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Very frustratingly

Hunter Biden is under an enforced BRD restriction, which I think your most recent revert violated. The letter of that sanction is really giving first-mover advantage to the flood of inexperienced editors responding to the news, but I don't think there's much we can do except raise visibility and pray for ECP. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

It's a pain. This article always should have been under ECP. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Would recommend either self-reverting or noting in a dummy edit summary that you're sticking with it on BLP grounds. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

BRD restriction would mean it stays out though, and the talk page doesn't say it's on 1RR. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I think the intention of the BRD restriction, especially given its name, is to prevent bold changes from being restored once reverted, unless there's been discussion. As stated, though, it also prevents reverting editors—like you and I—from redoing those reverts, since they're "an edit that is challenged by reversion". Meanwhile, incoming editors are free to re-do the bold edit once each, since the restriction applies to "the editor who originally made it". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I have a different read on it, being that BRD means the status quo should remain until a new consensus emerges, and the lack of 1RR allows us to do that. I could be wrong, but hopefully ECP and 1RR are added to clarify it. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I do think there's a lack of clarity on the restriction. I think my interpretation holds closer to the letter of the restriction, and yours to the spirit. I would love to see ArbCom rework it to be more closely aligned with your version, as I tend to have a lot of status quo bias and would prefer restrictions have the same. I don't feel like ARCA right now... Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree. I resubmitted Hunter's page to RFPP for CTOPS ECP just now, which can hopefully lead to more clarity at least on what to do on this page. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Neil Goldschmidt

On 15 June 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Neil Goldschmidt, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede66 03:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

If you have time

please take a look at [1]. Vandal that you warned has now started vandalizing my user page. I just now reported them to AIV here. Thanks - Shearonink (talk) 16:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks but nevermind, they've just gotten blocked. Shearonink (talk) 16:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Great – Muboshgu (talk) 16:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Brad Dusek

On 16 June 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Brad Dusek, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 18:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Willie Mays

On 19 June 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Willie Mays, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:40, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Muboshgu, I noticed that my recent edits to the Donald Trump 2024 campaign article were reverted, and I wanted to discuss this further to understand how we can improve the article together. My intention with the edits was to ensure neutrality and balance, as per Wikipedia’s Neutral Point of View (NPOV) guidelines. I aimed to remove biased language and provide a more balanced portrayal of policy issues and perspectives, including viewpoints from both supporters and critics. Here are some specific changes I made: Replaced loaded language with more neutral terms. Included both positive and negative perspectives on key campaign issues. Ensured that policy descriptions were presented factually and without bias. I believe these changes contribute to a more comprehensive and unbiased article. Could you please provide feedback on what specific aspects of my edits were problematic, and how I might revise them to better align with Wikipedia’s standards? Thank you for your time and assistance. Best regards, Augustus2714 71.70.226.246 (talk) 01:44, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Mike Brumley (infielder)

On 20 June 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mike Brumley (infielder), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 20:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

2024 Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Edits

Sorry, subject was left out in the original topic. See above comment - Augustus2714 71.70.226.246 (talk) 02:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Muboshgu, I noticed that my recent edits to the Donald Trump 2024 campaign article were reverted, and I wanted to discuss this further to understand how we can improve the article together. My intention with the edits was to ensure neutrality and balance, as per Wikipedia’s Neutral Point of View (NPOV) guidelines. I aimed to remove biased language and provide a more balanced portrayal of policy issues and perspectives, including viewpoints from both supporters and critics. Here are some specific changes I made: Replaced loaded language with more neutral terms. Included both positive and negative perspectives on key campaign issues. Ensured that policy descriptions were presented factually and without bias. I believe these changes contribute to a more comprehensive and unbiased article. Could you please provide feedback on what specific aspects of my edits were problematic, and how I might revise them to better align with Wikipedia’s standards? Thank you for your time and assistance. Best regards, Augustus2714 71.70.226.246 (talk) 02:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I see that you're new. For instance, you shouldn't be editing while logged out. You also should have brought this up on the article's talk page where others can more easily see it and respond, rather than here.

