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My editing philosophy:

Welcome to my Wikipedia user page. My real name isn't "Biosthmors", which is just a rearrangment of the letters in the word thrombosis. I edit Wikipedia and you can too. I don't think it is difficult. I think we should focus most of our efforts on improving existing articles, instead of starting new ones. I want every Wikipedia article to follow our neutral point of view policy, especially the articles that I think raise the most important issues of our time. Access to factual, unbiased information is essential for forming an engaged public. Thankfully, on Wikipedia engaging in any sort of advocacy, slant, or spin is forbidden. If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to contact me on Wikipedia on my user talk page or by email.[but email works only if you're logged in, and setting up an account is easy]

If you want check my edits to see if I am slanting any article towards any point of view, I'll explain some of my beliefs: I see money in politics as the big issue of our time. I wonder why the word socioeconomic exists but politicoeconomic is not in our vocabulary. I happen to like this video, which gives a global/U.K. view, and this video, which gives a U.S. perspective. My view on the Wikipedia–Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) dynamic as I see it is described here. According to Bernie Sanders, the 300 richest own as much as the poorest 3,000,000,000.[1] I don't see the wisdom in this. So I wonder if Wikipedia might—if it were as good as it could be—make the world a more just place?

As for other groups of people around the world, I think all the faces here are attractive (well except for one). As for other sentient beings, I think dolphins and whales should have human rights (unless you're an Inuit hunting with pre-Industrial Revolution tools). Why do I bother mentioning all of this? Because I want you to know that I see editing Wikipedia as one method we might take more responsibility for the world around us—and as an effect, improve social and environmental health.

My views on the owner of the domain:

My other Wikipedia–WMF views are as follows: I am strongly pro-paid editing and strongly anti-advocacy/pro-neutrality. I want the WMF to keep metrics on editor retention of experienced editors. The WMF Board of Trustees has three community representatives, but I think they—SJ, Phoebe, and Raystorm—might represent a wmf:chapter perspective that is orthogonal to the community interest. I don't think that the chapters as a whole should be considered a part of the community. Some chapters are paid bureaucracies, and I'm not sure they add any reasonable value (especially in terms of dollars spent) for readers. In other words, I think that the way we select board seats could be influenced by probably hundreds and hundreds of votes from people who think they have something to gain, like money or travel. (I've received funds for travel from the WMF and I've been very thankful for it. I've tried to give back to the community to prove that this was a good investment of resources.) This is similar to what Sue said.

I care about this politicoeconomical influence because I think it limits the options available for effective governance of the WMF. Wikipedia is in a crisis. It has previously fallen on Alexa page rankings from #5 to #8. We need good governance, oversight, and effective investment of community resources to end the crisis. We should try to be the the world's #1 internet destination. Also, I wish the WMF would publish metrics similar to what Alexa uses, like bounce rate, daily page views per visitor, and daily time on site. What are the historical trends on those numbers?

Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anyone can edit—not the encyclopedia you can abuse to force anyone to edit. Therefore, I feel that the WMF should never influence instructors to force students to edit other than inside Wikipedia sandboxes. Unskilled, uninformed, and untrained students being forced by ignorant instructors to edit Wikipedia articles is one of the worst things about the education program. In my opinion, this forced editing results from the WMF using a bad metric: quantity. However, a quantity-focused approach is not how the English Wikipedia developed—nor is it what the community wants—so pursuing this strategy to build the encyclopedia in English or any other language seems very ill-advised.

