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ALT1: ... that the collapse of the Tunghsing Building(pictured) during the September 21, 1999, earthquake was blamed on its faulty design, which underestimated the building's weight by 18 percent? Source: "The collegiate bench said that based on reports by the Taiwan Professional Civil Engineers Association and the Executive Yuan’s Public Construction Commission, the building’s design was flawed, with the builders underestimating the weight per floor and the building’s total weight by 18 percent." https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2014/10/04/2003601218
Comment: I know it is getting close, but could this be a special occasion hook for September 21, the 25th anniversary of the earthquake and the building's collapse? I don't mind if this doesn't get the image spot, but I'd really like to run it on the day if possible. (I have missed the opportunity four years in a row now).
Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 57 past nominations.
Clear at 100px: - The image is 500x325 px, which is on the smaller side of things. However, it is technically still clear enough to run as a lead image if there is a desire to do so.
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 14:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Epicgenius, thank you for reviewing! As I said, I don't have a strong attachment to the image. Per WP:DYKSO, could you please comment on the special occasion request? I really would like to commemorate the anniversary of the 921 quake if that is possible. —Kusma (talk) 10:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looks like an interesting hook to me and the nomination was made in time. The article itself meets all of the standards of a GA, also qualifying for the DYK size requirement with inline citations wherever necessary. The hook fact is verified, there are no copyright issues, and the QPQ is done so I am approving this.--NØ14:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that Crater Lake #2(pictured), on display at the Oregon State Capitol, was painted by Margaret Coe, the 8th great granddaughter of colonist Robert Coe? Source: Oregon Legislature, Robert Coe, Puritan, Olmstead, Henry King (2021). Olmsted genealogy, third-fourth supplement, 1923-28. Hassell Street Press. ISBN1013458974., "Curtis Claire Coe". Statesman Journal. October 29, 1996.
Reviewed: NA
Comment: I'm partial to Alt1. I'm a historian, so I imagine Alt0 is more interesting to a general audience.
Created by AnotherColonialHistorian (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Not a review, but are we sure that the impressionist painting by Coe is released under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license? The source is offline, so it's difficult to check. I'm not sure if the Oregon Legislature and Coe would need to agree to jointly release the work in order for the license to be valid. Bremps...19:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: As an art student, I concur with the nominator that ALT1 is more interesting to that field, though agree that ALT0 is a hook more interesting to a general audience. I would suggest deciding to retain only 2 of the images in this article given its short length, and would propose between the 3 currently in use to forgo the Our Lives in Paint image as it does not seem particularly helpful for the reader's understanding of her work in a way that the paintings already cover. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: Ben-Yehuda, Nachman (1996). Masada Myth: Collective Memory and Mythmaking in Israel. University of Wisconsin Press. ISBN 978-0-299-14833-1, p. xxi: "The bones of twenty-seven humans found on Masada are brought to burial in an official state ceremony."; pages 241-243: "The affair began in October 1963… Immediately, there were newspaper reports to the effect that the remains were probably of the fighters of Masada, and a state burial ceremony was called for. This issue was raised in March 1967, once again, by the same Shlomo Lorentz of the ultra-Orthodox party Agudat Israel. In a blazing speech in the Knesset he demanded that the remains of the skeletons found on Masada should be given a Jewish burial. Mr. Aharon Yadlin, then the minister of culture and education, pointed out that the Jewish identity of the skeletons had not been established and suggested passing the whole issue on to one of the Knesset’s committees. His suggestion was accepted. In fact, the Knesset’s Committee on Culture and Education held a discussion with Yadin on this particular issue in February and March of 1968… On March 12, 1969, Yigael Yadin told Haaretz that he was opposed to a public burial ceremony. He stated that the evidence of the identity of the skeletons was not conclusive enough. He also stated that he believed that the bones were those of the people of Masada but that he lacked definitive proof. In response to this, the spokesman for the Ministry of Religious Affairs stated the next day, also in Haaretz, that “the heroes of Masada came there from Jerusalem and fought the war of the holy city; therefore, it is only natural that their bones would find their final resting place on the Mount of Olives, which was a Jewish cemetery during the days of the Second Temple…. on July 7, 1969, the skeletons that had been uncovered by Yadin’s excavations about five years earlier were brought to burial in a full and formal military ceremony near Masada, at a place called “the hill of the defenders… An impressive array of dignitaries (including Menachem Begin, Yigael Yadin, and Rabbi Shlomo Goren) were present at the burial ceremonies."
I don't think this is that bad to deserve a cross, but you'll definitely want to add a cite to the first paragraph of Yadin's executions at minimum, and that's before interrogating any of the sources.--Launchballer14:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks @Launchballer: I have added a cross-ref (it had been referenced at the end of the paragraph, but the paragraph was then split in to two). Re the IP's comments, the citation quote gives all the info about the funeral, and the rest of his book is about the myth. I guess the IP is referring to the latter question. I can bring some more quotes if helpful.
For context, all the sources in the article say essentially the same thing – there is only one known original source for this event, Josephus. The Israeli national myth version differs from that story in a number of significant ways. We can add some nuance to the words "is now known to be a myth" if that is helpful, but the underlying point is beyond doubt.
The wording that it "is now known to be a myth" is simply not supported by the source provided. Perhaps "believed by some to be a myth" or even better "described by one scholar as a myth" could be supported by the citation, but "is now known to be a myth" embellishes the source far beyond any justifiable limit. Alansohn (talk) 01:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Alansohn: regarding your comment from a few weeks ago, a new section (Masada_myth#Decline) has now been added to the article as suggested by User:Uppagus. It includes a list of the notable scholars which published on this topic between 1975 and Nachman Ben-Yehuda's book in 1996, as given by Ben-Yehuda.
I have read widely on this topic, including the most recent work by Jodi Magness, and can firmly confirm that there is no scholarly debate as to whether this specific narrative is a myth. Not a single dissenting voice. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Once -- the statement is simply not supported by any of the refs. It's really that simple. Actually, this brings the entire article into question now that I consider it. Plus, it doesn't seem to warrant a standalone article at all. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6043:6D87:AEA7:B5C8 (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Launchballer: it looks like there was no objection to removing the tag, as the pinged editors declined to comment. My sense is that enough people have now read the article and sources, and have come to understand the topic and its context. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
There are POV issues with the article as it currently stands. I wrote a detailed, and yet partial explanation on the article's talk page.
Hi @Launchballer: it would be great to have a new reviewer look at this now. There was an initial aversion to the article by some editors - hence the AfD and subsequent talk page discussions. But these challenges have petered out as concerned editors found the time to read the underlying sourcing in detail, and it seems now to be clear to all that this is a well-covered subject with many decades of academic work underpinning it. The article has benefited from the additional scrutiny, which has made it even stronger. There is more work to do to continue to improve the article, but nothing that should impede us proceeding with the DYK review. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
You have my sympathy, I had similar snorts when I brought Matty Healy here. (They even nixed my P05 article.) I'm looking at this now for the first time; it's certainly strongly worded but all its claims are backed up, so this should be fine. However, you do need an end-of-sentence citation for the hook.--Launchballer10:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have done some more work to the article,[4] including adding a further source which works neatly as an end-of-sentence citation for the hook (Sheldon 1998, p. 448: "The belief system he refers to is a myth created around the story of Masada and the Jewish fighters who committed suicide there at the end of the Great Jewish War against Rome in A.D. 73. The story, as Josephus tells it, is not one of heroism. The sicarii on Masada were simply an extremist group of terrorists who had never participated in the Jewish Revolt to begin with and had spent more time killing other Jews than fighting the Romans. Modern twentieth-century Zionists, however, took the original story, eliminated the more embarrassing parts (like the massacre of Jews at Ein Gedi by the sicarii), then used the remaining core to construct a "mythical narrative" of heroism, sacrifice, and national pride for modern Israelis." Every one of the 38 citations in the article contains a version of this statement, but this is a particularly direct one. Onceinawhile (talk) 01:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@AirshipJungleman29: to be fair to Nishidani, his comment – one week ago – politely invited you to explain your position at the talk page.
To try to explain Nishidani's comment: Our guideline has been consistent for many years: "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea... Extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited." An ANI thread interpreting this for a WP:FA from a few years ago includes comments such as: "de minimis refers to each individual source; we never use more than a paragraph" and "We do not have extensive quotation from one source--the longest quote is 365 words long." That same ANI discussion identified why quotations in footnotes are beneficial in articles in controversial topic areas like Israeli history – it saves a lot of time because it allows both experienced and inexperienced editors to verify and contextualize our articles' key claims quickly. In this article, the longest footnote quote (citation #5) is 348 words long, shorter than that mentioned above. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I try to not get more into PIA than I have to, unless I notice something especially egregious. As that ANI thread reached no conclusion at all, I remain confident in my interpretation of WP:FOOTQUOTE. I noted above that other promoters may disagree, but I am unwilling to endorse what I regard as copyright violations on the Main Page. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Understood. For the record, a conclusion was reached – the article (Balfour Declaration) was promoted to WP:FA, and subsequently featured on the main page as WP:TFA. Having surveyed this in the past, I can confirm there are a number of featured articles which contain a significant amount of academic quotations in footnotes.
If consensus here requires them to be removed, I will accept that and remove them. But personally I believe that this is the exact situation that WP:FOOTQUOTE was written for, and our articles, readers and the academics who wrote the underlying sources all benefit from it. Onceinawhile (talk) 04:36, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Other problems: - Both ALTs seems promotional and may need reworking for grammar.
QPQ: None required.
Overall: Wow! "Ai Uta" is such a classic hit, so it's nice seeing an article for it. Article was nominated for DYK within the first 7 days of creation. It has over 1,500 words in prose. Citations are properly sourced. Earig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 2.9%. Nominator has less than 5 nominations, so a QPQ is not needed at this time. Some suggestions outside of DYK nomination is to follow MOS:JAPAN#Titles of media, as I see some stylized capitalization (such as Greeeen's name). The ALT looks like it can be worked into something interesting, but the way it's currently worded feels a bit promotional. How about:
ALT0a: ... that, in a 2007 survey done by Oricon, Japanese girls found the song "Ai Uta" by the band Greeeen to be a perfect love song for the autumn?"
@Lullabying: Oh I reply to your message on my talk page. I thought as it was easy there but, Yes! I address the issue above, and change the Greeeeen's name to match MOS and use your suggested hook as I think they are better the mine. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Good to go. It's OK if you reply on your talk page, but in the future please make sure to reply to the nomination instead, as the message on the talk page was meant as a notification! lullabying (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
alt1 is rejected for being unintersting (a lot of people on the list, and someone who doesn't know about it would not care). original hook is . ltbdl☃ (talk) 06:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ltbdl, Could you explain how the original hook is interesting per WP:DYKINT? I would have assumed that a person starting a farm equipment business would have prior experience in the farm equipment industry. (The lack of such a experience would be a interesting hook) Sohom (talk) 03:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: LI, Gang-feng; YAN, Hong-bo; KANG, Ming; WANG, Huan; HE, Zhi-jun; ZHOU, Qiang-ying; ZHANG, Hua-min (19 February 2017). "豆腐柴叶豆腐的加工工艺优化" [Optimization of Processing Technology of Premna microphylla Turcz Leaf Tofu]. 食品研究与开发 (in Chinese). 38 (14): 68–74. doi:10.3969/j.issn.1005-6521.2017.14.015. ISSN1005-6521. Archived from the original on 6 July 2024. Retrieved 3 July 2024.