Some of the changes you made were improvements, I think. Taking "vastly" out of Trump has campaigned on vastly expanding the authority of the executive branch, for instance, I think is an improvement. Other parts of your edit removed important nuance and facts in various places. For instance, I think it is a must that we note that Trump's allegations of fraud in the 2020 election are false. We cannot equivocate on things like that.

It is also easier to make changes one at a time, so we can digest them and decide on them one by one. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback and for taking the time to discuss this issue with me. I appreciate your understanding of my efforts to improve the article's neutrality.

I understand the importance of community feedback and will take your suggestion to engage more on the talk page into consideration moving forward. I am eager to hear from other editors and administrators to gather diverse perspectives and refine the article accordingly.

Regarding the issue of Trump’s allegations about the 2020 election, I respectfully hold the view that the neutrality policy allows for presenting notable viewpoints without implying endorsement. These allegations remain a continued aspect of public discourse, and it is important to acknowledge their existence while providing factual context.

Could we discuss potential ways to address these concerns together? I am open to finding a compromise that ensures the article meets Wikipedia’s standards of neutrality and accuracy.

Thank you once again for your guidance. Augustus2714 (talk) 04:57, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Neutrality means stating facts. Suggesting that there could have been fraud produces WP:FALSEBALANCE. The allegations are false so we call them false. On other points, I'm open to consideration on the article talk page. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:01, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Lesigh

I think old Caleb is hanging out at his mom's place, maybe. Probably nothing on TV. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Maybe we can try to introduce him to some people, make him some friends? – Muboshgu (talk) 03:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Do you know how this ... spree ... hissy fit .... whatever started? This. Drmies (talk) 03:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

All I know is he showed up at Kyrsten Sinema and after I protected it moved over to Susan Collins. I don't know if he hit others last night or not. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

San Francisco

I believe you only removed semi-protection, as the page is still indefinitely PC-protected. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 22:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Actually it looks like move-protection was what was removed; it used to be admin-only. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 22:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

You are correct, I did not do what I meant to do. Thanks for pointing that out! – Muboshgu (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

CPBL Infobox

I opened a discussion on the WP:Baseball two months ago to get the guidelines changed. It is out of date period. I opened the discussion to no surprise there was about 4 people who reacted and the general consensus seemed to be that people didn't care either way on the topic. You did not participate in the discussion. The edits get reverted based off an outdated guideline that I opened a discussion on and it was a yes and two that said was situation dependent. So technically that would be a majority yes. I see zero good reason to keep the CPBL out of the guidelines if you have the KBO in there. MLB and NPB are miles and miles above the KBO and the KBO is a slight bump above the CPBL. Not like the mexican league which is a AAA league or Atlantic league that is independent. Keeping useful information like that out of the infobox seems more destructive than helpful to me. Kingryan227 (Decrees • Acts) 23:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

We control the guidelines on this website lmao all it takes is someone to edit the page to change it. There is a consistent group of us that work on baseball articles and about 3 of us that pay attention to every league and have heavy knowledge following them all. Yet with how small our group is none of us agree with one another most of the time and it is constant feuding that is tiring. From my perspective and with my knowledge of the CPBL and other leagues just seems pointless and destructive to leave out stats and dates for one of the 4 main country leagues.Kingryan227 (Decrees • Acts) 23:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

It was discussed with more than four people sometime in the past, I didn't notice you try to reopen a discussion more recently. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I opened up the discussion about two-three months ago. Was me who said yes, Yankees10 who just said he was following the guidelines, Spannerol who was kind of split using Manny Ramirez as an example which I get he had a hall of fame very long MLB career and a short less than half year stint in China I don't mind that not being included and a couple other users one who said it is not even an official guideline it is just an essay that can be changed with a click basically.. But you have a player like Drew Gagnon who has spent more time in the CPBL than in the major leagues or a guy who I just added stats in for Hong-Chih Kuo who played 6 years in the majors and 4 in the CPBL (his home country). You even have a guy like Yu Chang who is leaving the Rays in a month to enter the CPBL draft and who knows if he will come back. The league is relevant enough despite it not being an amazingly skilled league that the starts are just as relevant as a league like the KBO. If we have NPB and KBO in info boxes what keeps the CPBL out? Guys bounce around that league just as much as they do with the others as they have a foreign player limit same as NPB and KBO. Kingryan227 (Decrees • Acts) 00:13, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