My potential conflicts of interest:
  • I have an interest in Vanguard and in the performance of VTSMX and VGTSX with an eye towards increasing shareholder value (and dividend payments) for corporations in those indecies, which might involve the reduction of executive pay
  • Groups I appreciate include the Sunlight Foundation, Transparency International, and Amnesty International; if these groups have their way, they might reduce some level of shareholder value (please note the apparent contradiction with the first bullet point)
  • I have a potential conflict of interest with the topic Suburban Express, but not a real one, because all I want is for the wise application of NPOV and RS to win out
  • I want the Democratic party to win the Senate seat in the 2014 Georgia election because I still think what Saxby Chambliss did to Max Cleland was despicable
  • I support abolishing the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration because I see drug abuse, not drug use, as a social and medical problem—not a criminal problem. The U.S. government should not outlaw anyone's personal freedom as they do currently. Why should they?[2] I support the Portuguese model. I find the viewpoint of some U.S. "conservatives", those who believe that they know what God wants politicians and the government to do, to be highly flawed. I feel that that religiopolitical ideology might be best classified as a disease.
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References
  1. ^ Original here; archived here.
  2. ^ Griffiths R, Richards W, Johnson M, McCann U, Jesse R (2008). "Mystical-type experiences occasioned by psilocybin mediate the attribution of personal meaning and spiritual significance 14 months later". J Psychopharmacol. 22 (6): 621–32. doi:10.1177/0269881108094300. PMC 3050654. PMID 18593735.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
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Shibu Chacko

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Shibu Chacko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Chacko's claim to notability is that he was one of the 399 people who received a MBE in 2019, the lowest grade of all five Order of the British Empire awards that were given to a total of 1,073 people in the same year. He received some coverage for that by some newspapers in 2019, but the coverage was not WP:SUSTAINED.

Clearly, this is not the type of award that makes someone notable enough to have their own Wikipedia article, and I doubt that all other 1,072 mostly ordinary British citizens (list) who received the same general-purpose award or better in the same year are also notable. Badbluebus (talk) 16:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

2018 Case of babies born without arms in France

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A news story about a cluster of birth defects that was never substantiated as being noteworthy or having an external cause. The government study did not find anything; apart from one journal article [7] there does not seem to be any follow-up coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Harold J. Dunlap

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Cant see why he is notable. Note tag has been removed several times. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:NACADEMIC. scope_creepTalk 09:18, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete: Appears to be a resume or CV, likely a memorial page. I don't see notability, he was involved in his community and professional field, but nothing we'd consider notable. Oaktree b (talk) 15:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete fails WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 03:36, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete while he appears to have been an accomplished doctor within his community I'm not seeing a WP:GNG pass. He appears to have operated on several notable people, but that does not make the subject notable himself. Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Pu Zhongjie

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Declined prod. Prod was removed with a source that is a 1 line mention of Pu. Created by a single purpose editor. Google news has a mere 2 hits. Would reconsider if significant coverage can be found in Chinese. LibStar (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

    People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

    • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

    Sources

    1. "Pu Zhongjie". China Daily. 2012-02-28. Archived from the original on 2024-10-01. Retrieved 2024-10-01.

      The article notes: "Pu Zhongjie, born in 1963, is a doctoral degree holder and has obtained the permanent residence permit of the United States. Dr. Pu founded Lepu Group Co Ltd in 1998 and serves as the chairman of the Board and General Manager. ... Dr. Pu is the director of the Chinese Society of Biotechnology (CSBT), vice president of the Interventional Engineering Committee of CSBT and the member of the Changping CPPCC committee."

    2. Li, Yihe 李奕和 (2022-10-31). "乐普系分拆心泰医疗IPO，蒲忠杰难以摆脱"自家生意"，依赖关联交易，增收不增利，上半年纯利下降42%" [The spin-off of Lepu's subsidiary, Xintai Medical, for its IPO sees Pu Zhongjie struggling to break free from "family business" ties, relying on related transactions. While revenue has increased, profits have not, with a 42% decline in net profit in the first half of the year.]. 乐居财经 [Leju Caijing] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-10-01. Retrieved 2024-10-01 – via Sina Corporation.

