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The red link has left me no peace

Do you remember general director Julius Koritschoner?
Would you like to take a look at my next rough draft? Emil Kahane
My head is spinning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Emil_Kahane --Virtualiter (talk) 21:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Virtualiter -- Thank you for reaching out for help! At present, I'm having trouble sorting through the Emil Kahane draft to understand his importance. It's worth noting that you can also create drafts in the draft space or in your sandbox. There, you can work on an article without it needing to meet various Wikipedia standards. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

• ".. but may read better as prose"[1] No! The list format is clearer for understanding the Hine collection.
• Would my next attempt to son Karl[2] be sufficiently relavant? --Virtualiter (talk) 13:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  Hi, @Virtualiter: I can agree that some of the information may be better in list format. However, it's not clear to me what the current list means. Does "oo" indicate this was one of Koritschoner's wives? If so, there is an error somewhere, given that sources say he only had three wives, not four. Additionally, citations are needed. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  As for the article for Karl: The focus of the Wikipedia article should be on the person the article is about. At present, most of this article is about the family, which doesn't establish why Karl himself is notable according to Wikipedia guidelines. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  In EN:WP i coudn't find this small symbol: ⚭ for marriage

  I'm convinced that Emil is much more important than his son Karl - even if I can't explain how a clerc can buy half a public limited company and then get it back after losing it. But Karl enjoyed more political prominence. --Virtualiter (talk) 15:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you for clarifying about the marriage symbol. This still raises the question regarding verification. At least two sources indicate Julius had 3 wives, but at present, the family section of the article shows that he had 4 wives without providing citations. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  Herwig Hartner-Hnizdo may have lost track of the 3 marriages mentioned. (geni.com says Else was Mother of Franz Karl Koritschoner and Hans Friedrich Koritschoner https://www.geni.com/people/Else-Koritschoner/6000000017658016357 But that doesn't pass as a source here). What reliable source can we find? --Virtualiter (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Virtualiter: Geni itself is not a reliable source because it is user generated. However, if there are any documents included on Geni (e.g., newspaper articles, census statements, etc.), those sources may be reliable. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

[3] Are you typing all this yourself? Hopefully you realize that the source code becomes uneditable with something like that. --Virtualiter (talk) 17:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Virtualiter: I did not type all that myself. I used a tool called ReFill. Can you explain how the source code became uneditable? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, take a look at this. Because of all the table formatting in the source text, you can no longer see where the story continues. 1166 Bytes is an halfe article!! --Virtualiter (talk) 10:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@Virtualiter: It looks like the "book" cited there is a collection of essays. Do you know which essay you were citing? If so, the list of authors could be shorter. I tried searching the book for some of the information in the cited sentence but couldn't find the exact essay. Also, it may be helpful to edit using the Visual Editor -- at least sometimes -- to get around cumbersome citations. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

The article from Raymond Bardeen Ladoo[4]. Serial No. 2142 (as single essay). How could ReFill read the name? But shouldn't it be enough to just give Google Books the page number? --Virtualiter (talk) 16:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@Virtualiter: Reference updated. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, I think I've run out of ideas. Would you like to take another look? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eduard_Elbogen --Virtualiter (talk) 20:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Significa liberdade ? --Virtualiter (talk) 18:54, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Virtualiter: I'll add it to my to-do list, but I can't promise I'll get to it quickly. I have a lot of work on my plate right now and am using Wikipedia mostly to relax when I have time. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Significa liberdade

I don't want to be annoying, but I'll soon be disappearing into the archives. --Virtualiter (talk) 13:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Virtualiter: Thanks for touching base. At this point, the article is beyond my expertise. I would recommend submitting for review to receive feedback from other editors. :) Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Recent BLPPROD of a band

BLPPRODs do not apply to bands, see this discussion. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 17:07, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @Mwwv! I had questioned whether a band would be considered a BLP in this case and got a different response elsewhere. Good to know! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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Novels and WP:BOOKS