ALT1: ... that a Premna microphylla plant (pictured) was an autonomous bonsai for an art installation?
ALT2: ... that the leaves of Premna microphylla(pictured) are used to make a green jelly called Guanyin tofu? Source: LI, Mei-qing; WANG, Yuan-li; DONG, Ming; HE, Jin-ling (2011). "豆腐柴的研究与应用综述" [Summarization of research and application of Premna microphylla Turcz]. Science and Technology of Food Industry (in Chinese) (3): 462–464. doi:10.13386/j.issn1002-0306.2011.03.029. ISSN1002-0306. Archived from the original on 3 July 2024. Retrieved 3 July 2024.
Starting review. On initial glance I feel the names section needs clean up. Inclusion of non-English vernacular names is a touchy subject with proponents both ways, so I won't outright say the section should be trimmed down. However, each name should not be an individual paragraph, as that's very close to shouting, especially with the bolding. Combining the single sentences into a paragraph will clean up the section and make it more legible.--Kevmin§00:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article expansion new enough and long enough. Article is well sourced and citations are neutrally presented where verifiable, some chinese and Japanese sources not accessible for me. All hooks are cited and sourced, with Alt2 taken agf. I would have suggested alt2 as the most unique but I cannot access the source. Alt1 is my recommendation, and it could be very interesting if the connection to Etherium blockchaining was added.--Kevmin§18:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: 日本の北朝鮮ファンクラブ、「先軍女子」がダンス披露 [Japanese North Korea fan club 'Military First Girls' performs dances]. Reuters (in Japanese). 6 November 2017.
ALT1: ... that fans of the Military-First Girls, a Japanese girl group that performs North Korean pop songs, are known as tongmu, meaning 'comrade'? Source: Mao, Yi (4 November 2017). 日本正妹哈北韓 先軍女孩爆紅 [Pretty Japanese girls, North Korea: Military-First Girls become famous]. Liberty Times (in Chinese (Taiwan)).
This is a neat fact, I'll jump on this. Article is new and long enough, and QPQ is met. Reuters is a reliable source and the primary proposed hook is obviously uncontroversial. The first hook is definitely the most direct and interesting, though personally I'd word it in a more attention-grabbing way such as "...that there is a Japanese girl group that performs North Korean pop songs?", stating it less as a fact and more as an anecdote. Not a dealbreaker if you prefer it as is though, the hook is perfectly acceptable. My main concern is with the article itself. While it's mostly presentable, seems copyright free, and has adequate sourcing, I'm concerned about the accuracy of its framing of the topic. It calls them a girl group and states they do musical performances of Korean pop. However, most sources (both utilized and other general google results) appear to call them a fan club, and I can only find any reference to them doing dance, not singing. The Reuters sources cited for them performing music has a lot of photos where they appear to be dancing without any apparent microphones, and again calls them a fan club who are dancing. This also seems more consistent with their undefined scope of membership. If they are not in fact a musical act, this is a major flaw in the article and the hook, which directly touches on them as a pop act. Do you have any sources that confirm they do any singing and are considered to be a girl group? LittleLazyLass (Talk | Contributions) 05:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@LittleLazyLass: The Liberty Times article describes them as a "girl group" (女子團體), but it literally means "girl group" and does not refer to a singing act, specifically. I've also come to realise that my understanding of the term "girl group" differs from the definition given on Wikipedia and in most English-language dictionaries. If a girl group was defined by their performances of or to music as I had understood it, then all the sources given would imply this descriptor. However, since that is not the definition of a girl group, I will adjust the article and propose new hooks tomorrow to remedy the issues you have highlighted. Thank you for your help thus far. Yue🌙07:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Much improved! I wouldn't say I see anything wrong with the hook or the article at this point, but I do think the new hook should still include reference to the fact they're Japanese as this is a significant contributor to the fact of them liking North Korean culture being striking. LittleLazyLass (Talk | Contributions) 06:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@LittleLazyLass: Thanks again for doing this review. Here's an adjusted hook:
Republic Drug Store in right half of Slagle Building
... that the Republic Drug Store (building pictured) was formed from the consolidation of an estate and its competition?
Source: (REF 2) Washington State Dept. of Archaeology & Historic Preservation "Slagle house" article 4th & 5th Paragraphs. "In 1904 he was sent to Republic ... to liquidate a drugstore that made up part of an estate"
ALT1: ... that the Republic Drug Store (building pictured) was thought to be Washington state's oldest continually family run drugstore in 2003? Source: Source: Craig, J. (June 24, 2003). "Forecast calls for keen observer". The Spokesman-Review. Vol. 121, no. 14. p. B6. "...its believed to be the oldest drugstore in continuous family ownership in Washington..."
Comment: While the "Slagle house" article is in wordpress, it was published by an official part of the Washington State government, the Department of Archaeology & Historic Preservation and thus fulfils notability criteria. The information is also found in the Washington SP Slagle, Jesse W. & Elizabeth, House article of the National Register of Historic Places; Sect 8 page 3
Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 356 past nominations.
Overall: The article was moved to the mainspace on August 3, and nominated on the same day. Length and sourcing are adequate. No plagiarism was detected. All images used in the article have a free license on the Commons. The nominated image is used in the article, is clear at a low resolution and enhances the hook. QPQ requirement is complete. The hooks are interesting, mentioned and cited in the article, and verified by the sources. My only concern is the extensive in-depth coverage of the Department of justice investigation. Could this be simplified or further paraphrased? The article appears to give a lot of weight to the investigation, making the article imbalanced due to WP:RECENTISM. Otherise I noted no concerns, and this is a welcome addition to Wikipedia. Flibirigit (talk) 21:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC) Flibirigit (talk) 21:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Flibirigit: I have gone through and trimmed down the amount of prose in the investigation section for clarity and brevity. The section is now under 1/3 of the total article prose.--Kevmin§14:51, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Aprroving nomination with the trimmed prose for the investigation. Nomination adheres to all other DYK review as per my review above. Flibirigit (talk) 17:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
New enough (August 1), long enough (22,000 B), well-sourced. All hooks cited inline. ALT0 and ALT1 verified in sources, ALT2 accepted in good faith. ALT3 not quite verified—the source says it took less than five weeks, so the phrasing in the article is okay but not the DYK hook. Approving ALT0, ALT1, ALT2. Preference for ALT0, which is the only one I really find interesting. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)22:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: Journal de Montréal (Évelyne Ferron, 19 May 2024) : « D’ailleurs, une de ses photographies les plus célèbres a été prise dans le grand studio montréalais William Notman & Son. Ces photographies sont d’autant plus importantes puisqu’elles sont parmi les dernières prises du grand chef sioux. » (French) = "In fact, one of the most famous photographs [of Sitting Bull] was taken in the great Montreal studio William Notman & Son. These photographs are especially important because they are some of the last ever taken of the great Sioux leader." (English)
Overall: Picture kind of blurry but accepted for historical reasons. The source is accepted in good faith because the source is French. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗11:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that the UDT and Fretilin political parties of Portuguese Timor fought a civil war in the same year they had earlier formed a unified political coalition? Source: see year 1975
Submitted a bit close to 11 August, but 11 September might be another notable date to run it, or 28 November if this languishes here awhile. Best, CMD (talk) 00:51, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: A very well done article. The only issue is that the statement for the hook – The interim Fretilin administration repeatedly requested Portuguese authorities return to Dili from Atauro, and left the Governor's office vacant. – needs a direct citation per Wikipedia:Did you know: the facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear. Otherwise looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that around the age of four, Jacob von Eggers(pictured) was deported to Arkhangelsk in Russia together with the entire German-speaking population of Tartu? Source: In Hohrath, 1999 (in German): "Als im Frühjar 1708 die deutschsprachige Bürgerschaft Dorpats deportiert wurde, gelangte der Dreijåhrige mit seiner Mutter nach Archangelsk". Note that other sources claim he was four, or around four, so I've written "around four".
Article is new, and long enough. No copyvio issues in English language. The hook is interesting, and cited in a reliable source. The author has recently completed a QPQ review. Nice job! Chaiten1 (talk) 21:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Edited ALT1 to match better the source. Both hook facts check out (through Google Translate). No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that German national Rico Krieger was likely forced by the Belarusian KGB to lie in a state-televised plea titled "Confession of a German terrorist"? (Source)
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I think ALT0 needs to be changed to read "Belarusian KGB" (as people will see that and think Russia) and maybe "plea" instead of "plead". The hook facts check out. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that comedian Allison Reesecame out to her parents through a group text message? Source: Rodriguez, Alexander (2023-11-19). "Allison Reese is a Comedic Star on the Rise". Metrosource. ISSN1529-935X. Retrieved 2024-08-04. So, I just sent a group text. I was just like, "Hey, think I'm gay. That cool?" Several minutes went by and I was like, oh God. And my dad finally responded, "Yep, you're good." And that's truly it. And my mom called and was like, "Hey, I know you're doing comedy. Is that like a joke?" I was like, no, it's real. And she's like, "Okay!"
Other problems: - If ALT1 is approved, then reference [1] needs to be repeated directly after the sentence "Soon after this, at the age of 22, she came out as a lesbian through a group text message to her parents, who were both supportive of her sexuality." This is necessary per WP:DYKHFC, which says "The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear."
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Bsoyka Nice work on this article. I think ALT0 is the most interesting as well, but ALT1 might also work. I'm not sure about ALT2, since many influencers get millions of views for whatever it is that they're known for. Epicgenius (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Article is new enough, well sourced, hook is interesting and QPQ is completed. I don't see anything that would hold this back from DYK, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 16:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
While I personally don't see it actually going anywhere, I'm noting that there is now an AfD discussion regarding this article. Probably need to hold on promoting until this runs its course. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 23:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
And I'm noting that the AfD was withdrawn, so this should now be ready to roll per TheBritinator's review. (I have not checked it myself.)--Launchballer19:30, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that scholar, translator, Languages Commissioner, and first justice of the peace in Nunavut Alexina Kublu is her grandmother's father and her daughter's son?
appointed the first justice of the peace in Nunavut."] Saladin d'Anglure, Bernard; Frost, Peter; Lévi-Strauss, Claude (2018). Inuit stories of being and rebirth: gender, shamanism, and the third sex (PDF). Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada: University of Manitoba Press. ISBN 978-0-88755-830-6. Retrieved 7 August 2024. Page 324.
Comment: This is a complicated one, and a meaty article at that. I thank any reviewer well for their time and patience. This DYK is tied in with the concept of atiq or atiapik, this article by the Inuit Art Foundation explains the concept quite well.
To explain, as in the article, Inuit namesakes traditionally become the person they are named after. Kublu is named after her grandmother's stepfather and thus became the elder Kublu. Her daughter is named after her father, and thus Kublu's daughter is her father.
Created by Ornithoptera (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 37 past nominations.
Overall: Wow, this is a very enticing hook! I think this could pull a lot of people in and teach them about this fascinating part of the Inuit kinship system. I've found no problems with the article; it is fully sourced, neutral and earwig only flags the long names of institutions.[6] Sources check out, so this is a very easy pass from me! Excellent work on this article, I enjoyed reading it. Grnrchst (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that due to a lack of good men, Sabrina Carpenter settles for someone who does not know the difference between "their", "there", and "they are" in her song "Slim Pickins"?