If you and Yankees are reverting and keeping out for the sole reason of following guidelines which I understand completely. What does it hurt to change that guideline?Kingryan227 (Decrees • Acts) 00:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

We can talk about it. But per WP:BRD you shouldn't have put it back in after Yankees10 reverted you. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

To be fair I left a message on his talk page after he reverted me before I reverted it again. I left an explanation after I added the stats in, he reverted, I left him a message, waited no response, I reverted again. I went through all the propers ways to discuss it and if the majority seems to not care and are just doing it based off guidelines I say we just change it. We can agree to some sort of exception for a guy like Manny Ramirez who had a hall of fame career and a 15 game stint or whatever he had just isnt relevant. A guy like Contreras had a long but wouldn't say great career I think it is just like a KBO stint truly. I haven't seen anyone who participated in the topic have a reason against it other than just what the guidelines state, which we control. I already did the WP:Baseball and if it was one vote to multiple indifferences isn't that technically majority to change it? Kingryan227 (Decrees • Acts) 01:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Bob Gibson GA Review

Hello there. I nominated Bob Gibson's article for GA review a few months back and with no answer. I was hoping, given your experience with GA reviews on baseball articles, perhaps you can check it out. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Omnis Scientia, it takes a while for baseball bios to get picked up there. I have a baseball GA nom that's been waiting almost as long as yours. Honestly with as busy as I am IRL I don't know that I have the time and attention required for that review right now, but I'll keep it in mind if it lingers. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

No worries! I understand. Actually, I did one GA nomination once before and it got picked up almost instantly which is why was surprised this one was taking so long. Just got lucky that time, I guess. If such a wait is not uncommon then its understandable why its taking time. Thank you for taking the time to respond, regardless. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Various redirects to minor leagues players articles

I noticed you incorrectly several pages of this type recently. While "not mentioned at the target" is a rather common rationale at WP:RFD that often leads to deletion, it is not a WP:CSD and these fairly clearly fall under WP:!G6. As such please undelete the pages and list them at RFD, thanks. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:10E9:A2E3:79F6:A28E (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Duly noted. I was unaware of that essay and can agree that I did not G6 appropriately. I'll undelete and take them to RFD. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:39B9:A943:564A:3BA (talk) 21:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Dennis Deer

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Good/Bowman losing first

AP did not call Good yet, due to pending recount for final result. The final tally of initial results puts him behind McGuire, but still too close to call. RS (WaPo article I used) call Bowman as the first incumbent loss against non-incumbent. KiharaNoukan (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

KiharaNoukan, I know this, but Good's race was before Bowman's, so if he did indeed lose, he lost "first". The real question, though, is: beyond the WP:RECENTISM of the 2024 election calendar, why does it matter who lost renomination "first"? – Muboshgu (talk) 16:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, I just added it in as broader scope of existing language (first dem to lose in 2024). KiharaNoukan (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I understand. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Arndt Jorgens

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DYK for Shane Rawley

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Trump #61

Re: [2][3]

Can I get you on board with current consensus item 61? Is there a reason it doesn't apply to that thread? ―Mandruss ☎ 14:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Mandruss I forgot about it tbh, and probably AGF too much. I'll try to remember it next time. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:12, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. It's not about their good faith; we shoot on sight bad faith complaints, per 61. Rather, it's about the time-wasting futility of nonspecific complaints. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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Block evasion

ArielR20130725 (talk · contribs) is a clear sock of 108.41.40.6 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Yankees10 21:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Yankees10, they should have been warned. I warned them. We encourage IPs to register accounts so I think they need more appropriate warnings for a block. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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Project 2025

Hello - thanks at least for labeling my edits "good faith"; they are.

My question is: if a different Republican nominee were to win the November 2024 election - would Project 2025's planks, recommendations, etc., be different? I imagine not, and their website makes no reference to President Trump. These are among the reasons I think simply saying "the Republican" or "conservative" nominee in the lede makes more sense.

Best,

Kaisershatner (talk) 17:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Kaisershatner, your edit was clearly good faith and not enough editors here assume that. You ask an interesting question that I do not know the answer to. You may well be right. Of course, it's Trump allies who are behind it and it is their plan for Trump to be president as they execute it. This question would be better asked on the article's talk page so others can more easily see it and engage. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi - just saw this, and again, thanks.

