranoid. Many editors from that region act similarly.Xx236 (talk) 13:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah, Xx236, you think he's User:Narmmadda Ahuja. If he is, you will see "Aas Mohammad" or a variation somewhere in an article title, content, or username. Also, by heading this section with his username linked, you have pinged him. He arrives here and sees this and could be quite upset. You also posted at his talk with "You may be blocked." You need a pretty good reason to make accusations. Please be gentle or at least have strong evidence. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Are you aware of 81.183.217.1 comments above?

Xx236 (talk) 11:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I am now. Removed. It was him. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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Page protection

Hi there, can you please protect Muhammad: The Messenger of God (film)? Thanks. -KH-1 (talk) 08:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi KH-1. 119.30.45.88 seems to have stopped. If this persists with this same IP, I can block him rather than protecting the page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I just risked being trolled against

I just nominated Alakzi's userpage for deletion, thinking it wasn't created by the user, only to find that it was. This user has a tendency to troll against users who "attack" him, and by nominating his page for deletion, I think I might have done so, due to the automated warning on his talk page from Twinkle even though I reverted it, along with the talk page edit, slightly after. Could you please "protect" me in case he does some sort of trolling against me, like he has done to users who complain anything about him? Thank you very much! Gparyani (talk) 01:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Do not worry. I am sure User:Alakzi will understand that you were trying to remove an attack against him. Maybe he will even thank you. But what you just wrote above may prompt him to say something in response. Anyway, many, many admins follow Alakzi's edits. You needn't worry about injustice. We are all watching. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Why'd you have to ping him? I didn't want him to use my above text as a quote against me, as he has very frequently done. Now you've alerted him here, which I explicitly didn't do by using Template:Noping. I especially don't want to be part of this... Gparyani (talk) 01:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Wait a minute; that gives me an idea... Gparyani (talk) 01:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry. I didn't notice the noping. Either way, he is very good at clicking contributions. Also, do not live in fear at Wikipedia. Nominating that page was an honest mistake. Also, it is not a good idea to write anything disparaging about another if you can help it, and statements like "...sort of trolling against me, like he has done ..." and noping do not mix. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay, then could you remove this discussion and RevDelete the revisions containing it, if that's the case? Thanks! (Don't forget to remove the edit summary and username, please.) Gparyani (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I cannot do that in this case. The best plan is for you to forget about this whole thing. Don't worry about problems unless they become problems. If Alakzi writes to you condemning you for what you did or wrote (and I doubt he will bother), then politely explain yourself and move on. I guess he will move on too. So may issues at Wikipedia are created. Seek to defuse and disengage. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I get it. Just needed some consolation... Gparyani (talk) 02:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Be brave, my friend. Have no fear! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:01, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User_page_deletion --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you NeilN. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:39, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Wonder why no one's taken this to ArbCom yet... Gparyani (talk) 17:42, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Or Jimbo's talk page.... Dennis Brown - 2¢ 17:44, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I've figured out his tactic. Just before a situation heightens to a point where someone would invoke a higher-than-admin authority (bureaucrat/steward/ArbCom/Jimbo), he immediately withdraws/apologizes/otherwise averts the situation. Unfortunately, he appears to not know that this constitutes a long-term pattern of abuse (as does vandalizing articles weeks or months apart, with constructive edits in between, for example), and can still be reported as a result. Gparyani (talk) 22:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

You're a bigger jerk than the guy who called me an animal and a pig. Alakzi (talk) 00:47, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Gparyani, above you expressed concern that he might commit some sort of trolling act against you and asked for me to protect you. Now, again addressed to me, and about him, you write things that prompt a response from him. Why? Why? Why? Why? Don't answer that. Can you see the problem? It's like saying loudly "Hey everyone!!! See that guy with those banana cream pies??? He starts throwing pies the instant anyone points out his banana cream pies!!!"

You said that you might consider RfA one day. I think you would be a good one, but what I see above stands out as a concern. Personally, I'm not a great admin. I still pick really low-hanging fruit. I avoid ANI. I'm lousy at decisions with too many factors on both sides. But when trying to stop disruption, my approach is common to all admins: Keep out of the equation. Take necessary action without being a player on the board. Be gray. Make it boring. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:20, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Did someone say pie? Mmmmmmm, pie. Opabinia regalis (talk) 07:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

It's all about the pie. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:37, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

for the follow-up. Discussing that was my next step. Since you're aware of the recent context, you're welcome to review YeOldeGentleman's corresponding block. Thanks. Opabinia regalis (talk) 10:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Dear oh dear. I'll let you and others handle this one. Too many cooks... Thank you for letting me know, though. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Just saw this