How does the source verify either of the hooks? The "lack of good men" part checks out, but the "their"/"there" etc. part is just referencing the lyrics. This is drawing a conclusion that the article doesn't state. Songs are often works of fiction, so I'm not comfortable with making these statements without a proper source. What's in the hook comes off as somewhere between synthesis and original research. I honestly have no idea what ALT1 means and its certainly not referenced in the article. The article only has the line "moanin' and bitchin'" and doesn't infer that Carpenter serves it in the kitchen: the lyrics do.
I dislike the links. It's unclear to most readers except a few pop-culture stans that "a lack of good men" and "moanin' and bitchin'" will link to a Carpenter song. (MOS:EASTEREGG)
Furthermore, I have doubts about the reliability of Capital. More than anything, it seems like a radio station, not a publication. The article comes off as somewhat sensationalist and low-quality. I can't find much on the author's credibility. Can you make a case for this source?
PerfectSoundWhatever I have seen a lot of SZA songs, like this one for example, run with the article linked to the lyrics' text. The author of the Capital article did music journalism for MTV UK ([7], [8], [9], [10]) which is generally considered a high quality source. In any case, the hooks just pertain to lyrics which can be heard in videos shared in more reliable sources like NME and The Line of Best Fit. Here's
Apologies for the 20-day delay in seeing this, as there was no valid ping. New enough and long enough. Hook fact checks out. (Encouragement: use citation templates next time!) QPQ is present as well. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2: ... that the Bergdorf Goodman Building's architecture was intended to evoke the design of the Cornelius Vanderbilt II House, which it replaced? Source: "Real Estate in City and Suburbs: $5,000,000 Vanderbilt Corner Lease Bergdorf & Goodman Co. Rents Building Planned for Fifth Ave. and 58th St. Part of Chateau Site". New York Herald Tribune. March 12, 1927. p. 24.
ALT3: ... that Bergdorf Goodman originally did not want its store to become a New York City landmark because of concerns over tenants and mortgages? Source: Dash, Earl A. (March 25, 1971). "Broadway-Hale Buys Bergdorf's: Goodman Talked To Marcus,Liked Deal N-M Got: The Same Family". Women's Wear Daily. Vol. 122, no. 58. pp. 1, 11.
Overall: Article looks good. My only concern is the hook states that it was while writing the story, whereas the article says he was a victim of an enforced disappearance shortly after ending the story. Thoughts on this? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Done. The problem was that I started writing "on the fly", and by logic, if the story is completed (the comic itself is) he must have been kidnapped after finishing it. And yet, it happened a year earlier. I then corrected the article when I realized that and sought sources with more detail, but I forgot to update the lead. As for the proposed ALT1, that doesn't seem like better wording to me. "Murdered" (a public figure by a national government) would suggest something more visible and/or public, like a firing squad execution, and just "disappeared" sounds like a magic trick. A hook should be understood on its own, without any other context at all. "enforced disappearance" is more precise and does not leave space for misunderstandings. Cambalachero (talk) 04:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article was made on the 8th, so is new enough. At almost 1700 characters, it is long enough. The article properly uses in-line citations and the copyvio detector finds no issues from the sources used. The hook is interesting and properly cited in-line in the article. No QPQ is required. Looks good to go! SilverserenC22:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: Rash, David A. (2014). "Donald MacKay". In Ochsner, Jeffery Karl (ed.). Shaping Seattle Architecture: A Historical Guide to the Architects (2nd ed.). University of Washington Press. pp. 40–45.
Hi Generalissima, review follows; article created 9 August and exceeds minimum length; article is well written; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject matter; I didn't pick up any issues with close paraphrasing from the two online sources, AGF on the other two; hook fact is interesting and mentioned in the article, AGF on offline source; QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 18:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article was created on 10 August 2024 and nominated on the same day. It is thus eligible.
The article is sourced. I did some spot checks and the references checked out.
The article is written in a neutral and non-promotional tone.
Earwig did not pick up anything noteworthy.
QPQ done.
Hook review: I generally like the hook but I think it needs some further improvement:
Which is the source you think best states the fact that just a few memoirs of Soviet POW in German captivity exist?
Additionally two tweaks are necessary in my opinion: I think we cannot state that he "published" his memoir because it was published posthumously. Also, I did not find a source that sees this memoir as dealing with the deaths of 3 million POW.
So maybe you can think of a rephrasing of the hook that only claims that he wrote the memoir and that it is one of the few memoirs of a Soviet POW in German captivity?
Thanks for reviewing. If you need another source for it, Gerlach says, "Unfortunately, few POW accounts were ever published". The book explicitly covers "das Sterben der Kameraden", the three million figure is given in the hook as it contrasts the scale of the atrocity to the lack of sources and memoirs about it. (t · c) buidhe02:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I must apologize for coming back to this so late; my life currently is a bit disorderly. I appreciate the cite; I think this first issue is fixed now. Nevertheless, I am still not convinced that we can say in wikivoice that the work is about the deaths of 3 million Soviet prisoners of war in German captivity - because this is not contained in any source. Would it therefore not be better to rephrase your hook in a way that highlights that Dawletschin wrote one of the only memoirs of the nearly six million Soviet prisoners of war, of which more than 3 million died? Sorry for the quibbling. WatkynBassett (talk) 05:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that "Trust Issues" by Drake(pictured) was originally released in 2011 as a free download? Source: Ref: Drake slows down DJ Khaled’s “I’m on One” on “Trust Issues,” another new song released as a free download via his blog.
Reviewed:
Created by Dxneo (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Thank you AirshipJungleman29, but unfortunately I don't know how I could squeeze in that "8 year gap" in the hook as I honestly don't see how anyone can miss it even if it's not literally mentioned. Any suggestions please? dxneo (talk) 01:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that children's museum La Nube(pictured) caught on fire during its construction? Source: Golden, Lianna (2023-03-14). "Safety concerns surrounding cloud shape of La Nube children's museum arise after fire". KDBC. El Paso, Texas. Retrieved 2024-08-08. Safety concerns surrounding the structure of the La Nube children's museum in downtown El Paso are surfacing after the building caught on fire Monday.
Overall: All looks good! Was very interesting reading about Bryson and I think the hook will grab people as well. DYK is often wary about publishing hooks about "firsts" but the cited source seems to be pretty clear about this. Grnrchst (talk) 11:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article became a GA on 11 August. It is long enough, well-sourced with inline citations, neutral, and without copyvio problems. The hook is good and sourced in the Spain and France section. Image is freely licensed and used in the article. No QPQ needed. - JuneGloom07Talk03:40, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article was created on time and is free from close paraphrasing. The hook is cited inline in the article, meets DYKINT, and is verified in the source. The statement about structures being wrapped in protective foil is not stated by text in the source, but pictures are shown which do show foil, so that works for me. Several statements cited to the Wenatchee World article are not in the current version of the article, such as the mention of Team 13. In addition, the article says that the fire may have "originated from a human-caused structure fire", but The Seattle Times only mentioned that the fire was "human-caused" with no mention of structures; the sentence also uses the Wenatchee World as a source and that too does not mention a "structure". A QPQ has also yet to be provided.
Source: "A pier in Morecambe was damaged, and a train in Cumbria was blown over." from: "1903 Ulysses Storm among windiest ever in British Isles". BBC News. 24 April 2023. Retrieved 9 August 2024. The other source in the article details that the pier was broken in two places, which I think is enough for the qualifier "badly"
ALT1: ... that the 1903 Storm Ulysses(damage pictured) was so named because its effects were described in James Joyce's novel of the same name? Source: "Storm Ulysses is so called because it inspired a passage in James Joyce's famous novel Ulysses." from same source as above
I think the image is by T. H. Stephenson, who is probably dead for over 70 years. (Compare the signature here). So it might be PD in the UK?
New enough, long enough, not copyvio (Earwig just finds direct quotes which are OK). Sourced nicely and neutral, no other policy issues. Hooks are sourced and interesting. I personally prefer ALT0 because we don't seem to have information on who called it "Ulysses". The image is just about OK at the size, certainly PD in the US and probably PD in the UK. QPQ has been done. —Kusma (talk) 16:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
New enough and large enough expansion. QPQ present. I am having trouble with institutional access to the journal sources, but they would belong in those specific articles. Did some copyediting. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that The New York Times said that Chișinău's effectively abandoned National Hotel is "a study in the post-Soviet dysfunctions of one of Europe’s poorest countries"? Source: NYT
Actually, I got carried away. I was copyediting the article myself and then realized that I was getting too involved to be objective. I'd like another reviewer. BorgQueen (talk) 18:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looks mainly good. I also verified the source and added an explicit mention of black magic into the article body per that source. I don't like that the coven mention is confined only to the lead, where it is unreferenced, and I don't see that word used in the source. I might recommend removing it, or I'm open to hearing a counterargument. Ed[talk][OMT]02:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Nominated five days after creation and size is 1822 B. Figuring out if ref 4 supported the text and hook needed an extra minute of thought, but the article is overall in good shape. ミラP@Miraclepine19:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2: ... that many women writers have contributed to the development of Syrian literature? Source: Firat, Alexa (2017). Syria. In: Waïl S. Hassan (ed.): The Oxford Handbook of Arab Novelistic Traditions (online edition) Oxford Academic, Oxford, pp. 439–454, https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199349791.013.29
Comments:ALT0 isn't accurate. In the source article, Samar Haddad says (translated into English): There's a trend towards making PDFs of books available as free downloads on websites. We publishers are directly affected because it's a lost opportunity to sell a book, but there's not much we can do about it. I once chatted with a young man who has a Facebook page, with a funny name in Arabic [Abu Abdo the Mule], that distributes free PDFs of books. (...) I know people who have stopped reading free copies after we've explained to them that they're harming us and the authors too. But such understanding people are rare. The thing that hurts the most about the subject is that people easily save money to buy stupid things, but not books. She says nothing about the low number of books getting published because of that. BorgQueen (talk) 19:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comments: I've reworded ALT1. The Al Jazeera news article supports the war and torture part; while it mentions the threat of imprisonment the poets are facing, it doesn't explicitly say imprisonment is a source of inspiration. In addition, the source talks about contemporary Syrian poetry, which is only one aspect of the national literature, so I added "partly". BorgQueen (talk) 19:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comments: I've struck ALT2 as there's nothing unusual about many women contributing to literature. Perhaps you could argue that Syria is an extremely male-dominated society and that makes it unusual and interesting, but our readers won't get that cultural context from the hook. BorgQueen (talk) 20:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comments: I've reworded ALT3 as well. The rationale behind Mohja Kahf's declaration of Syrian literature not existing is rather complicated actually, involving several linguistic, historical and geopolitical factors. I don't think what is written in the 2013 news article can be used to prove that Mohja Kahf completely revoked the previous statement. BorgQueen (talk) 20:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@BorgQueen: Sure, I am OK. Thanks for reading these hooks so carefully. As you known, sometimes it is hard to find a good hook supported by the exact wording of a source. So ALT1 seems best to me. Munfarid1 (talk) 22:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that Paramount Global sold the entertainment news website ComicBook.com to its former CEO Sam Savage as part of its plan to divest assets and achieve $500 million in cost savings?