I have edited on the talk page as well and will take this there. Presuming NPOV as a first principle - the article comes up short, whatever WP:Consensus currently is. However I will respect the process and will note that there. As the editor who reverted me, I'd appreciate your directly reply there as well, if amenable.

Best,

Kaisershatner (talk) 17:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question about Project 2025 article

Hi. Recently a user put this at the beginning of the Project 2025 article: Not to be confused with Donald Trump's package of proposals, Agenda 47.[4]

Do you think it should be reverted by WP:NPOV? It seems like an attempt to unlink Trump from the 2025 project with the endorsement of Wikipedia. This is even more controversial considering that the Trump campaign initially said that Project 2025 aligned well with its Agenda 47 proposals.[5] Additionally, there is no evidence that there is a common confusion between the two terms. They don't even have similar names, and little or nothing has been said or mentioned about agenda 47.

I'm asking you this because you are a very important user on Wikipedia and also because you have made reversals in the Project 2025 article about WP:NPOV. Esterau16 (talk) 19:59, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Esterau16, I had not heard of Agenda 47. This is again a subject better discussed on the article's talk page rather than mine. I haven't checked it in a few hours to know if you have or not. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Jenny Cavnar

She not gonna let you hit bro Kyūka96 (talk) 13:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Kyūka96, if you make one more unconstructive edit, like the one you made on my talk page, I will block you. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

2nd game of a DH

For the 2nd game of a DH, when adding the 27th player, it would make sense to DO a (2nd game) note for that date only. I don't see why there is any problem, as long as there is no error made. And there was no error, to use a BB term. Just because it "isn't done" doesn't mean it is forbidden by the rules. Lighten up already, and let more info be allowed! MondayMonday1966 (talk) 01:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

MondayMonday1966, it isn't a matter of me needing to "lighten up". It's a matter of following WP:DATEFORMAT. Your previous edit confused another user. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

And then I fixed it after seeing the problem. Only after that (one minute) you removed it Get the whole story straight, not just the partial storyline that you didn't say. Sorry for the initial mistake, but after I fixed it, you should have let it go. After that 2nd game and he was no longer active, I would then put him back on the inactive roster. I've done that before, and with the correction I made, it makes sense to do that to show it is in the middle of the two games on the same day, for accuracy. MondayMonday1966 (talk) 18:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Move of Trump article

Hi there, FYI when you moved the Trump article at 22:57, it was move-protected (sysops only) due to move-warring since 22:52 (duration then changed 22:53). No comment on the actual move itself but in terms of editing/moving through sysop-only protection, I wasn't sure if you were aware the protection existed at the time (everything is moving very quickly so I'm assuming you may not have realised it was protected). Cheers, Daniel (talk) 23:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I did not, thanks for lettin me know. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

All good, suspected this was the case. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 23:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Rehashing RFK

Just a heads-up that the same old argument is starting up again at Talk:2024 United States presidential election#Shouldn't we add Kennedy/Shanahan to the main infobox? 2A02:C7C:E462:1200:F134:56B6:22F5:3310 (talk) 03:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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Question about Kennedy

So, when Kennedy does eventually meet 270 Electoral Votes, will he actually finally be added to the 2024 United States Presidential Election infobox? Like, are you sure that's it, or is there a possibility a whole new other debate is created, like "oh no, Kennedy actually needs to do this this and this to be added." Sorry for the bother. Lostfan333 (talk) 20:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Why are you asking me here and not asking on the article talk page? I don't make the rules but I know there is a talk page consensus. If it were up to me, he wouldn't be added to the info box unless he receives 5% of the vote. Which I doubt will happen, just as much as I doubt he'll get access to 270 EVs (as write in access doesn't count). – Muboshgu (talk) 21:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh, so I can't talk to you now?? I was just asking a question. And since you love predicting the future, if Kennedy does reach those 270, I prematurely told you so. And you can't stop me from asking you questions. Lostfan333 (talk) 21:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