      The article notes: "从校服到婚纱，蒲忠杰和妻子张月娥不仅是生意场上最得意的合作伙伴，二者还是同窗校友。蒲忠杰毕业于西安交通大学金属材料专业，在校期间结识了同专业的张月娥，此后结成连理。1999年6月，已获博士学位的蒲忠杰在国外求学期间接触了心脏支架研发的工作后，毅然回国，与妻子张月娥创立了乐普医疗。2009年，乐普医疗作为首批28家公司之一，登陆创业板，一举成为A股“心血管第一股”。"

      From Google Translate: "From school uniforms to wedding dresses, Pu Zhongjie and his wife Zhang Yue'e are not only the most proud partners in the business world, but also classmates. Pu Zhongjie graduated from Xi'an Jiaotong University with a degree in metal materials. During his time at school, he met Zhang Yue'e, who was also a student in the same major, and they later got married. In June 1999, after Pu Zhongjie, who had obtained a doctorate degree, came into contact with the research and development of heart stents while studying abroad, he resolutely returned to China and founded Lepu Medical with his wife Zhang Yue'e. In 2009, Lepu Medical was listed on the Growth Enterprise Market as one of the first 28 companies, becoming the "first cardiovascular stock" in the A-share market."

    3. "创业板被指为"造富机器" 年产亿万富豪500位" [The ChiNext board is labeled a "wealth creation machine," producing 500 billionaires annually.]. The Beijing News (in Chinese). 2010-10-26. Archived from the original on 2024-10-01. Retrieved 2024-10-01 – via China News Service.

      The article notes: "蒲忠杰 1963年出生。乐普医疗总经理。持股市值：66.40亿元。历任北京钢铁研究总院高级工程师，美国佛罗里达国际大学研究助理，美国WP医疗科技公司技术副总经理。他曾参与设计50余项专利，并发表15篇科研文章。1998年，蒲忠杰创办乐蒲集团。与其他创业板富豪榜相比，蒲忠杰是唯一的非实际控制人富豪，纯属“技术投资”。"

      From Google Translate: "Pu Zhongjie was born in 1963. He is the general manager of Lepu Medical. Shareholding value: 6.64 billion yuan. He served as a senior engineer at the Beijing Iron and Steel Research Institute, a research assistant at Florida International University, and the technical deputy general manager of WP Medical Technology Company in the United States. He has participated in the design of more than 50 patents and published 15 scientific research articles. In 1998, Pu Zhongjie founded Lepu Group. Compared with other GEM rich lists, Pu Zhongjie is the only rich man who is not the actual controller, and is purely a "technical investment"."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Pu Zhongjie (Chinese: 蒲忠杰) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 11:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Mehdi_Hasan_Khan

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I'm the subject in the article. I regard myself as a non-notable and private person. There are millions of people who create open-source software and that shouldn't be the bar for having a biography on Wikipedia. Furthermore, this page contains personal information on me, and my family members without any citation/source and violates their privacy as well. Mehdihasankhan (talk) 07:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Marko Stout

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Previously deleted and salted. This new creation must not escape review. Most of the sources are written in a clearly promotional tone and hence are probably not independent of the subject. As one egregious example, the first and last sources are clearly variations of the same press release - starting with In the dynamic arena of contemporary art, few names resonate as profoundly as Marko Stout vs. In the dynamic world of contemporary art, few names shine as brightly as Marko Stout‘s.* Pppery * it has begun... 02:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete again please. 4th nomination! fails WP:ARTIST. He not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to Ilizarov apparatus without prejudice against selective merge of sourced, encyclopedic content. Owen× ☎ 21:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Octopod External Fixator

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Not a notable product by itself, merely an example of what is used for Ilizarov apparatus, and could just be mentioned there rather than having an article that reads like an advertisement. ZimZalaBim talk 20:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Merge into Ilizarov apparatus Even though the article could potentially be beefed up, the topic makes no sense to be outside of its parent topic, where the use is. WP:N states This is not a guarantee that a topic will necessarily be handled as a separate, stand-alone page. Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article. And WP:MERGE states Reasons for merging ... Context: If a short article requires the background material or context from a broader article in order for readers to understand it.— rsjaffe 🗣️ 21:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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Chughtai Lab