I've noticed you add WP:BOOKS banners to articles on fiction books; the scope of the project is explicitly "coverage of non-fiction books on Wikipedia." Considering that I actively remove WP:BOOKS from fiction articles, I feel like we may be running in circles. Could you stop adding them to fiction articles, or if I am inaccurate about the scope could we have a wider discussion about this? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, @PARAKANYAA! I had just started doing this a few days ago (I believe), so I can certainly stop! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

No worries, it's just the distinction between WP BOOKS and WP NOVELS is very useful to my personal workflow and I felt us simultaneously doing the opposite thing was maybe counterproductive haha. Thank you for all your work on book articles! PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @PARAKANYAA! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

PARAKANYAA: Also... I see you've already been invited to join the New Page Patrol but haven't requested permissions. We would love it if you could come join us! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I requested perms for that a long time ago, before I was appropriately qualified, I'd say, but I haven't gotten around to reapplying yet now that I am more qualified. I will likely request sometime, thank you for the reminder! PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Handball Euro articles

What is your problem with the 2030/32 men's and women's EHF Euro articles? They meet all requirements and in the past, these were already created after the bids were announced. I put these articles in my sandbox for future use so you will always have a problem with it. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 10:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to the articles, ILoveSport2006? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

2032 European Women's Handball Championship, 2030 European Women's Handball Championship, 2030 European Men's Handball Championship, 2032 European Men's Handball Championship. All deleted even though they meet requirements. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 14:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

@ILoveSport2006: These pages were recreated following a deletion discussion, primarily because it's too soon to create the article: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2032 European Women's Handball Championship, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2030 European Women's Handball Championship, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2030 European Men's Handball Championship, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2032 European Men's Handball Championship. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

That is not what I'm asking. That was back in January. Back then, no official bids were confirmed but in June 2024, the official bids came out and thus, I brought the articles back. So why are they being deleted now? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 16:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Explicit, Theleekycauldron, Liz: Would you like to provide input on this since you officially deleted the articles? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Again, that's not what I am asking. Why did have they been deleted again now? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 23:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Significa liberdade @Explicit @Theleekycauldron @Liz Can I have a response? It's has been three days people. Why were my pages deleted when at the same stage of the bidding process in the past (back in 2021 for the 2026/2028 EHF Euro), the articles were already created and validated. So am I not allowed a response from people who probably don't even know what articles I am talking about and or remember that they deleted them? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 21:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I s'pose they're not "substantially identical" if they've passed the bidding stage, although I don't think that addresses the reason for deletion – there's not much to say here, it's too early. I'm happy to restore it and someone can take it to AfD, I guess? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron Can you do that please? I would really appreciate it.

People have started editing those pages probably thinking this would continue to exist.

@Significa liberdade deleted it saying that it needs to be speedily deleted because it was a article that had already been deleted prior (or something along the lines of that. But before the articles are inevitably deleted because when I contest it, my voice doesn't matter, I copy them all for future use when more info comes out so @Significa liberdade will always have a problem with them if that's his problem with the articles.

So when the official bids came out in June, I brought back the pages and I think they were 100% wrongfully deleted. I could understand the deletion a bit more in January 2024, but since then, with the official bids being known, they shouldn't have been deleted again. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 22:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

ILoveSport2006: As I note, I did not delete the articles. I nominated them for speedy deletion, and then one of the editors I named above actually deleted the articles. Articles previously deleted via discussion may be tagged for speedy deletion, but then not deleted because they are significantly different from the previous article or enough has changed. For example, there may be a deletion discussion about an actor early in their career where the community decides the person is not notable enough for Wikipedia's standards. A few years later, another editor may create a new page, and an editor like myself might see the page was deletion via discussion and tag is for speedy deletion. Then another editor with special privileges might look at the article and say, "This actor has received much more media coverage than the last discussion, so I reject the speedy deletion." In the case of the handball articles, it's up to that editor to determine if the new article has enough sources and is different enough from the previous articles to determine it is no longer too soon for the articles. Does that make sense? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I've undeleted the two I deleted. Someone else is welcome to take them to AfD if they want to. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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The Deep (Dunmore novel)