And I asked you as opposed to the article talk page cause I ONLY wanted to know YOUR opinion, even if I don't like it. Lostfan333 (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I didn't say you can't post here, I believe that article issues should stay on article talk pages for the sake of centralizing discussion. That, and I'm just one schmuck on the Internet, so my opinion doesn't matter that much. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Your opinion doesn't matter that much? Bro, I've seen you end countless of article arguments before. Stop acting, you know your opinions matter. They matter to me, regardless if I like them or not. Lostfan333 (talk) 22:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Only arguments that need ending. We all collaborate with our varied opinions. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Request

Any chance you can merge Ignacio Alvarez (baseball) history with Nacho Alvarez Jr? Yankees10 22:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Done, and split – Muboshgu (talk) 23:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Can you also merge Jasrado Chisholm to Jazz Chisholm Jr.? Probably should have happened years ago.-- Yankees10 23:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Flojaune Cofer

Hello-- I see you redirected Flojaune Cofer to the mayor's race entry. You also started drafting a page for Dr. Cofer. I replaced your initial draft with a longer copy, and submitted it to article for creation. It was promptly deemed by the old white guys in the UK to be "not notable" and rejected as an article.

Dr. Cofer is well-written about in secondary sources, spanning years. I can't imagine why these editors would say the subject isn't notable, and they refuse to say why they think she isn't notable.

I have a conflict in that I know the subject personally and have acted as an attorney for her. And so, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to just publish the page.

Could you help get the article up? Draft:Flojaune_Cofer Jon Ivy (talk) 16:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Jonivy, I created the redirect and started the draft, yes. Sometimes these candidates are notable before they are elected, but other times they are not, and AFC reviewers often default to not. I saw your edits to the draft and have it in mind to get back to it, but I have definitely been distracted this past week by Kamala news. I will take a look at the Cofer draft soon. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Fedde-Edman Trade

I appreciate your reversions earlier but the trade was finalized and announced by the Cardinals just now. I went ahead and returned the Tommy Pham page to the Cardinals, but this should unblock all of the other players included as well. Boilerball1 (talk) 20:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Boilerball1, do not make unsourced changes to articles. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

https://x.com/Cardinals/status/1818019045305892949

I'm working to find a non-primary source but this has been announced by the Cardinals Boilerball1 (talk) 20:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

I see that. The tweet is good enough for now, but some source has to support the change in the article. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

question

Hey... I had been using the refill tool to fix bare urls in articles but it seems to be gone or not working [6].. do you know if there is another tool that can be used for that? Spanneraol (talk) 22:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Spanneraol, https://refill.toolforge.org/ng is operational. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Spanneraol (talk) 22:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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176.123.206.218

Block for recreating User talk:Yamla/talk (they're a proxy). Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:10, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Blocked for 72 hours. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

hey there

Just a heads-up, wanted you to be aware of a post that struck me as somewhat personal... Oh and now I see they're off to the races. Would revert the latest but considering their already aggressively snarky tone have decided to not poke the bear. - Shearonink (talk) 02:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Shearonink, I have blocked them indefinitely. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Yamla/talk/talk

Protect it to indef-admin-create-only as well? Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Edwards scandal

This is a factual situation outlined in numerous books. How can it not be included in his political career? The public also deserves to see his voting record, is that not factual as well? I think this needs to be made public if the blocking continues. ArnoldPalmer44 (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

ArnoldPalmer44, that he worked for Edwards is already in the bio. What you're adding, attempting to call it a "scandal", is a WP:POV violation. The only Edwards "scandal" anyone knows is his extramarital affair. Not being named CoS because Elizabeth didn't like him is not a "scandal". – Muboshgu (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok then it’s adding context to not being named chief of staff and coming home to run for office. He was mentioned in several sources as this being why he came back to Raleigh. It’s factually correct and adds context. ArnoldPalmer44 (talk) 15:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any sources from an initial search of "Josh Stein" and "Elizabeth Edwards" other than to acknowledge that Stein worked on Edwards' 1998 campaign. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok, just answer this for me. Is this a factual page on Josh Stein or his personal narrative? ArnoldPalmer44 (talk) 19:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

When you answer this for me: what is factual about a John Edwards 1998 US Senate campaign scandal[7] or that Josh Stein was exposed[8]? That's your personal narrative. And what isn't factual about my edit? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I’m asking a simple question not related to that issue. ArnoldPalmer44 (talk) 19:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