Your page deletion was mentioned here (It wasn't my page anyway :) ) . The nom didn't have the courtesy of notifying you. Based on his/her responses, I'm gonna say your removal was justified, however, you might want to chime in here. KoshVorlon We are all Kosh 11:13, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Kosh. Actually, I was notified. I archived it already. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Rama2050

Who is ZoffioIndia. 07:58, 18 September 2015‎ User:106.206.135.183

I think you are. You are also Rama2151 and Rama2050. I think you are (or are associated with) all of the IPs on this list. Also, you said "we". And also, the draft was started by ZoffioIndia. Then you said it is "your" draft. If it is yours, then how did you find it two days after ZoffioIndia started it?? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I don't know Rama 2151, my account is only Rama2050, I am using my friend IPs. So request you to block all account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.206.135.183 (talk) 08:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I have trouble believing you. You see User:Rama2151 created Draft:Abhishek Kamani. You, Rama2050, (a blocked editor writing here using an IP in violation of that block), have been editing Draft:Zoffio. Zoffio was established by Abhishek Kamani. Quite a coincidence, don't you think? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

In Wikipedia, anyone one can edit any Article but need approval from Admin. So request you to unblock my Account Rama2050 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.216.166.138 (talk) 09:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Correction: "It is the encyclopedia that anyone who is not blocked can edit." You are blocked. Not just that account, but you. You are Rama2050, Rama2021, Rama2151, Zoffioindia, Hemant2021, and many IPs. You have also lied to me. If you wish to discuss being unblocked, go to your original account (Zoffioindia) and log in. There, at User talk:Zoffioindia, we can discuss you being unblocked. But right now, do not edit any more under an IP or account. Do not edit that draft. If you do, your draft may end up deleted and you blocked forever. We have rules here. Obey them. Okay? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:45, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I will follow rules and as per you no edit in draft — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.216.140.51 (talk) 13:08, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

An early Mid-Autumn's gift...

	A mooncake filled with red bean paste
	This may be early, but here they are in season in mid-August!  Eat me, I'm a red bean (talk · contribs) 10:12, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much. :) It is customary when giving moon cakes to also give several viles of insulin too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Let's not deceive ourselves here. I'm actually doing it to get some guanxi within the admin corps to wish you a happy Mid-Autumn's Day next week! Eat me, I'm a red bean (talk · contribs) 23:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. :) And a happy, happy Mid-Autumn's Day to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:55, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Usurping User:Erik

Hello, Viriditas suggested that I contact you to see if there can be action taken regarding a certain global renaming situation. Since April 2007, I have had the en-wiki account User:Erik. I got this in March 2015 and had to change to Erik~enwiki and subsequently changed to Erik II. The editor who got User:Erik globally is an editor from frr.wikipedia.org, but the editor has only 205 edits and has not edited since August 2014. Do you think it is possible to usurp this handle? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Erik II (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:15, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Erik. I am not sure why Viriditas thought of me for this. According to Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations, these folks consider and carry out, the "usurpation" of local usernames:

• Global renamers#Users with global rename access
• Wikipedia:Bureaucrats#Current bureaucrats

Also, wow, Username~enwp is a pretty odd way to rename accounts. If they had made the changes to Username at Wikipedia, half the people would be fine with it. Anyhow, 205 edits on an account around a year old is pretty active. I don't know what they'll say. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful than providing links and an opinion. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback, Anna! :) Erik II (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 03:10, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

No thanks necessary. I wish I could have helped. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:56, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Erik II, likely the reason that you didn't get to keep the username Erik is because, despite only having 205 edits on frr.wikipedia, the user is an administrator (see here). I think, that administrators/advanced users got priority of keeping their username, followed by edit count and account age (of which you would be clearly higher). You should get in touch with a global renamer as per above, and see if you can usurp, a bureaucrat won't be able to help in this regard. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:13, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

kelapstick, that would make sense. I'll get in touch with a global renamer. Erik II (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Am grateful to be here ma. it is a copy and paste from somewhere but i did a little bit of adjustment. am sorry if i violated the rule, but am working on it as soon as possible. Thank you John roger1 (talk) 10:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I've replied about your userpage at your talk page. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:16, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

New SPI on Zoffio

I have filed a new SPI case on Zoffio (which you were heavily involved in). It is at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Zoffio. I hope you will be interested. Thank you. Eat me, I'm a red bean (talk · contribs) 11:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

I didn't add those IPs. I added a couple, mostly as a sample for the record. The user's IP is different all the time so there is not much point in blocking. I've protected the draft. That will mean that either the user successfully negotiates an unblock (unlikely), tries to recreate it under a different name (we'll detect and delete that), or gives up (likely). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:16, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