Overall: Expanded from redirect from 14 to 16 August and sized at 2003 B. Prefer ALT2 for hookiness. Note that Favre1fan93 is the only nom with >=5 DYKs, so assuming DYK rules count hook proposers as nominators the review is for him. While ALT0 ref doesn't say Sam Savage, ref 4 has it covered. @Favre1fan93 and Trailblazer101: there is only one problem needed to fix: there is very close paraphrasing with "holding page with some comic book related press releases and sales links on it", including in ALT2, but replacing it with "holding page containing sales links and press releases" should be fine with respect to WP:LIMITED. Another thought I had was adding the CBS or Paramount ownership to ALT2 given how important the companies are globally (especially the latter), but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine16:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Miraclepine: I've adjusted the close paraphrasing here (I still retained at the end that they were comic book-related but let me know if that's still too much) and adjusted it in ALT2 as well. We could add in at the very end of ALT2 , formerly for CBS and Paramount if you think that would help. That would bring the hook character count up to 183. Let me know if you'd prefer that and if there's anything else. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Favre1fan93: I've had some time thinking about this, and on second thought, it's already hooky without having to be a little long, especially when combining the contrast between the narrower field the site's name suggests (comic books) and the broader field the site actually covers (general entertainment) with another large contrast (originally PRs and promo links, now news content), so ALT2 without the ending it is. ALT0-2, prefer ALT2ミラP@Miraclepine16:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Hi User:Sekundenlang, well done on getting this article to WP:GA status. It all looks good to me. I prefer your first hook, which will be intriguing to readers. I couldn’t see exactly where in the BBC link you provided where exactly it confirms the statement. It is possible that the article has changed since you posted it? Perhaps you could bring an excerpt quotation. Thank you. Onceinawhile (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Found a Guardian link:Reply
Source: Deaths were in two of the mutinies on 6 and 11 September: "the Egyptians tried to get out of their camp and were fired on by the garrison battalion, who killed twenty-three ... "reinforcements were called in. Again there was shooting, in which five were killed" from p255 of James, Lawrence (1987). Mutiny in the British and Commonwealth Forces, 1797-1956. London: Buchan & Enright. pp. 252–257. ISBN0-907675-70-0. I have gone with 27 as >Grint, Keith (2021). Mutiny and Leadership. Oxford University Press. pp. 280–281. ISBN978-0-19-289334-5. gives four killed on 11 September and the CWGC lists seven who died on that day.
Article is well written, neutral and supported by inline citations.
Both hooks are short enough, correctly formatted and supported by inline citations.
No copyvio detected on Earwig
QPQ done
I think the original hook is slightly ambiguous. It could be interpreted as meaning that at least 27 men were killed on each of the 2 occasions. If 'twice' was removed this would remove ambiguity and still be accurate.
So suggest ALT2 "... that in 1917 British soldiers in France opened fire on mutineers from the Egyptian Labour Corps, killing at least 27 of them?"
ALT1 approved for 6 September
Altogether a very detailed, informative and interesting article
... that English amateur geologist Charlotte Eyton wrote a number of papers and pamphlets on the geology of the Wrekin, a part of Shropshire, between 1862 and 1870?
Source: Charlotte Eyton, the daughter of Thomas Campbell Eyton, a well-known Shropshire naturalist, published six notes and papers (mainly concerning investigations of glacial formations) in the Geological Magazine between 1866 and 1870; she also wrote a monograph, Notes on the Geology of North Shropshire (1869). reference - Creese and Creese, 1994, p 10 https://www.jstor.org/stable/4027579?seq=10
There don't seem to be any major issues with this article, although I do wonder if the mere fact that an amateur geologist wrote geological papers is really all that interesting... KINGofLETTUCE 👑🥬04:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you - fair point, but actually it was rare for women (and for amateurs) to publish papers in scientific journals, so this is the reason that it is interesting, or at least notable. Chaiten1 (talk) 07:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Doesn't seem immediately obvious to the lay reader. And is that mentioned in the article/sources? Otherwise there may be a hint of OR in there. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑🥬10:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
This wider context is in the cited reference (Creese and Creese,https://www.jstor.org/stable/4027579) which describes the British women who contributed to geological research in the 19th century, and highlights the contributions of independent/amateur women to the field in the mid-1800s. Chaiten1 (talk) 11:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Will be claiming this for review, but so far it looks good. The article was initially created in 2022 but was moved to userspace to be worked on as a draft; the article was moved back to mainspace on August 15, the day of the nomination, so for DYK purposes it should count as a new article. Earwig is down at the moment so I cannot check for close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been done. I have yet to check all statements in the article, but as for the hooks, my preference is the original one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I was, I had just gotten busy with real-life matters over the last few days to be able to check all of the statements. For what it's worth, I didn't find any close paraphrasing, with the only Earwig hit being the quote that's already in the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article is new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. Earwig is giving me the "Too Many Requests" error right now so I am unable to check for close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been done. Almost all the sources are offline so I will assume good faith for the sourcing. The main issue right now is the hook: it's only mentioned in the lede without a citation. The rest of the article does not appear to directly support the "routinely imprisoned" statement, only that Witnesses have been regularly arrested and some have been jailed. My suggestion would be a rephrasing of the hook to make it closer to the article text. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Narutolovehinata5 Have changed it to "many" (and specified that it's ~6 annually according to the BBC) have been imprisoned (although it's effectively a routine IMO, but you're right that the sources cited don't quite say that.) Appreciate the ping, Clover! KINGofLETTUCE 👑🥬17:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Just one last minor issue before I approve this: the phrase "although they do not receive permanent criminal records." is very close to the BBC source, so if it's possible to rephrase it, that would be appreciated. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Can't think of a suitable rephrase at the moment (is it right to infer that they are given "temporary" records instead? I don't think so.) It's a basic fact KINGofLETTUCE 👑🥬10:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello–I am very sorry for the delay. Article is new and long enough, well-sourced, copyvio free, QPQ done. I also think the article is fairly neutral and accurately presents the objective facts and timeline of events. I had to add two {{failed verification}} tags because I did not see those claims in any of the cited sources. If I overlooked something despite my best efforts, please let me know. Vis-a-vis the hooks: since ALT3 failed verification, we cannot use it until that is addressed. ALT1 is my preference, as it demonstrates the impact this had on the community. ALT2 I like too, more emotionally centered, but I wonder to others if it would be less interesting than the community response. Zingaresetalk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 15:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Zingarese: It took me nearly five days to get back to this, so no need to apologize. The issues in the article have been fixed. I had referred to the wrong NYT article on the source for ALT3 in the article, but the source for ALT3 I gave in this nomination was correct. Thanks for your thoroughness. Apocheir (talk) 00:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for clarifying that about ALT3 (and sorry I overlooked that), and for fixing the verification issues in the article. I've checked the article again and deem it good to go. My preference would now be ALT3. Thank you for your fantastic work. Zingaresetalk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 01:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment: Sources in article. Might be some other hooks to be written from interesting match facts mentioned in prose about the league. Taking suggestions on if "football" needs to be in the hook, and where it would go.
Created by Kingsif (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 130 past nominations.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Looks good. AGF on the source which I can't read. Maybe the word 'football' could be added like follows? ... that in 1989, the Barcelona football women's second team was knocked out of the Catalan Cup in the same round as the Barcelona women's first team? Do you think that works? If not, I think the initial hook could probably work as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment: First UK radio article! And this one was held up by sticks and stones. It also had a major date error which had propagated to three timelines and a YouTube video title.
5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 705 past nominations.
Hi Sammi Brie, glad to see some interest in British local radio and good work sorting out the date error, especially as it had spread! Review: article more than 5x expanded from 15 August; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what looks to be reliable sources; I unfortunately don't have access to most of the sources but happy to AGF there is no overly close paraphrasing from them, Earwig check is clear and I didn't find any issues in a spotcheck on some I could access; hook facts are interesting enough to me. mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited therein; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 12:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Looks good to me. Hook is interesting, cited, and the article is well-written. Comes in just barely at 1592 characters and nominated 6 days after creation. QPQ done. CFA💬02:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Mostly good. AGF on the hook sources (one offline, other is restricted by paywall). The only issue I see is that the sentence for ALT0 sounds a little confusing: Director Yutaka Yamamoto later recalled that "Haruhi [Suzumiya] was perfectly equal to [Ikeda]," who also admitted said that she herself thought Haruhi was "just like me". Could that be re-worded (the 'admitted said' part)? Looks good otherwise. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
article is fine. i don't understand greek and i'm using machine translation, but why is the source is written in the first person? ltbdl☃ (talk) 07:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I believe it's because it's lifted from the book mentioned in the article (which is not available online). Deiadameian (talk) 12:15 18 August 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that a magical rainbow dog from medieval legend may have been a symbolic representation of love? Source: Grasmik, Kristina (2012). Das Wunderhündchen Petitcreiu. Semantische Unterbrechungen der Handlung in Gottfried von Straßburgs "Tristan" (in German). GRIN Verlag. ISBN978-3668472556.
Thanks, but I'm afraid—I just Googled it—GRIN Verlag is a German self-publishing company. We generally do not accept self-published sources as per WP:SPS. BorgQueen (talk) 17:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ah, that's quite disappointing. Do you think the source and its paragraph should be removed from the article entirely, or can it be left because it's being used just to cite the author's analysis? Di (they-them) (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, the source and the paragraph will have to be removed altogether, unless you can somehow prove the author is an expert in their field so we can make an exception, or you can find a more reliable source to support the claim. BorgQueen (talk) 18:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2 AGF checks out and is short enough and interesting. I'm aware that some moan about hooks having to be a definite fact, but I don't think that really applies here given that the article subject is a legend. Let's roll.--Launchballer20:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that the Quechua chief Quinto Inuma Alvarado was assassinated while returning home from a meeting of environmental leaders?
Source: [13] [My translation] On the evening of Wednesday 29 November, a group of hooded people assassinated Quinto Inuma Alvarado [...] Quinto Inuma was returning from a meeting of environmental defenders held in Pucallpa, Ucayali, between November 23 and 26.
ALT1: ... that the week Quinto Inuma Alvarado was assassinated, he said at a conference, "If I must die, I will die"? Source: [14] [My translation] "[...] If I must die, I will die" was one of the last statements the apu made, during his participation at a meeting of leaders held in Pucallpa, from 23 to 27 November.
Article is new enough, long enough, and sourced. Hooks are interesting and short enough. Hooks are mostly supported but I am not finding an in-line citation for his status as a "Quechua chief". Hopefully, this can be added. QPQ satisfied. Cbl62 (talk) 12:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Cbl62: I had assumed the term "apu" was synonymous with "Quechua chief", but I realize now it's better to be precise. I have added a citation to call him a "Kichwa tribal leader" (with Kichwa being a more specific term than Quechua). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)14:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that after some of Anders Årfelt's lion sculptures (example pictured) were struck during the 2017 Stockholm truck attack the city ordered new versions weighing 3 tonnes (3.3 tons)?
Source: "Konstnären Anders Årfelts betonglejon kan ha räddat livet på människor under terrorattacken på Drottninggatan i Stockholm förra året. Nu vill Stockholms stad sätta upp fler och större lejon ... De nya lejonen väger tre ton, jämfört med de vanliga som väger 900 kilo." which Google translates as "Artist Anders Årfelt's concrete lion may have saved the lives of people during the terrorist attack on Drottninggatan in Stockholm last year. Now the city of Stockholm wants to put up more and bigger lions ... The new lions weigh three tons, compared to the usual ones that weigh 900 kilograms." from: "Nya större lejon ska göra Stockholms gator säkrare". SVT Nyheter (in Swedish). 27 February 2018. Retrieved 16 August 2024.