Hi, just letting you know I reverted your redirect of this article. I honestly don't have a problem with merging the book articles with the Ingo tetralogy article, but it should be all four novels. Just taking out one leaves an annoying gap; it bothers me. -- Robina Fox (talk) 14:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Robina Fox: Can you find sources to establish notability for this article? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I added a couple of refs. Not very substantial, but still... -- Robina Fox (talk) 15:43, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Robina Fox: Thanks for adding those sources! However, when adding sources to an article, please make sure the sources are reliable, independent, and provide significant coverage of the subject. This is how notability is established. Another user has determined that the sources added were not adequate to establish notability. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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one of many indian users with lack of language/writing/formal skills, i notice around sport pages; ban would be very helpful. regards! Cenderabird (talk) 15:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

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RfA nomination?

Hey there, Significa liberdade! Clovermoss and I have been working together to find users who would make great candidates at RfA and great admins – I was a little surprised to see your name on the list, because I thought you were an admin already! I've seen your name around a bunch, with only positive impressions. You have a great content record, do lots of work in admin-like spaces, and seeing the way you handled this thread on your talk only convinced me more. If you're interested in becoming an admin, let me know! We can talk more here, or you can find me on email or Discord (same username). thanks :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Theleekycauldron (and Clovermoss)! Thank you for the kind words! I mainly haven't considered RfA because I'm not sure how I would use any of the additional privileges given my current strengths, background, interests, etc. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

You might find my approach to this in my RfA interesting because I also didn't have a strong "need" for the tools. I genuinely believe that a few more people pitching in where they can is good but I also understand completely if the RfA process itself makes you hesitant. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Seconded – we could always use more admins who are willing to help out wherever they can. If you're looking for a place to get comfortable with the tools, I think you could put your experience at CSD and AfD to good use dealing with other people's nominations :) from there, you can branch out! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Orphan article Zion Richardson

Greetings, Today I de-orphaned this article by adding a link at List of people from Indianapolis, Athletes section. Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 02:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @JoeNMLC! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for all of your help and great edits, on the Lauren Chen article. You are greatly appreciated! PaulPachad (talk) 15:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, PaulPachad! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Tim Bowden

I see you have "Books: removed primary refs" from the article on Tim Bowden. It would be helpful if you point me to the guideline that specifies this should be the case. Oronsay (talk) 01:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Oronsay! Thanks for reaching out with your question. For the Tim Bowden article, I removed the references in the book section and replaced the name of the book with {{citation}}/{{cite book}}. As such, the full reference for each book is there, but it doesn't show up as an in-text citation. I don't know if there is a specific policy about this, but it is common practice for articles relating to authors. Feel free to revert if you find policy or think it's better off the other way. =) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:10, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply. On reflection, it looks better now. Oronsay (talk) 03:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

The ISBN format can be very difficult to access info compared to Trove entries where internally the trove link has much more reader friendly information: an exmaple might be McCrae, Hugh; McCrae, Hugh, 1876-1958. Poems. Selections (1911), Satyrs and sunlight (Second ed.), Thomas C. Lothian, retrieved 8 September 2024{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) the url to the trove work id is identified - the book is a long time before ISBNs - the Tim items have no url included only ISBN. I am adding this as FYI and have no intention to edit the item further at this stage, I am not 100% sure that Trove entry ISBN is a default option compared to the pre-ISBN items. Apologies to the intrusion on this subject. JarrahTree 12:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, JarrahTree! We can certainly add the Trove link to the bibliography reference. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 13:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

very kind of you to respond that way - I thought I was having a true senior moment - maybe my lack of getting a hang of ISBN stuff, then was having trouble of properly identfiying the correct work/xxxx number was causing further stress about the issue... sigh... JarrahTree 13:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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NPOV