This is life

This was the title when I found you precious a while ago, admiring among others the colourful life on your user page. How do you like the colours here, compared to what we had before? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Gerda Arendt. It is lovely! Plus, it contains lots more information than before. And, I am a fan of tables (which probably puts me in the minority). Whenever I see a list that is just a list, I always think "Why is this so different from a category?" What you've done is to make an ordinary list into something very valuable. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Alakzi did it. I only filled it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I get it. Gerda, I try to be pretty straightforward and I think you should too. It looks like this post was about mentioning him again and pointing out (despite his unparalleled incivility, profanity, and disruption) what a constructive editor he was. If you have something to say about his block, please just say it. Post at AN, anything. But, raising things here and at Montanabw's RfA can be seen as passive-aggressive and disingenuous editing. What are you trying to say or achieve? Do you want him back? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:55, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Gerda Arendt. I'm itching to archive this, so please respond, or at least say that you won't, if you wont. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:31, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Archive. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
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Thank you, Hulkster1! It is an odd choice of stars, as I am not known here for my writing skills, but I am grateful nonetheless. :) Long time, my friend. It is nice to see you back. I hope everything is good with you. Very happy editing, and if there is anything you ever need, please ask. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Real Life Barnstar

Thank you Anna, am grateful for that message you sent me,for making me feel so important and valuable to Wikipedia. Am only trying to be a good editor,writer and contributor like you are. am indeed honored. I will do according to what you have said in writing articles like local dishes, fruits and vegetables, towns, train stations, household objects. Thank you John roger1 (talk) 10:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you again! :) Really, I don't deserve it. I am just trying nudge you into the wonderful world of Wikipedia editing. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:39, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

bottle traps

Hi Anna - I found your colorful and/or informative photos within commons category "bottle traps". I was browsing at fish trap article. I am curious to know just a bit more, just for fun, maybe to make 1 or 2 with kids:

• how is the conical entryway attached? I can't tell if it is still connected but popped back into the main bottle-receptacle (but i think the plastic is not flexible enough), or if it is fused some other way all around, or if it is held by small staples all around, or if it is held just by the two rings to which the string is attached (but then what's different about the fish release section)?
• what is done with the small fish? The "caught fish" jar suggests it's not just for play to catch and release. Does one make some kind of fish soup, say like this?

There's another photo series "How to make Ukebin (fishing trap pot)" in the category, where it looks like the ring-equivalents are paperclips, by the way. Anyhow, thank you for contributing the set of photos! --doncram 11:45, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

• 
  "Fish traps in Haikou: Man making fish traps for sale"
• 
  "...a trap showing conical entry hole"
• 
  "...man shows fish release location"
• 
  "...caught fish"

Hi doncram. I'm glad you like the photos. The conical part, if I remember correctly, is completely cut off and just shoved back into the rest of the bottle. It makes a tight fit and just stays.

That small fish was probably caught to show potential customers what they will catch. That photo was taken here, where the water is pretty poluted. What's worse, I've seen people catch plenty with those traps here! See that straight road running from that point to the southeast? Well, there's a gross, stinky waterway under it, and it dumps out right there. Super-worse is that I think those people were going to eat the fish. People even collect snails all around Haikou. Who knows what happens to those, but they sure aren't collecting them for fun. Let's hope they're for duck food, because ducks love snails and in the countryside, they are collected for that purpose. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:56, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, if you zoom in on "a trap showing conical entry hole", you will see that he's cut the top off 40% of the way through (and cut off neck and part where the cap screws on), turned the top inside out, and shoved it back in. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Breast milk jewelry

Hi A.F. – Breast milk jewelry, an article you created, is being considered for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breast milk jewelry. It does not appear that you were notified about the discussion. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you North America. I actually saw it, but had nothing more to say that I did at the article talk. I'm happy to see you found more sources. Maybe Bing doesn't do as well as Google. Let me change that "maybe" to "of course". :) Anyhow, thank you again. But if it ends in delete, that's just fine by me. I wrote to a couple of companies for a photo and got nothing. To me, an article with no photo is really lacking. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Aas Mohammad

Hi Anna. I've set Special:AbuseFilter/666 to disallow the edits. Hopefully this will dissuade them from even trying, rather than us just having to clean up afterwards :) Sam Walton (talk) 23:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Sam. That's good news. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Zoffio again