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Fails WP:NCORP - collaborations, partnerships coverage is not useful per WP:CORPTRIV. Gheus (talk) 10:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep Very notable and prominent lab in Pakistan. Also it already has 3 existing references from major newspapers of Pakistan. AfD forum is not for clean up. Frankly, getting tired of seeing this 'dismissive attitude' towards many legitimate references as 'promotional'...Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Jason Emer

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1. It was moved from draft space to article space before it was reviewed and made live by the creator of the page

2. It was moved to draft space by other editors due to promotional tone, it seemed as it was written by someone closely connected to the subject

3. It was proposed for deletion and the final decision was to keep. However, the keep voters: 1 was a new account created just for this debate only (seems like it and it was an open IP, one was an editor banned for sock-puppetry)

4. There is someone constantly removing a section that is a bit negative about the subject

All this makes me believe that this page is being managed by someone closely connected to the subject. Additionally, i don't believe the subject is notable and most of the references are PRs and he is constantly self-promoting on the internet. WikiProCreate (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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C. K. Durga

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Promotion with "sources" like X or Facebook; I doubt the page meets GNG and BIO requirements. Old-AgedKid (talk) 08:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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UCI Health – Los Alamitos

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Does not meet WP:SIGCOV nor WP:NCORP. I thought about bundling with the Fountain Valley edition. However, there might be something about each specific location that could be found with a further in-depth search. Conyo14 (talk) 04:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep this hospital is notable, the nominator did not do a Google Search. Catfurball (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
    Did a WP:BEFORE. Aside from press releases, I couldn't find anything. However, I don't doubt the hospital had other names. Thus, if sigcov is proven, then it can remain. However, the sources there right now are better for a merge between the three articles.
    Also, WP:AGF. Conyo14 (talk) 18:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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UCI Health – Lakewood

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Does not meet WP:SIGCOV nor WP:NCORP. I thought about bundling with the Fountain Valley edition. However, there might be something about each specific location that I wouldn't want to mix with the others. Conyo14 (talk) 04:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep this hospital is notable, the nominator did not do a Google Search. Catfurball (talk) 18:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete For the Lakewood hospital in particular, there doesn't seem to be extensive non-trivial coverage. Pallikari ap' ta Sfakia 18:49, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Comment - As a private hospital, this needs to meet WP:NCORP per the nom. "Did not do a Google search" will not cut it here. We need multiple independent reliable secondary sources (per WP:SIRS) that meet WP:CORPDEPTH. There are some articles about the hospital, but what we don't have is anything that significantly discusses the hospital itself, and allows an article to be written. There is some stuff about Lakewood joining UCI that I see, but at this stage I haven't seen anything that meets CORPDEPTH. Leaning delete but leaving this as a comment for now, in the hope something can be found. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment hospitals are not part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies, they are not recognized by that WikiProject. They are only recognized by Wikipedia:WikiProject Hospitals. Catfurball (talk) 20:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, but a delsort is not a Wikiproject. Delsorts are there to flag a case so that editors with an interest will be aware of the AfD and can come to comment. This hospital is a private business venture and very much falls within NCORP guidelines. If editors are not interested in hospitals, they'll ignore it. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

UCI Health – Fountain Valley

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Does not meet WP:GNG. The sources speak of the majority of hospitals within the network but give no significant coverage of the Fountain Valley location Conyo14 (talk) 04:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep this hospital is notable, the nominator should have did a Google Search before nominating. Catfurball (talk) 17:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. The Delete views carry significantly more P&G weight than the Keep ones, resulting in a rough consensus. Owen× ☎ 18:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Chimele Usuwa Abengowe