I fail to see how an article about the family of three Japanese Prime Ministers is not notable per WP:NPOV. There are articles about notable political families such as the Kennedy family or Udall family. The article does need expansion, not removal. --Plumber (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Plumber! Thanks for reaching out with your concern. The article for the Satō–Kishi–Abe family has not been removed from Wikipedia; rather, it have been moved into the draft space, where you and others can continue working on it. It was moved to the draft space because it only used a single source. If you look at the other articles you mentioned (i.e., about the Kennedys and the Udalls), you'll notice that they have many sources to highlight the families' notability. As an autoconfirmed user, you may move the Satō–Kishi–Abe family article back into the main space if you object to the draftification, though I would suggest adding at least 1-2 more sources before doing so. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:33, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification, I was not fully aware of how the draft space worked. --Plumber (talk) 15:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Shafeev Award and Fojtik Henglein Award

I saw that you had declined and requested revdel on Draft:Shafeev Award, which was created by the author of Draft:Fojtik Henglein Prize, an article that has most certainly the same issues that I foolishly accepted a day or two again. Appreciate if you could take a look at it quickly and see if there's anything else I missed since it's very similar. Thank you, Reconrabbit 23:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Reconrabbit! I haven't been able to check for similarities through Earwig while it's searching the internet. However, checking against the cited sources doesn't seem to bring anything up, and neither does a more general Google search. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

I know how stressful it can be to receive thoughtful and critical opposes. I know you'll take their feedback into consideration, as you have before and I admire your resilience, and no matter the outcome of the RfA, hope you take care of yourself and continue to be a net positive to the community. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

🥰 thank you so much, Shushugah! I’m already reflecting on and implementing feedback. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 12:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Hang in there

As someone who's RfA was pretty contentious, I know that this is stressful. But the stress will pass, and I think you will too. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Ad Orientem! <3 Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 13:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I came here to say the same thing. The RFA is still ten points outside of the discretionary zone. I think most people opposing seem to tacitly accept that you are going to pass, and they want to make sure you've heard the concerns that have been expressed, which is fair enough. I got beat up on about the nuances of speeedy deletion as well, I tried to make the point, which I believe you have touched on as well, that there is a world of difference between nominating somethibg for CSD and actually just deleting it yourself. You got this. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Just Step Sideways! <3 Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I know I used it as "dear admin, please look at this, is it bad?" at least a couple of times before someone kindly told me not to bother admins about drafts that will just time out anyway... -- asilvering (talk) 23:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Significa liberdade, I admire your patience and it will pay off in the next ten hours. I won't say anything now till that time since Asilvering is already here, indirectly, to drop the baton. Congrats in advance. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

A baton for you!

	The new admin baton
	When I said I was pumped to hand over this WP:BATON, I meant it. Welcome to the janitorial cabal. This bin is all yours now. Congratulations on your successful RfA, Significa liberdade! May your mopping be as successful as the RfA. asilvering (talk) 22:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Congrats!

Do good stuff with the mop. Cheers Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 22:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! <3 Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

You did it. Welcome to the NIONTDRBSCC (not in or near the discretionary range but still controversial club)! (We are working on the name.) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