Once again, Zoffio has changed his IP address...see [5] and [6]. I invite you to enter the SPI casepage again. Thank you,
—Eat me, I'm a red bean (talk · contribs · email) 10:20, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Eat me, I'm a red bean. I will try again to communicate to him that he's wasting his time and he is blocked. But I've told him this before and WP:CIR seems to be an issue. Anyway, I'd suggest not filing. SPIs are generally used to "get to the bottom of things". We know it's him. We can block individual IPs, but his changes every time. The draft is protected. Any voice at the MfD by him will be discounted. And about the MfD, I mentioned at IRC that the criterion may be invalid but, let's see. My suggestion is to let the draft go state. After six months it will be deletable. If somebody approves it before then, we can deal with that when it happens. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:14, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not going to write to him. It's hard to find a place to leave the message. If he returns, then I'll write. He's dishonest, I've said it all before to him, and choses to not understand anyway, so what's the point. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:20, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

He's back (User talk:Banga1984). He created Draft:Arcadia Technologies Pvt Ltd - Zoffio, which is an easy WP:G5. I also have a place to talk with him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Some pig's blood cakes for you!

Hi A.F. – Thanks for your ongoing contributions to Wikipedia: helping to keep matters in order, creating new articles, etc. I happened upon these while uploading to Commons, and figured I'd spread the love! Cheers. North America1000 13:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you my dear friend! You do send me a lot of these nice messages. I'm sorry I'm not as good at it. I'll try. I am still astonished by your enourmous contributions to the food area. A good reason for me to drop by and say hi. :) So, let's wolf down pig-pops until we feel a combination of satisfaction and slight illness. :) Happy Moon Cake Day and happy upcoming National Day. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:09, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Sepia prashadi

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Yay! Thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:09, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hainan photos

Do you still take photos in Hainan? If so, are you interested in getting shots of The International School of Sanya and/or Sanya College? WhisperToMe (talk) 14:52, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi WhisperToMe. Actually, I live in Haikou, the opposite site of the province from Sanya. Plus, I never go to Sanya. Sorry I can't help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:03, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

It's ok! Thanks anyway! Now, I've heard there is supposed to be an international school in Haikou too but I don't know the Chinese name nor the address. If I get more details I'll let you know :) WhisperToMe (talk) 13:08, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Sure. If it's in Haikou, I'd be happy to take the photo. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:10, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

hello why did you do this to me? Durr-e-Shehwar

I told you I won't sock, i came clean to you, instead you got me blocked indefinitely when as a matter of fact my block was set to expire 11th october?? I trusted you and thats how you repaid me?? Wow103.250.184.45 (talk) 16:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Let's discuss this at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:56, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I see your talk access has been revoked. Okay. Let me read all of that and then I will comment there. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:58, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For your valuable contributions to Wikipedia. And your dedication to help others and for being sooo nice . Thanks —☮JAaron95 Talk 07:52, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much. That is very kind of you. And thank you for all the help you've been offering. Because of you, I finally understand coordinates. Yay! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:56, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Black Privilege

Please recreate the page black privilege please ft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupinwork (talk • contribs) 00:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Definitely not. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:02, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

yes anna, i am talking about Khowar language page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sminthopsis247 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Sminthopsis247. If it persists, the page may be protected. I'll keep an eye on it. Right now, there are at least 4 editors paying attention and reverting. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:02, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

hi anna, i needs you help! please delete the Khowar language page is half of article consist of vandalism and unreliable sources. I want to rewrite this article with reliable sources. Please delete or unprotect the Khowar language page if you can... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sminthopsis247 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Sminthopsis247. The page is not protected. Feel free to edit it. As for deleting, why? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:25, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

The page is semi-protected please delete the page because the page consist of many vandalism are made by sockpuppets. I makes many times correction but each time my edit is reverted. Now you read khowar article properly you will know about truth. The old name of language is Arina, not Arniya (arniya is a dialect) the language is believed is a slavic language. The language have slavic roots and many words of slavic languages are also found in khowar. The language is deos not include words 14 Languages of chitral but, also language have 9% persian language loanword due to persian was official language of Chitral (princely state). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sminthopsis247 (talk • contribs) 05:43, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah yes, Sminthopsis247. You are right. It says "16:22, 5 September 2016". I missed the "2016" part. I am sorry. About your edit: please post at the article talk requesting that edit: Talk:Khowar language