It's a factual page. Calling anything regarding Edwards' election to the U.S. Senate a "scandal" is not factual. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

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Third Party Candidates in State infoboxes

There is a long standing consensus that any candidate who generally polls more than 5% is included in the presidential campaign infoboxes of state articles pertaining to same. This goes back to the 2016 election, with Evan McMillan. I suggest you self revert.XavierGreen (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Not state-by-state, IIRC. Maybe it did for McMillan after the vote? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

See here Talk:2024 United States presidential election/Archive 10 as another user pointed out on the Michigan page right above your comment Talk:2024 United States presidential election in Michigan, so you were clearly aware of same. Accordingly, please self revert.XavierGreen (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I see a straw poll with no conclusion. There is no consensus to include RFK on any state page. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

The vast majority of editors responding were in favor of maintaining the 5% threshold a consensus was clearly formed. You are editing against it.XavierGreen (talk) 20:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

That is false. It's clearly 50-50 on that straw poll. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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I'm sorry.

I really mean it. I'm sorry, and the last thing I wanna do is make you mad at my potentially disruptive way of speaking. Please, I hope you accept my apology. Lostfan333 (talk) 21:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Lostfan333, I gladly accept the apology. Now lets go collaborate on some article content. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Suspicious users 2024 U.S. presidential election

Hello. I wanted to bring to your attention suspicious activity at this RfC. There is an IP and a new user and their only contributions to Wikipedia is their participation in that RfC. Also, the IP !voted twice, which makes me think it is possible they were trying to sockpuppet, but accidentally used the same IP twice. Not sure if there is sockpuppetery going on, canvassing, or what. And I feel like other users at that RfC may be involved as well. What do you think is going on, if anything? Prcc27 (talk) 16:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Prcc27, the duplicate IP vote can be easily discounted with a strikethrough and an explanatory note. Being suspicious of WP:DUCK-like behavior doesn't violate AGF. You can file an WP:SPI to confirm or exonerate the user. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of August 2024 - Edit Summaries

Hello Muboshgu. Of course, you can delete your talk page additions you find uncomfortable or place you in a bad light and are contrary to the contents of the WP:DTTR essay (that does not contain rules) instead of archiving them, but it seems you needed a reminder. To regard experienced editors as exempt from reminders including violation of Wikipedia's consensus policy seems counterproductive and allows experienced editors to ignore Wikipedia precepts. So, will you provide edit summaries in keeping with Wikipedia's consensus policy? Thank you, Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 22:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Quaerens-veritatem, do not assume the reason why I deleted your template, both of your guesses are incorrect. I tend not to respond to templates. I did not know what edit of mine triggered it and a personal approach is better. Now I know which article. I strive to use edit summaries, though I don't always remember to, and will continue to use them as often as I can. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

😊 Thank you. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 22:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
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Logan Evans

Can you please move Logan Evans to Logan Evans (baseball) to make it a disambugation? Yankees10 19:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Muboshgu, you used the edit summary "maintain history", but in fact you did not maintain the edit history for Logan Evans (footballer) - it is stuck in Logan Evans (baseball), of all places. Could you do a history merge, please? StAnselm (talk) 01:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

With how badly it was messed up through edit warring, I'm not sure that can be done. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, admins are supposed to be able to do it, but never mind - I tagged the article. StAnselm (talk) 04:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Says the one who caused the problem in the first place... If you had not edited over the history of the baseball player we wouldn't be here now would we?-- Yankees10 04:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Yankees10, I'm not sure what you were thinking with the article about the baseball player, but you created the article and then redirected it to Seattle Mariners minor league players. It's like you didn't think he was notable until another person of the same name appeared! StAnselm (talk) 04:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

This is literally standard practice. "Creating" an article over the edit history of a whole other person is not.-- Yankees10 04:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Please be WP:CIVIL. To err is human. StAnselm, in the future, don't create an article for Subject A over a redirect for Subject B; put it in its own place and request a move after if you think it's the primary topic. Same advice goes to The-Pope. Let me try to do a history merge of it. I'm not sure it'll work. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I think it worked. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. StAnselm (talk) 18:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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