lol, thanks, HouseBlaster. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

adele bloch-bauer 1 revertion

hi, i can see why those categories were reverted, but just so you know why i put them there - the painting was featured in the movie 'woman in gold' with helen mirren so i put them there because of the fact the movie centers around that whole story and painting - but perhaps that is stretching it. sometimes i don't know if categories are being stretched unreasonably, i didn't view it that way but i can see why you did. let me know your thoughts so i can learn from it thx Gregorcollins (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Gregorcollins! Thank you for reaching out with your question. Looking at the Adele Bloch-Bauer article, it appears that Cmr08 deleted several categories specifically related to the film. I understand that it can sometimes be confusing to know the boundaries of how to categorize something. Categories are specifically used for people trying to find similar information. For example, if I wanted to learn about American presidents, I could go to the category Presidents of the United States. It would probably be confusing if, in that list, I saw Bill Burr and Dennis Quaid alongside George Washington and Barack Obama, even though Burr and Quaid have played presidents in films. Similarly, if someone is interested in films scored by Hans Zimmer, they would likely be confused if they saw Adele Bloch-Bauer. I hope this makes sense. Let me know if you have further questions. :) Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

i gotcha. thank you for the very clear explanation! Gregorcollins (talk) 17:37, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, Gregorcollins! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I haven't been online since yesterday, so I only got this notice now. I'm sorry if I caused any problems, but as far as I knew those categories were not ones that the article about a person should be in. I should have left more than an edit summary. I was actually just about to remove the categories that didn't belong from Issa Ibrahim that same editor added, but I'll leave a talk page message instead. Cmr08 (talk) 02:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kawa model

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Congrats and thanks

Thanks for answering my question in your RfA. I apologize that I did not see the answer in time to make a !vote, but I trust that your new admin tools will be used well. Congrats! Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 07:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @The ed17! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:36, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations in advance!

Though I am in the opposition, the result of the RfA is clear enough, with but a few hours left (and I strongly doubt I can jinx it), and I extend my congratulations in advance on getting the mop. I'll admit that I'm still uncomfortable with some of your draftifications and AfDs, but I hope you'll take the advice there on board and be a great sysop. And I'm sorry if my opposition caused you discomfort, or came across as too negative or brusque: I know that negative comments at a stressful forum like RfA can go down badly with the candidates. As such, your friendly and respectful demeanor, especially with the opposers, amidst all the stress of the RfA, impressed me greatly. All in all, I wish you the best in your future work as an editor as well as a sysop. I expect you'll do well enough too. JavaHurricane 16:55, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, JavaHurricane! I really appreciate it, and I am certainly reflecting on the feedback received to help become a better editor and (fingers-crossed that the sky doesn't fall) a good admin. Please don't be afraid to point out areas of concern in the future. =) Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Similar to JavaHurricane, congrats from an oppose voter! The consensus was clear trust in your willingness to keep learning as an already excellent editor, so I wish you luck in continued productive and enjoyable work here🥳! Your hard work on literature articles is sincerely appreciated! BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 02:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, BluePenguin18! I appreciate it. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Your new garb! Hope this fits.

I couldn't close this one for obvious reasons, but I thought I'd extend my congratulations, deliver your T shirt and welcome you to the admin cadre. You handled yourself well in the last week. Take care, and when you get bored of scrabbling down the back of the sofa to find the right block message, have a look in my Monobook. Some kind soul put some code there that produces a nifty dropdown menu. ϢereSpielChequers 21:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Aw man, you beat me to the t-shirt. And we're all out of flamethrowers at the moment. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

2023–24 Liga V moved to draftspace

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RFA successful

Congratulations Significa liberdade! Your RfA was successful. You are now an administrator on the English Wikipedia. I hope you have just as happy a time editing in the future as you did before your RfA. You may want to look at the admin guide to read up on any tools you are unfamiliar with. Primefac (talk) 22:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Felicitations. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Primefac! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Oof, you must be glad that's over. Take a breath. Ask lots of questions, especially when you're in doubt. WP:ADMINCOND and WP:ADMINACCT are really really important. Thanks for stepping up to serve your community in what is often a thankless and unseen job. Mkdw ^talk 23:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Congrats on your successful RfA. I know you will keep on doing what you do best (but now with some extra buttons).Have a nice time on-and-off-wiki...🎊 Volten001 ^☎ 03:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Sending parabéns :) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:48, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Obrigada, Vanderwaalforces! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:37, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations! Welcome to the corps. —Ganesha811 (talk) 11:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations, Significa liberdade. Although I opposed, your responses to editors' concerns assure me that you will use them to become a better editor, and I look forward to seeing the good you'll do as an administrator. 😎👍 Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 18:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