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, i can not do this because i am new user i nothing know about this... Anna, help me please remove this incorrect line; The Norwegian Linguist Georg Morgenstierne wrote that Chitral is the area of the greatest linguistic diversity in the world. Although Khowar is the predominant language of Chitral, more than ten other languages are spoken here. These include Kalasha-mondr, Palula, Dameli, Gawar-Bati, Nuristani, Yidgha, Burushaski, Gojri, Wakhi, Kyrgyz , and Pashto. Since many of these languages have no written form, letters are usually written in Urdu, Pakistan's national language. Khowar is designated as one of 14 regional languages of Chitral, Pakistan. From Khowar language Please... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sminthopsis247 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sminthopsis247. I know nothing about the subject and discussions and requests about what should go into an article should take place at the article talk page. Although you are new, if you can post here, then you can easily post at the article talk page requesting the edit. Be brave. Be bold. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

(watching:) Sminthopsis247, click here to reach the talk, and when you comment on a talk page (like this one) please sign a comment. Before you post, consider: the line is in the lead (or led, the introduction and summary). Do you think it is just a wrong summary of facts below with references, or do you think the facts are wrong, - then please address that rather than the summary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda. :) I actually did provide the link above. Search "please post at the article talk requesting that edit" But thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:57, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Link? You said "article talk", but how would a really new user know how to get there? You and I know it's the little rider saying "talk", but I remember that it took me a while to find out when I was new. - I wonder how many (even experienced) users know how to get to the coding of a template, such as {{infobox Bach composition}} ;) - You tell them to request something on the infobox talk, and they seem to have no idea how to get there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I provided a link right after "please post at the article talk requesting that edit" Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:25, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Also, it appears that he is User:Compassionate247. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:07, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Wait a second. Aren't you the blocked User:Compassionate247? =???

Replied at User talk:Najaf ali bhayo. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

what are you saying??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sminthopsis247 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

You are pretending to not know what I am talking about. Please do not insult my intelligence. If you read User talk:Najaf ali bhayo and really have nothing to say about it, then never mind. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:44, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Dear Anna, i am not insulting your intelligence! I want to know what are you saying and who is User:Najaf Ali Bhayo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sminthopsis247 (talk • contribs) 10:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

No need for sections headings.

How about a question: Are you Compassionate247? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

User:Rasya2015 AfD discussion

Hi Anna

I started an articles for deletion tag on the above user, but i see you have since deleted the page and blocked the user indefinitely, could you please close the AfD discussion as you have since deleted the page?

The link to the page is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/User:Rasya2015

Thanks Class455fan1 (talk) 10:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Done and commented at your talk. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	For giving me helpful advice about nominating articles for deletion and for being nice! I think you deserve this barnstar Class455fan1 (talk) 11:03, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very, very much!! I am sorry I did not give you lots of links with guidelines. If you need some, please say. Anyhow, what you are doing is very much appreciated. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:07, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Edited Sameer Albert page

Dear Anna, we had edited Sameer Albert page in here. Keep it going — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankitjainindia (talk • contribs) 12:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Ankitjainindia: I will post at a few minutes at User talk:Sameeralbert to explain. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:41, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Help please.

Hi, could you help me, i moved this page to it's correct title. As seen in the sub but someone reverted and told me to discuss it i don't understand why it needs discusing as it is the proper title, the other title was only temporary when it was first announced. Can you help me sort it please. Lukejordan02 (talk) 15:44, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Luke! Sure. Here. Be patient. Post your view like "...I think it should be X because.... I will move it to that unless there are objections..." If nobody comes to discuss it, move it. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank You Lukejordan02 (talk) 16:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Romanian Football

If you are interested to improve Romanian Football : Cupa României old seasons who does not have a page, and Liga II also. If everyone will choose a season and edit, all the seasons will be done in one week ! Thank you.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 20:52, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Alexiulian25. All I know about football is that there is this huge field with very few people and a white dot. (In other words, I haven't a clue about football.) I'm sorry. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:49, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Anna Frodesiak. Football is the simplest team game in the world, you can learn easy about it, and for the moment you do not need to know so many. If you will read the previous article from the pages I posted you will understand what you have to do. Open Liga II, and in the right you have a column with years, the years in red are the missing editions, you have to create them in tables. Here is the reference : [7]. If everyone will choose a season and edit, all the seasons will be done in one week ! Thank you.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 06:05, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, Alexiulian25. I'm really not the right person for this. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Simpleabd again

You want to try again here? I understand perfectly if you don't as it's like talking to a brick wall. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, NeilN. Granite, more like it.

I've invested 2:10 minutes more. It has a 1% chance of working. Not good.

But, I'll keep a copy and build up some boilerplates. I don't feed trolls, but I will try to talk socks off the project as an experiment. My hope is one day having a collection of boilerplate pleas that I can paste at a sock's latest account, one after another. If 1 in 10 stops, it would be worth it. After all, each master likely draws over an hour in reads and keystrokes. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)