Tributes on a lion sculpture
ALT1: ... that a lion sculpture by Anders Årfelt became the site of tributes to victims of the 2017 Stockholm truck attack(pictured)? Source: "och nu riktas även hyllningarna mot en dold hjälte – betonglejonet ... Sedan fredagen har lejonet överrösts av massor av blommor, ljus och kärlek och vi håller med om att lejonet skulle bli ett fint minnesmärke." which Google translates as: "now the tributes are also directed at a hidden hero – the concrete lion. ... Since Friday, the lion has been drowned out by lots of flowers, candles and love and we agree that the lion would make a nice memorial." from: "Därför borde betonglejonet som räddade Stockholm bli en staty - Metro Mode". metromode.se (in Swedish). 2017-04-12. Retrieved 16 August 2024.
Overall: Both hooks are good, but my preference is Alt1 because: (1) hook is shorter and quicker to grasp; (2) the accompanying image for that one is more colourful and eye-catching. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article was promoted for GA on August 18, so it's eligible. Everything is sourced, images look fine too. I prefer the first hook, the second one is also not bad, but the third one is too obscure for me.
The hook now says features a fourth-wall breaking monologue, but in the article it is delivers a fourth wall–breaking monologue. Should it instead be "a fourth-wall-breaking monologue"? I also can't find it in the source provided, can you please point me to the right section of it? Artem.G (talk) 14:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Artem.G: Here: "And while this fake family that only existed for a meta-gag realizes their non-existence, a commercial announcer starts reading a disclaimer which is about Community the game, until it's just about Community" fourth wall and meta are pretty much interchangable. I changed the hyphen and slightly altered ALT1 to flow better. Questions?fourOlifanofmrtennant (she/her)16:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that the Shrine of Taharqa was coated in nitrocellulose? Source: Hanna, Seamus; Norman, Mark (1990). "The cleaning and removal of surface coatings from a seventh century BC sandstone shrine from Nubia". Studies in Conservation. 35 (sup1): 23–27. doi:10.1179/sic.1990.35.s1.006. ISSN0039-3630.
Hi Geni, review follows: article created 17 August and exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't find any issue with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on some of the sources; hook facts are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited; I probably prefer ALT1 which also avoids a potential issue about with referring to Sudan, which didn't exist at the time it was built. I saw in the source for ALT1 that it is the "only [Ancient] Egyptian building in the United Kingdom" which might make an interesting hook if it was correct? Image is freely licensed and uploaded by nominator, a QPQ has been carried out - Dumelow (talk) 13:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that Ron Tiavaasue was born in Samoa, grew up in New Zealand, played college football in the United States, and plays professional football in Canada?
Overall: Article was just about new enough at nomination (moved to mainspace August 18th, nominated August 25th). Just the very minor citations issue to be fixed and then I'd be happy to pass this :] Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment: There's a blurb there where there's a mention of the CIG being reestablished in 2005. However, I can only go on to say that Gen. Brawner Jr. mentioned in public that the unit will be fully reestablished on December 21, 2023. This one's widely reported in Philippine media.
Open to alternate hooks.
Created by Ominae (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.
Approved the first hook. Article length and age are good, copyvio and plagiarism free, source seems to be reliable. Hook is interesting, I personally find it interesting of the usage of "scalawags" in official communiques. QPQ done. I think orphan tags are allowed to exist for it to be presentable but it would be nice to get some links to the article if you have time, but it isn't an issue for the nom. Looks good to me :) PersusjCP (talk) 19:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi Cambalachero! Overall, I think the article is well-written. Earwig showed no copyright violations, and the article was moved to mainspace on 16 August, so it is new enough. However, I have some concerns about the plot section. Although there are no specific standard for its length and the current plot summary is sourced, I think it is a bit too lengthy, as it is longer than the lead, editorial history, and reception sections combined. Trimming it down to around 400 to 700 words would be more suitable for the article, so it does not overly focus on in-universe content. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul)13:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Done, just made it significantly shorter. Articles about comics tend to be magnets for people compelled to add every detail of the plots, you get distracted for a couple of days and the plot section grows exponentially. Cambalachero (talk) 15:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi Llewee Yes, I regard it as a usually reliable source. For this article they cite contemporary accounts from two local newspapers and include an image from the National Archives. The evidence is supported by contemporary photographs. Papamac (talk) 19:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
New enough, long enough. Article is in a decent condition. I would suggest changing "local citizens" to " local people" as the former could indicate British citizens which presumably they weren't. The quote is interested and the reliability has been discussed. QPQ done. Llewee (talk) 22:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Looks good. Nice work. It might be better with some modifications, such as clarifying that he's a football player, (e.g. ALT1 ... that in college, football player Cooper Mays was a member of the same offensive line as his brother?) but I think either way it should work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment: I am not a native English speaker, so if there are any unnatural expressions in the text or hooks, I will appreciate it if you could improve them. this is my first recommendation to DYK, so please advise me if there are any mistakes.
Created by 狄の用務員 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Article is new enough and long enough. WP:EARWIG says "Violation Unlikely". QPQ is not necessary. I'm going to AGF on the Japanese sourcing. Personally, I prefer ALT2, but ALT1 is also good. Overall, seems good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Shouldn't it be "was regarded"? "is regarded" make it sound like a general consensus, when it was one writer's opinion. Even then, it appears to present the source's praise more unquestioningly than the source itself. It looks like the (only) source is being over the top intentionally. They admit their overenthusiasm and the inadequacy of the comparison when they say いやいや、流石にこの2つを並べるのは五輪側に失礼じゃあないか in the same article. Will the ALT2's wording convey the tone? --2001:240:2428:D68C:A88A:93:AE50:2C3F (talk) 00:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I personally think the source is a normal article, consistent with reliable sources, of a normal tone, of a normal media outlet.狄の用務員 (talk) 13:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article is newly expanded, and of high quality. There are no copyvio issues in the English language. The hook is short, to the point and interesting, and is cited in a reliable source (in Hungarian, but confirmed by online translation). I don't see any need to change anything. The author has recently completed two QPQ reviews. Nice job! Chaiten1 (talk) 16:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
"This is as close to featured quality as I'll ever get...on my own terms."
— Yours truly, in soliloquy, 11:10 p.m., 19/8
This season on Extreme Makeover: Wikipedia Edition: A 1993 bestselling sensation that made millions for its compiler and led to several follow-ups, including a PBS animated series--and (par for the course with such ventures) a couple of competitors. (Ignoring his personal/career controversies and the age of the tales he collected.) Despite its status, its WP article never got the attention worthy of its legacy (in the 16! years since I last chanced upon editing it), hardly moving past the few paragraphs it was allocated back then. Think of the parable of the Good Samaritan,[1] and you'll realise my role in the proceedings this month. (Can't quite recall how I suddenly reapproached it days ago, though.) Optimised reconstruction of link chain on Android Chrome that brought me back there, thanks to a little perusal of TV Tropes on August 15 (and considering the browser's limitations, it was a chore getting to that date): Happily Ever After: Fairy Tales for Every Child → "The Fisherman and His Wife" → "The Frog Prince" → Adventures from the Book of Virtues.
I've heard talk that stubs are considered the ugly ducklings[1] of this project. Well, sir, I mustered up enough courage--and sacrificed enough time--to turn this specimen into a swan nineteen-fold[2] by the time of this nomination (according to WP:Prosesize). (Cf. my efforts on Apparition (company) back during last year's Memorial season.)
As a side note, work on this DYK candidate coincided with the U.S. political conventions.
Even though this won't lead to a coveted Four Award, I'm in the running for the other three fragments. Could this lead to my first FA star in the next three or so months? Until then, wish me luck, and stay tuned for my next DYK nomination (before this month's over).
Article has been massively expanded, well over 5x, starting on 17 August. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. QPQ is done. Hooks are interesting and sourced. I like ALT2 myself- always nice to see PBS on the front page. All ready to go. Congratulations on this expansive expansion! Thriley (talk) 17:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: AGF on foreign language source. A little unclear on whether image is properly licensed. Do we know anything about date of publication? Ergo Sum04:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you @Ergo Sum: Regarding the image, it is used in the Moumni 2020 Brill-Muqarnas article in the bibliography. They say "Fig. 3. Anonymous, Mustafa Khaznadar and His Son Muham-mad, circa 1855. Oil on canvas, 82 × 131 cm. Tunis Institut National du Patrimoine, collection Qsar es-Saïd, inv. no. 46-07-28-83." If the unknown artist was 30 when painting it, that would mean they were born 200 years ago, and thus are statistically likely to have died more than 100 years ago. Tunisia copyright law expires after 50 years from the death of the creator if known, or 50 years from publication if anonymous. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT0 looks interesting, and both hooks are verified from the sources. The article is eligible size-wise, with no copyvios, and the nomination is timely. Would it be a good idea to mention the artist's name in the hook though as that sounds like basic information readers would be interested in.--NØ04:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. AGF on German-language sourcing. Reasonably exciting hook for the subject. Suggestions for promoter: add "of Liechtenstein" after "cabinet" in the hook to provide a geographic clue to readers. Also skeptical if "second" needs to be capitalized in running text. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2: ... that Samuel Barber said he could not adequately play his own Piano Sonata? Source: Sherman, Robert; Barber, Samuel (2010) [1978]. "Samuel Barber Interviewed by Robert Sherman (1978)". Samuel Barber Remembered: A Centenary Tribute. Boydell & Brewer. ISBN978-1-58046-350-8. JSTOR10.7722/j.ctt7zsv91.11., "I played [the sonata] for [Horowitz] at his house and I fell on the floor at the end of the third movement—that was really just a joke, but they were a little worried about me. It was awfully hard!" and Tocco, James (1977). "Happy Birthday, Samuel Barber!". Camera Three. CBS., Barber: "My sonata? No, no, no. I can't [play it]."
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Alt2 is the best out of the three. Alt0 could be interesting, but too vague - "this period" needs clarification, might be helpful if the year that the NYT made the comment was added. Alt1 I don't find interesting at all and would not recommend. All three hooks are properly sourced. Please ping me once the QPQ is complete so that I may approve the nomination.QPQ complete. Prefer alt3 to alt2 but both can be used.
Earwig doesn't flag any copyvio. The article is of good quality and in my opinion could pass a Good Article nomination if the nominator is interested in that. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Jaguarnik:, hello and thank you for the review. I also agree that Alt2 is probably going to be the most interesting to a broad audience. Maybe I could revise it a bit:
ALT3: ... that Samuel Barber, himself an accomplished, conservatory-trained pianist, said he could not adequately play his own Piano Sonata? Source: Sherman, Robert; Barber, Samuel (2010) [1978]. "Samuel Barber Interviewed by Robert Sherman (1978)". Samuel Barber Remembered: A Centenary Tribute. Boydell & Brewer. ISBN978-1-58046-350-8. JSTOR10.7722/j.ctt7zsv91.11., "I played [the sonata] for [Horowitz] at his house and I fell on the floor at the end of the third movement—that was really just a joke, but they were a little worried about me. It was awfully hard!", Tocco, James (1977). "Happy Birthday, Samuel Barber!". Camera Three. CBS., Barber: "My sonata? No, no, no. I can't [play it]." and Heyman, Barbara B. (2001). "Barber, Samuel (Osmond)". In Stanley Sadie; John Tyrrell (eds.). The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (2nd ed.). London: Macmillan.