• Congrats, was glad to be able to support you. I hope some of the unfair criticism about new page patrolling won't deter your excellent work there. AusLondonder (talk) 06:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

• Hello, Significa liberdade,

I just saw that you deleted an article I tagged which made me realize that you are an admin now! Congratulations! If you have questions, do not hesitate asking a fellow admin for advice. We are here to help. There are an awful lot of scripts and editing tools that exist to make the job easier, I encourage you to look at our js pages and copy any that appear to be useful or go to Wikipedia:User scripts/List and browse through the list. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Liz!! I'll make sure to go through those pages. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 13:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

About your comments on my talk page

What did you mean by “provides evidence to the contrary”, and how could I improve my mentorship responses? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, AirshipJungleman29: Thanks for asking! Based on my reading, some of your responses on your talk page come across passive aggressive, such as your response to an arbitration notification. Although you may have disagreed with this case being brought to arbitration--found it silly even!--you can respond to the situation in a more civil manner.

As for the mentorship responses, I find them to be quite curt, and at times, can read as though you are annoyed. For example, when Luyabd asked about how to create an article, you responded, "The links on your talk page might be helpful." This is true; the links are available on their talk page. However, such a response can come off as rude, especially because tone of voice, gestures, etc. aren't available via text. When working with newbies, it's important to make the Wikipedia environment seem as friendly and inviting as possible. During mentorship, this can mean encouraging them to ask questions. I also find it valuable to have a response answer the question more directly so the user doesn't click around and go somewhere else to find a quick answer to their question.

I hope that helps! Let me know if you have any follow-up questions, comments, and/or concerns. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Hmm. I can see the mentorship thing and will work on that, but I would have thought WP:PACT would apply to an editor using LLMs to deny AI generation. If those are the standards required it's definitely a good thing this is going the way it is. Anyway, thanks very much for your honesty and quick response, and I'll see you around. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

AirshipJungleman29: To my understanding, PACT indicates that there are times when it's understandable to not AGF. There are many ways to respond to incredulous behaviour from other editors, including not responding. In a situation like the one mentioned, people in arbitration may clearly see the other editor as in the wrong without you ever having to say a word. However, your response to others reflects on you. As an admin, it's expected that people will get upset with you for many reasonable behaviours, such as deleting their copy-paste article. It's also often expected that you will de-escalate the situation (unless a block is required, in which case don't feed the trolls). Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

That's probably true yeah, thanks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, congrats on becoming an admin! Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 17:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Alextejthompson! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Baton and admin elections

Hi, Significa liberdade, congratulations on your successful RfA! I still have a question about the baton.

If a candidate elected under WP:AELECT passes, will you be passing your baton to them, or do you think that baton passing should only be for RfA admins, not AELECT admins? It is sorry to see that you will not be passing your baton to AirshipJungleman29. GTrang (talk) 14:21, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

This is a great question. We may want to discuss at WT:BATON. My instinct is to give everyone elected a baton and one of them volunteers to be the one to pass it on after the next RFA or election. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

+1, or just give the responsibility to the one with the highest pass margin. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Userpage

Can you delete my userpage? CometVolcano (talk) 13:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

CometVolcano: Y Done! :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:06, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. But please delete it again. --CometVolcano (talk) 14:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)  Done, but why would you recreate it only to request it be deleted again a minute or two later? Elli (talk | contribs) 14:15, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	I'm going to skip spamming your notifications with more thanks and just give you this to express how relieved I am that you've been attending to this so promptly (and taught me how to use copyvio-revdel). TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 01:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @TheTechnician27! I'm happy to help. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)