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Firstly, the content on ref 1 which is a magazine can't be verified by any reliable source same as ref 5. Ref 2 and ref 5 are also the same link on the article current state. The only source here was this which just only talk about his death. Ref 7 which is a YouTube video showcasing a church service cant be use as a source neither any YouTube link can be use as a source. Ref 3 which just only mentioned his name as part of the medical list and not like he was talked about. Subject just totally fails WP:GNG. Gabriel (……?) 01:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

welcome again for marking another article of mine for deletion. After the last episode, you should have recused yourself from my articles and leave other editors to go through and arrive at their own conclusions. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: I can't verify certain details about this person like the date of birth and death. My search for the various information yielded "result not found" and I was wondering about the origin of other information like the award, OFR. After all these, I can say that the article doesn't meet WP:NPROF and WP:SIGCOV. Also, Gabriel's source analysis is thorough and well-documented. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep: Due to being a recipient of one of Nigeria's highest national awards (WP:ANYBIO The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor) National Honour of Member of the Order of the Niger (OON) by President Olusegun Obasanjo on the 16th November, 2000 - now sourced to Federal Republic of Nigeria Official Gazette. (Msrasnw (talk) 09:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC))
    The link you provided still doesn’t have his name on it that the president honors him with the title of OON. I opened the link used the control+F to find and paste his name still zero not found. Subject still fails WP:GNG. Gabriel (……?) 10:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Subject satisfies notability guidelines as have been severally outlined above. Cfaso2000 (talk) 13:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
One source ain't enough to justify notability. Other editors needs to be aware ‘Cfaso2000’ was the article creator. Gabriel (……?) 11:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. Seems to me he has distinguished service. Notable award too methinks.Unfortunate coverage isn’t wider. 102.91.4.54 (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
You should have just created an account to vote a keep. All this keep from newbies are now just suspicious. Gabriel (……?) 18:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Been here for 12 yrs. 102.91.4.54 (talk) 19:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Keep : Subject meet WP:Notable and there are enough references to back it up Tesleemah (talk) 08:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete: The sources provided are not enough to meet WP:GNG. VisionAfrica seems to be the most in-depth, but I could not verify its reliability - it's not listed on the RS Noticeboard. There's no WP:SIGCOV to justify an article at this time.DesiMoore (talk) 15:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
  • You don't just make claims, @Tesleemah. You may need to present the sources you're speaking of. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: SOURCE ANALYSIS:
    1. Vision Africa is an unreliable source per WP:NGRS. ✗ Fail
    2. gazettes.africa is an archive of the government gazettes of African countries, hence, it's reliable and correctly defined the content. ✓ Pass
    3. I will conder BLERF as reliable because it's been published by Nyaknno Osso, but it lacks indepth coverage and it's a listing of primary generated information. In other words, a database cannot be used as a source. ✗ Fail
    4. It lists medical practitioners registered in Nigeria, but it wasn't independent of Jim, and doesn't show his career. It was only a list. ✗ Fail
    5.Same as source 1
    6. same as source 3
    7. Without having doubts, and although Independent Newspaper (Nigeria) is reliable, the article reads like a paid publication. It's a coverage and statements by the organization who made a statue/thereabout for him.✗ Fail
    8. YouTube is unreliable and the source (username that it was gotten from) of the video is very very unreliable ✗ Fail
    Final analysis: being awarded an award may meet WP:ANYBIO. However, all these SNGs are ways to know that there may exist likely coverage about the person. Here, there is no coverage (significant) of this individual. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
    @SafariScribeThanks for your source analysis. I have concerns regarding No 7 analysis. Your statement "the organization who made a statue/thereabout for him" appears to attribute the statue to the organization mentioned in the article. This is not the case based on my reading of the article again. Nowhere in the Independent Newspaper(Nigeria) article was it mentioned that the organization created a statue for him, and I haven't found that in any other sources analysed above. The organization mentioned in this article immortalized him by naming their lecture/conference series after the subject. Regarding being a paid publication, I'm not sure about that. The subject was resting on his deathbed and an organization "probably sponsored" news articles about him, or another probability is "they attracted news attention" to his death. I really can't vouch for any organization regarding how news content emanated. But I would give the benefit of doubt, given that the subject was deceased, and being a prominent person, would attract some coverage. Whether the coverage is facilitated or not is uncertain. I don't think this source should be considered as having failed. Cfaso2000 (talk) 12:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
    Cfaso2000, about source 7, see WP:PRSOURCE. Best, Reading Beans 08:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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