@Zingarese: Personally I think alt 3 works a bit better than alt2, since it gives more context to why it's so surprising that Samuel Barber could not play his own sonata. I would remove "accomplished", not because he wasn't accomplished, but to avoid MOS:PUFFERY and because I don't think it's super necessary.Jaguarnik (talk) 20:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Article has no major issues and the hooks are sourced in the article text. Earwig did turn up a 35.1%, but everything that got flagged appears to be quotes or minor phrases. My only real concern is that the lack of a reception section in the article might leave a bit to be desired for some, but I'm pretty sure that's out of the scope for this, especially since the album just released. Both hooks are good, though I personally prefer ALT1. I'll leave it up to whoever puts the article in queue. Good job. λNegativeMP119:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I have added a brief reception section for now but I imagine it will get bigger by the time the hook runs.--NØ23:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oval bowl by Blue Mountain Pottery, with the distinctive blue-green glaze
... that Blue Mountain Pottery started when a Czech worker in Ontario scraped clay off his boot and said it reminded him of clay he had used to make ceramics in Czechoslovakia?
ALT1: ... that Blue Mountain Pottery in Canada exported 60% of its pottery, with two-thirds of the exports going to the United States and the rest to the UK and Europe? Source: "Blue Mountain Pottery", Legacy Antiques.
ALT2: ... that Blue Mountain Pottery's wares had a distinctive drip glaze, particularly blue-green and black, so that each piece was unique? Source: Ned Morgan, "How Pottery Saved Blue Mountain", Mountain Life, July 7, 2014
ALT3: ... that porcelain bowls, vases, and figurines made by Blue Mountain Pottery in Ontario were popular wedding presents in Canada in the 1960s and 1970s? Source: Mary Dunk, "The Blue Mountain Pottery Story", Reader's Digest.
A QPQ was supplied within four hours of the above notice and is present. The article is a new enough expansion. The hook facts check out, with a strong preference toward ALT0 for a promoter. Beautiful pieces. No textual issues—quote is attributed, and other common phrases are banal. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
On reflection, I changed the image caption slightly, from "Small bowl" to "Oval bowl". There is nothing in the image to give a scale, so best not to comment on size. "Oval" acts as a descriptor for visually impaired readers. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Article was nominated within 7 days of creation. It is over 1,500 bytes long and is well-sourced. Earwig gave an unlikely violation of 0%. Hook is interesting and well-cited. This is the nominator's first nomination, so a QPQ is not needed at this time. One minor fix I suggest before I pass this is where it discusses the criticism of the basketballs on the statue. The criticism part is cited but the Twitter part is not and I'm not sure if that's important to mention. lullabying (talk) 02:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Lullabying: Hello, thanks for reviewing. For some reason, citation #2 on this DYK nom page (which is #5 in the article), has gone 404 between the time I wrote the article and when you just reviewed it. But that source has in-depth analysis about various Twitter reactions critical of the three-ball design; the title even ends with and the internet had some thoughts. Here is an archive link. Left guide (talk) 03:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I originally shrugged at it having three balls, but then actually read the article for the backstory. Explicitly mentioning that it was scrapped makes it more compelling for me, who otherwise thought it was one of many random iterations. I add a new alt for consideration:
... that Russian pianist Pavel Kushnir was arrested for anti-war videos posted in a YouTube channel with only five subscribers, and became the first political prisoner to die in a dry hunger strike in modern Russia? Source: [15], first paragraph: "Pianist Pavel Kushnir died on July 28 after a dry hunger strike in a pretrial detention center in the Far Eastern city of Birobidzhan. He was 39 years old. The musician was detained in late May by FSB officers - he was accused of publicly calling for terrorism because of anti-war videos that he published on his YouTube channel with five subscribers."[16] - for "the first political prisoner to die in a dry hunger strike in modern Russia", article says that the last person who died of a hunger strike was Anatoly Marchenko in USSR in 1986.
Cited: - 1986 is modern though? Personally I would revise the hook (see below), as the first part is more interesting than the first person to die on a particular type of hunger strike in 35 years or so.
Interesting:
Other problems: - I don't think we can run "only" as it would be editorializing
Hey, thanks for the review! In 1986 it was still the USSR, and "modern" was about the Russian Federation. But yeah, an agree that it's not necessary; I think ALT1 is fine, thanks for copyediting.
ALT1: ... that G Affairs was presented at project markets in Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong, but was rejected because it was deemed unmarketable in China? Source: [3]
Overall: The main hook is approved, and the check reflects this – the sources seem to indicate it may have been for political reasons (which would make the hook a bit more interesting IMO, but it's fine as is). I'd propose removing the word "the" for ALT1 before "project markets" to make it grammatically correct for ALT1 – make that change, and it's approved as well. Great work on this! Nomader (talk) 18:16, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi Nomader, thanks for reviewing and providing feedback! I have removed the extra "the" in the alternate hook. I had considered mentioning the political reasons for To quitting filming in the initial draft of the article, but it seemed a bit digressive from the focus on the film's production, so I did not include it. I am open to adding it in both the article and hook if you think that would make things better. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul)12:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Prince of Erebor: I think that a brief mention in a sentence wouldn't be too off-topic and the context is important – but I think it could just be a brief mention instead of a full paragraph or something. That said, the current hooks are both just fine as is as well and my original approval is still good to go here. Nomader (talk) 02:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
^Chambers, Isaac (14 March 2019). "Chapman To quits acting in movies". Far East Films. Retrieved 22 August 2024. Hong Kong actor Chapman To ('Infernal Affairs', 'The Mobfathers', 'Isabella', 'Vulgaria') has announced in an interview that he will stop acting in movies. Instead, he will focus on working on his online TV channel, 'Chapman To's Late Show'... His latest movie, 'G Affairs' (pictured below), may therefore be his last film appearance.
^鍾志均 (28 March 2019). "狂嗆演員低能 杜汶澤臉書提醒18禁" (in Chinese). Liberty Times. Retrieved 21 August 2024. 日前受訪表示該片將是他最後一部電影作品,讓他也十分關注在台上映的觀眾反響 [In a recent interview, he [Chapman To] stated that this film (G Affairs) will be his last film appearance, therefore he expressed great interest in the audience's response during its release in Taiwan.]
^王誦賢 (16 November 2018). "【G殺‧專訪】純港產片無人肯投資? 導演:無大陸市場搞唔到!" (in Chinese). HK01. Retrieved 20 August 2024. 當時他們到處找不同投資者,當中包括金馬創投會及富川電影節的創投會,可是通通換來一句,「套戲無可能在大陸拍到,無大陸市場」,之後李導與編劇回去改劇本,創造一個較富香港元素的故事。兩年後,當李導以為成功加入香港電影節投資會時,卻再次換來一句︰「你哋無大陸市場,搞唔到」。 [At that time, they (the filmmakers) sought various investors, including the Golden Horse Film Festival and the Bucheon International Fantastic Film Festival's project markets, but encountered repeated responses stating, "This film cannot be filmed in mainland China, it is unmarketable there." Subsequently, Lee and the writer (Kurt Chiang) returned to revise the script to create a story with more Hong Kong elements. Two years later, when Lee thought he had successfully joined the Hong Kong - Asia Film Financing Forum, he was met with the response, "You guys cannot make it into the mainland Chinese market, it won't work."]
Overall: I'll be honest - nineteen-year-old says "I'm mean and I want to hit new people" isn't my dream hook. That being said, it is the most "hooky" bit of information in the article. Everything else seems to be in order, at least for DYK standards. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:24, 7 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Unusual life, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. This ref has a day of birth. I made some small changes, please check. I wonder why you don't give us readers an infobox, - I first thought Margrit Waltz was the name of the pictured airplane ;) - I am not happy with the hook, because I believe that it's only quirky if we get to know that her #1 love will always be flying, not some other man. I am also not sure if, with such an unusual record of 900 trans-Atlantic flights, we should go for some little quirkiness instead of that unusual achievement. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the review and for finding the German-language source! I've added the date of birth and an infobox. How about:
ALT1: ... that Margrit Waltz holds the record for the most trans-Atlantic flights?
ALT2: ... that Margrit Waltz has ferried almost 1000 planes across the Atlantic?
Thank you, I like both, and could also imagine a combination. - On the Main page right now Jerzy Artysz, and all the hook says is that he was honoured by a music university on his 70th birthday. Nothing about him as an unusual person. I don't recall any other baritone who performed so many title roles, - they usually go to the high voices. Sad. I had no time nor energy to fight it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2a: ... that Margrit Waltz has ferried almost 1000 planes around the world?
I see, but think "around the world might be misunderstood, no? Perhaps the 900 across the Atlantic are less vague, and interesting enough. At present, ALT1 is approved, I moved ALT2a below the approval, because I'm afraid not every prep builder will study the history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2b: ... that Margrit Waltz has ferried almost 1000 planes to points on five continents?
Overall: The plot section does not have inline sourcing, but this is not required per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. ALT2 talks about using a bedpan to save and needing to empty it to save again, which is not exactly what the hook says. It may need to be reworded if it is the hook chosen, but I believe other hooks are more interesting anyway, especially ALT3. The source provided for ALT3 does not mention humanitarian aid, but this is mentioned in other sources in the article. I believe this DYK is ready to go. Muhandes (talk) 11:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that a banker was named the prime minister of Equatorial Guinea to succeed a government that resigned for being "ineffective"?
Source: News Central Africa ("Equatorial Guinea’s President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo has appointed former bank chief Manuel Osa Nsue Nsua as prime minister, following a decree issued nearly three weeks after the previous government resigned for being 'ineffective.'")
ALT1: ... that a banker was named his country's prime minister to succeed a government that resigned for being "ineffective"? Source: same
Comment: Open to other ways of wording or other ALT hooks. Was hoping to get this Equatoguinean featured in some way (since not many get featured after all - this would be only the country's third-ever DYK bio!).
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 240 past nominations.
Overall: References were spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. I would suggest changing "emperor" to "president" though, because Yuan Shikai's tenure as the first president of the Republic is more notable than his brief stint as a pretender to the throne, hence his common description by historians and in his article as the "first Chinese president". Yue🌙04:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I was initially going to put President, but I think the fact that a republic continued to put someone who declared himself emperor on their coinage is funny and interesting to me. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that although the vast majority of violence against Jews in Germany is committed by ethnic Germans, accusations of antisemitism focus on minorities? Source: "usually, with around 95% of them [antisemitic physical attacks] committed by right- wing (leaning) white German individuals"[17]; "public accusations of antisemitism are increasingly directed at two groups: (1) designated Others (Muslims and other racialized minorities who seldom engage in anti-Jewish hate crimes) and (2) public intellectuals who are for the most part white ethnic Germans (including Jews and Christians) who demonstrate solidarity with these minorities" [18]
ALT1: ... that one researcher found that nearly a third of the people cancelled over antisemitism allegations in Germany have been Jews? Source: In addition to the source cited in the article, it can be verified here: "According to the researcher Emily Dische-Becker, almost a third of those cancelled in Germany for their supposed antisemitism have been Jews."
ALT2: ... that Eyal Weizman said that descendants of Nazi perpetrators "who murdered our families ... now dare to tell us that we are antisemitic"? Source: numerous
All hooks look very good to me and the article itself is high quality. It meets the size requirements without any copyright violations. The nomination is timely. The hooks appear in the cited sources; I do not have familiarity with them to be able to comment on reliability but I trust the nominator to know their stuff about this subject matter. G2G--NØ11:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: I am okay with sourcing as spot checks passed. However, I think you should actually link all the newspaper articles where possible so that any reviewing admin can also verify the sources. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Panamitsu: I need you to please fix source 4, cited several times. Atlas Obscura articles are user-generated and user-editable with minimal oversight, and the site's terms of use includes disclaimers about user submissions. Many of the "places" articles cite Wikipedia as a source of their information or otherwise lack clear or reliable sourcing. Per WP:GUNREL: These articles should generally not be referenced on Wikipedia. I personally would have no issue with you using this source once or twice for something uncontroversial, however unfortunately for an article to appear on the Main Page, I don't think this source is gonna cut it. I can seek a second opinion if you want, but I would hate to approve it only for an admin to step in and decline to post...— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@MaxnaCarta: Thanks for telling me this, I hadn't seen this website before. I've removed it now. Luckily the other sources were already used for the same information so I didn't have to make many changes, except for removing a name and a year. ―Panamitsu(talk)02:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Panamitsu: all good, thanks for actioning so fast. I will review the rest of the sources and come back to you. I dont anticipate any issues. Looks okay from here. Cheers — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Cited: - no, ALT1 -> sources in article refer to charts released after the date of release, so not "ahead of the film's 19 July 2024", and are not the sources in the hook
Article qualifies as a 5x expansion as the expansion began on 26 August (per DYKcheck), the same day it was nominated at DYK. Creation date is not relevant in the case of a more recent 5x expansion, the date that matters was the date the expansion began. Pinging reviewer Bogger, to let them know that their review was based on a misunderstanding of the DYK rules. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:40, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I had used raw size expansion (3,233 bytes -> 7,570 bytes) instead of prose size (323 chars -> 200 chars). New enough, but hooks and sources need work... -Bogger (talk) 06:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that Edward Hopper sold some beachfront property to a New York art gallery? Sources: "When he wrote to his dealer about the picture, an austere view out the door of his Truro studio...directly on the water of the bay, he noted only: 'I have finished a canvas am [sic] hoping to get another before we leave here'." Levin, Gail (1998). Hopper's Places (2nd ed). University of California Press. pp. XI. ISBN9780520216761. OCLC1228847942. "[Art collector Stephen Carlton Clark] bought Rooms by the Sea...and kept it for the remainder of his life. Hopper's wife, Jo, in the notebook she used to record her husband's sales, noted next to Clark's name in the entry for this picture, 'snapped up at once before shown publicly'." [...] "Purchased by SCC from Rehn Gallery, New York". Vincent, Gilbert T.; Sarah Lees (2006). "A Life with Art: Stephen Carlton Clark as Collector and Philanthropist". The Clark Brothers Collect: Impressionist and Early Modern Paintings. Sterling and Francine Clark Art Institute. pp. 186, 332. ISBN0300116195. OCLC1110377214
Comments: Hopper had an exclusive arrangement with Rehn Gallery in New York for 43 years. See Edward Hopper: Paintings & Ledger Book Drawings (2012) for additional supporting info, particularly pp. 23, 25, and especially 114, where Hopper's wife confirms they received the check for the painting from Rehn on April 7, 1952.
Created by Viriditas (talk) and Tryptofish (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.
I started to review this, but then I got to copyediting so I'm ineligible to review. It grieves me to say that I could not find material for an even remotely off-color ALT. EEng02:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. However, I don't think this hook works for two reasons. One, the fun of this hook is backwards. The punchline of this hook is when you get to the article and realize it is about a painting and not actual beachfront property. That's witty, but the wit isn't in what one sees on the main page. On its face, the buying of property along a beach isn't interesting, and I don't think the hook will draw in many readers so that they get the wit of the hook which requires actually going to the page. Two, the hook is factually inaccurate. Even if a painting depicts beachside property, the purchaser of a painting knows they aren't buying land, they are buying a painting. I get the humor/wit behind the hook, and if this were an April Fools hook proposal it would be appropriate. In short: we need a new hook that is hooky at first glance and verifiable.4meter4 (talk) 22:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: "The light in many of Hopper’s paintings appears overdetermined, as much psychological as natural. In “Rooms by the Sea” (1951), one of his strangest paintings, it is especially urgent and borderline surrealistic." Johnson, Ken (January 3, 2013). "Artworks That Shine in New York Museums". The New York Times.
... that after having a career as an opera singer and Broadway musical star, Winfield Blake(pictured) became a comedian in vaudeville as one half of the comic duo Blake and Amber?
Source: *For one example of work as a leading opera singer with Pyke Opera Company in 1894: "Amusements". Sacramento Record Union. August 22, 1894. p. 4.
For move into vaudeville and founding of Blake and Amber in 1902 and their work in vaudeville over the next decade: "Winfield Blake Actor, Is Dead". Oakland Tribune. April 13, 1932.
Article was newly created in draft space and moved to main space within the timeframe required. It's very long and has citations throughout. Nothing appears non-neutral to me. The hook fact is interesting enough. No close paraphrasing concerns are identified by the tool, although it's only letting me check the links on the page as we've used Google search too many times today? QPQ is provided. I think the image can be added as it's old enough that it's public domain. I'd add an infobox to the article, but that's not necessary. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that Giorgina Reid patented a technique for holding up banks? Source: Goldstein, Marilyn (October 10, 1984). "She Holds the Patent on Tenacity". Newsday. p. 19. (Available via newspapers.com with TWL)
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: None required.
Overall: Draft published the day of nomination, length is good, material is neutral, the hook is interesting, and no QPQ is required 🙂 For the citing of the hook and some of the citing of the article, I have to AGF because I cannot read Portuguese, but the article does not appear to read in a plagiarized manner. Before passing this DYK, there's just a few places in the article which need a citation which I've marked with a 'citation needed' tag, but otherwise, the page looks really good and was an interesting read. Cheers! Johnson524 21:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC) Johnson52421:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article newly promoted to GA. Length is well over the minimum. Sourcing is reliable and consistent through the article. No concerns about CV, POV, or other policy issues. Hook is interesting - how often does a country singer buy a TV station? Reference checks out. QPQ complete. Ready to roll. ♠PMC♠ (talk)11:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: A well-written and well-sourced article. It is new and long enough, and Earwig shows that it is copyvio-free. I think the original hook is interesting enough, and the sources provided for the hooks check out (although for the ALT2 hook, both The Guardian and Billboard sources used the word "dream" instead of "nightmare", it might be better to change the word choice back to "dream" in accordance with the sources). Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 12:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC) —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul)12:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Looks good! New article (moved from userspace), long enough, well-sourced, QPQ is done. Small note on the hook: should be "real-life" instead of "real life". hinnk (talk) 22:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2: ... that the Vodou priestessCécile Fatiman was credited with instilling Haitian Revolutionaries with a "superhuman courage"? Source: Kingsbury, Kate; Chesnut, R. Andrew (2019). "In Her Own Image: Slave Women and the Re-imagining of the Polish Black Madonna as Ezili Dantò, the Fierce Female Lwa of Haitian Vodou". International Journal of Latin American Religions. 3: 214–215. doi:10.1007/s41603-019-00071-5.
Interesting GA biography, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Of the hooks, I prefer ALT1, by far. "Possessed" is too ambiguous a word, and that spirit not known (at least to me). I like the description of the ceremony better than labelling her as priestess (ALT2), and ALT3 says nothing more than the obvious: that we didn't know her ;) - In the article, I'd say something about the lead image, such as "depiction". Seems to be someone's dream of her ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source: From September 1856 through May 1857, while serving at Fort Pierre, he met and, by Sioux tribal custom, married a young French-Yankton girl of the Yankton Sioux tribe. (Deloria - page 44)
ALT1: ... that U.S. Army Colonel Alfred Sully(pictured) ordered the severed heads of the native Americans responsible for killing one of his officers placed on stakes? Source: In response to the killing of his topographical engineer, Captain John Feilner, on June 28, 1864, Sully ordered the severed heads of the native Americans responsible placed on stakes overlooking the Missouri River as a warning. (Doane Robinson Collection and Schusky page 52)
Overall: Article looks mostly good; however, the sentence From September 1856 through May 1857, while serving at Fort Pierre, he met and, by Sioux tribal custom, married a young French-Yankton girl of the Yankton Sioux tribe. needs to have a direct citation as its the DYK hook. Also, do you think you could provide for me a quote for what part of the book verifies it? (seems I've missed it) – a QPQ also needs to be done. When approved, my preference is for ALT0. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I added Deloria pp 29-30 for that line and it is also referenced in the descendant section with mention of his wife and daughter (ref to Deloria page 35)
Ref 2: “During the Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies, Pantouw was active in the Syukai Gi In organization in Makassar. Following the end of Japanese rule and the proclamation of Indonesian independence, the organization changed its name to Source of the People's Blood (Sumber Darah Rakyat, Sudara).”
Suggestion: “Pantouw later joined another organization in Makassar, Syukai Gi In, which later became Sudara (Sumburan Darah Rakyat, lit. "Source of the People's Blood") after the end of the Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies.”
Ref 3: “Together with Ratulangi, Najamuddin Daeng Malewa and other Republicans, he had been active in various organizations in Sulawesi such as Source of the People’s Blood (Sumber Darah Rakyat, Sudara) and the Party of Popular Sovereignty (Partai Kedaulatan Rakyat, pkr). But eventually he came to the conclusion that nothing could be achieved through such organizations. He therefore joined the NIT together with Malewa, cooperated with the Dutch, and became minister of information in the first cabinet of the NIT. His main concern was to tackle the many social problems confronting the Indonesian people due to the Japanese colonial rule and the Allied bombings. Pantouw was fully aware that the NIT was widely regarded as a Dutch puppet. But he was determined to turn it into a tool to push the Dutch into ending their colonialism. Pantouw argued that it was impossible for the Republic of Indonesia – which had no power, no army and no weapons in this part of Indonesia – to fight the Dutch effectively.
Article: “Pantouw, together with other nationalists including Sam Ratulangi and Nadjamuddin Daeng Malewa, were active in Sudara as well as the Party of Popular Sovereignty (Partai Kedaulatan Rakyat, PKR). However, he came to the conclusion that nothing could be achieved through such organizations. He, together with Malewa, therefore chose to cooperate with the Dutch. Both Pantouw and Malewa joined the first cabinet of the Dutch-backed State of East Indonesia (Negara Indonesia Timur, NIT). The latter became prime minister, while the former became minister of information. Pantouw's main concern was to tackle the many social problems confronting the Indonesian people. He was aware that the NIT was seen by many simply as a Dutch puppet state. But he was determined to turn the state into a tool to push the Dutch into ending colonialism. Pantouw argued that it was impossible for the newly proclaimed Republic of Indonesia — which had no power, no army, and no weapons in this part of the country — to fight the Dutch effectively, thus joining the NIT was a necessary step given the political situation.”
Suggestion: “Despite being active in organizations like Sudara and the People's Sovereignty Party, he decided to collaborate with the Dutch government after realizing an inability to achieve much with the former, and he joined the first cabinet of the Dutch-backed State of East Indonesia (NIT) as minister of information, under the leadership of prime minister Nadjamuddin Daeng Malewa, also a fellow nationalist. Despite being aware of the NIT’s reputation as a puppet state, he was determined to not only address Indonesian people's social concerns, but also to pressure the Dutch into decolonization, arguing that "it was impossible for the newly proclaimed Republic of Indonesia — which had no power, no army, and no weapons in this part of the country — to fight the Dutch effectively".”
More suggestions: Remove “As a member of Jong Minahasa“ as redundant and replace with “and”, and replace “participated” with “stood” or “ran”.
Interesting: - Clarify that the SEI is a Dutch puppet state, without which this hook wouldn’t be interesting enough, and we got ourselves a deal.
QPQ: None required.
Overall: 2942 B and nom one day after creation. Ref 2 has “/wiki/” in the URL, but it’s more of a technical aspect since the Encyclopedia of Indonesian History has an editorial staff. Fix the issues and you’re good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine01:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Change "during the Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies. The organization changed its name" to -> "before it changed its name"; redundant since the next sentence is already clear he remained in Sudara around the time he collaborated with a post-war puppet regime; also this helps fix a close-paraphrasing issue, and it helps if you look at WP:POSA.
Change "was the best way" to "was essential"; the former implies there were other options even though the source doesn't make such seem as obvious as the latter.
Fix the "210–1" to "211–2"; I checked the source and I assume it's probably a mistake, just like "re-establish" (a minor grammar issue I fixed myself).
... that the small fish species Poecilia vandepolli existed, then it did not, and now it does again?
Source: "Poecilia vandepolli Van Lidth de Jeude, 1887 is re-examined and resurrected from synonymy as the Antillian representative of P. sphenops Valenciennes, 1846." [20]
ALT1: ... that the small fish species Poecilia vandepolli was resurrected in 1992? Source: "Poecilia vandepolli Van Lidth de Jeude, 1887 is re-examined and resurrected from synonymy as the Antillian representative of P. sphenops Valenciennes, 1846." [21]
ALT2: ... that Vandepoll's molly solves food shortage problems by eating its own offspring? Source: "In a confined area, only lack of food seems to keep down the population at a certain density. The offspring will for the greater part either starve to death or be consumed by the cannibalistic adults, the latter phenomenon being more important than the former as we know from looking at the stomach contents." [22]
Overall: Interesting hook and the article is properly cited and constructed. QPQ not needed. I made a couple of edits to the article, but they are very minor. Richard Nevell (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that Rika Nakagawa(pictured) won a national debate competition as an active tarento? Source: [23], [24] (the whole preview part; source is paywalled, but the available preview should confirm the fact); various sources in the article also allude to her entertainment career when bringing up the debate competition.
ALT1: ... that while active as a talent and model, Rika Nakagawa(pictured) won a national debate competition? Source: Same as above
ALT2: ... that while active as a talent and model, Rika Nakagawa(pictured) won a national debate competition for high school students? Source: Same as above
Comment: The actual hook wording can be worked out with the reviewer. As it's rare for me to have an image hook (since the subjects I work with rarely if ever have free images available), using the image would be appreciated, but it's okay if it runs without.
Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.
... that Episode 7921 of Neighbours features Australia's first televised same-sex wedding since the country voted in favour of legalising same-sex marriage?
Overall: Unfortunately, I doubt this will be ready for mainspace on September 3. Nominations for a specific date should be made at least a week before, September 3 is in just 5 days. Cambalachero (talk) 19:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Nom on creation day and at 4120 B, and, except one issue above, page looks good. AGF ref 8. @Sammi Brie: fix the above issue and you're good to go. There's info I found in the sources like his UWO professor job, MOS:FIRSTBIO prefers both lifespan dates being in the lede, and the "Clark Kent of The National" quote should have a MOS:ELLIPSIS between of and The, but consider these optional. ミラP@Miraclepine15:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall great article, ALT2 is my favorite hook, then ALT1, ALT0, ALT3, ALT4. All check out regarding sourcing and are . The image doesn't really work at the low resolution IMO, I think one of the aviary shots would be better. Some assorted comments since I read the whole article, but are minor and don't block the DYK approval:
The Animals section starts with "The zoo is home to as many as 112 species as of 2013" (and in the infobox); is there really no updated figure 10 years later?
"The administration of mayor Ed Koch and the New York Zoological Society signed a fifty-year agreement" - did the administration really sign the agreement and not the mayor himself? The NYT source says the mayor signed it.
Many animals are not wikilinked on first reference in the Description section, but later are during the Animals section - was there a reason for that?
Thanks for the review. I added some links and changed the text about the agreement to reflect the source. The logo is outdated, so I removed it. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a more recent figure for the number of species (at least, not one that mentions a date). Epicgenius (talk) 14:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article was 5x expanded on August 30, so is new enough. At over 2000 characters, it is long enough. The article is properly referenced with in-line citations. The hook is interesting, short enough, and cited in-line. No copyvio issues noted with Earwig's. The QPQ has been done. Looks good to go! SilverserenC23:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article is new enough at time of nomination, long enough, and the QPQ has been completed. The hook is sourced and included in the article. I've spot checked some articles, and it passes Earwig with flying colours. I think ALT0 is the best and most interesting here; ALT1 and ALT2 could be combined for an ALT3: ... that Spotify lost $34.1 million as a result of discontinuing the Car Thing just five months after its full commercial launch? , but the first's still better. With my rambling over, I'm pleased to approve the article. Frzzl talk; contribs 14:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Nice article, I found the fact it was a restaurant to be quite interesting/unique, heritage buildings often get rebuilt but a rotunda serving as a restaurant paints quite an interesting thought in my mind. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment: I'm aware that blogs are not usually usable sources, but this one is the official blog of a scientific institution so I think it should be OK. Di (they-them) (talk) 03:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article looks good and Earwig's is clear. Reviewing ALT0, the hook is interesting and is sourced well. The article cites Guinness World Records which circumvents any concern about the blog source in my opinion so it looks good. ―Panamitsu(talk)08:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Alt 1. Nice article, I knew little about these space pioneers before your page. To suggest a correction in the blurb, an uppercase 'Earth', thanks, but the main point of them returning to Earth with a parachute (have to make clear in was only by parachute and not in a space capsule if that is the case). The first two-time traveler to space, very good addition to Wikipedia. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT2: ... that the Trade Fair Palace had to be rebuilt after experiencing a fire that lasted for six days? Source: "Trade Fair Palace". ngprague.cz. National Gallery Prague. Retrieved 2024-08-31.
Reviewed:
Created by CitrusHemlock (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
Other problems: - I find ALT0 to be interesting, but I'm not sure on the rest. For ALT1, the reader would have to look up what the Slav Epic is, and for ALT2, this doesn't seem really unusual (either it was rebuilt or it was not).
... that British conscientious objector Henry Firth died in 1918 while being held at a work camp in Dartmoor?
Source: "There was only one other death, during the time of the COs at Dartmoor Work Centre, which was completely unrelated to the flu epidemic. This was the death of Henry Firth, which led to the strike in February 1918 when the COs refused to work so that they could accompany his coffin to the station." from: Barker, Pip (30 June 2021). Princetown and the Conscientious Objectors of WW1. Austin Macauley Publishers. pp. 33–34. ISBN978-1-3984-1981-0.
ALT1: ... that in 1918 conscientious objectors held at a work camp in Dartmoor, England, went on strike so they could accompany the coffin of Henry Firth to the railway station? Source: "There was only one other death, during the time of the COs at Dartmoor Work Centre, which was completely unrelated to the flu epidemic. This was the death of Henry Firth, which led to the strike in February 1918 when the COs refused to work so that they could accompany his coffin to the station." from: Barker, Pip (30 June 2021). Princetown and the Conscientious Objectors of WW1. Austin Macauley Publishers. pp. 33–34. ISBN978-1-3984-1981-0.
Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and plagiarism free (there's one long quote that Earwig picked up & I altered 'contingent' to 'group'). Hooks are both cited, personally I think ALT1 is more interesting, but I leave the choice to the promoter. QPQ is done. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Article length is fine, article is recently created, Earwig shows no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, article appears to be reliably sourced. I think I prefer the shorter hook (might suggest an ALT for the second one) Have suggested a revised hook. Paul W (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Article is new, length and citing are good, copyvio is not positive for plagiarism, and most importantly I really like the hook 🙂 Cheers! Johnson52402:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that activist Joan McIntyre left Friends of the Earth to start her own organization focused on stopping the whaling activities of Japan and Russia?
Regarding the hook, "Joan And The Whales" says, "She had been special projects coordinator of Friends of the Earth ...". I will take this as verifying that she left Friends of the Earth to start her own organization.
I checked the Wikipedia article and could not find where it says "left Friends of the Earth to start her own organization". Would you add this to the Wikipedia article or quote the text where it says this in case I missed it? Thank you, Cunard (talk) 09:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that according to tradition, Saint Ludger healed the Frisian bard Bernlef of his blindness (pictured) and taught him to play the Psalms on his harp? Source: Moll, p. 180 (in Dutch)
ALT3: ... that when he was lying on his deathbed, the Frisian bard Bernlef(pictured) comforted his wife by saying he prayed that they would not be separated long and she died just fifteen days later? Source: Moll, p. 180 (in Dutch)
ALT4: ... that according to one account, the blind Frisian bard Bernlef(pictured) was healed after he doubted Saint Ludger, saying: "If your God is so powerful, show me a sign"? Source: Ludger and Bernlef (in Dutch)
ALT5: ... that the Frisian bard Bernlef(pictured) had eighteen children, only two of whom survived, but both were confirmed by a saint? Source: Moll, p. 180 (in Dutch)
Interesting biography about a subject about whom little is known, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF. Of the hooks, I like ALT1, because it relates to the image. The image caption can then be shortened, and pictured might come after blindness, because the whole scene is pictured. The image is licensed and illustrates the scene well, but is not ideal in that small size. - I am not sure about Psalms vs. psalms, because afaik it's Psalm 84 when a particular one is meant but otherwise it seems a general term like hymns. This goes also for the article. The sentence with "some debate" has to many some for my taste. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for the quick review and kind words. I agree that if the image is used, ALT1 makes the most sense; I've changed the caption to simply the English translation of the painting's title and moved "(pictured)" in the hook. I think "Psalm" should be capitalized because it was my understanding that he played the Psalms on the harp, not just Christian hymns, because that was sort of a bardic/skálic tradition to tell stories that way, but it's possible I'm misinterpreting. Sentence with "some" has been fixed; thanks for pointing it out. ThaesOfereode (talk) 16:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: I prefer ALT1; not sure the first hook is interesting enough. Important question - I'm not sure if the expansion of the radio station article suffices, as it appears to incorporate through merger what was in another article. A second set of eyes on that issue, or explanation by the nom, would be helpful. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:587E:4EDE:255:173E (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I can't ping. There is a merger, but neither page had substantial material. WCCN (AM) had 245 characters. WCCN-FM had 515 characters. 245 + 515 = 760. The current page size is 4482 characters, where the combined 5x of both pages would be 3800. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
... that Wigwam(pictured) formed four days before their first concert?
Source: Y Selar, issue 54 (August 2018), page 11 - "Nathon ni ffurfio pedwar diwrnod cyn ein gig cyntaf achos odd angen band arall i chwara' set [...] yng Nghlwb Ifor Bach blwyddyn dwetha." ("We formed four days before our first gig because another band was needed to play a set [...] in Clwb Ifor Bach last year.")
ALT1: ... that Wigwam(pictured) only formed to play a single concert, but have been performing together for seven years? Source: Same source as ALT0 ("last year" in that context is 2017, so it's been seven years) + "Drymiwr Wigwam yn bencampwr dawnsio’r byd" - "I ddechrau, jyst i wneud one-off gig oedd o. [...] Gwnaethon ni benderfynu cario ymlaen, dal ati gydag ymarfer, wedyn gwnaethon ni ddechrau ysgrifennu cerddoriaeth efo’n gilydd. Erbyn hyn, rydym wedi rhyddhau albwm a phedair sengl." ("At the start, it was just to do a one-off gig. [...] We decided to carry on, kept practicing, then we started writing music together. By now, we've released an album and four singles.")
The article was long enough and new enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing, and the article is properly sourced. I am assuming good faith for the sources as they are in Welsh, although for DYK purposes the provided translations above should be fine. A QPQ has been done. I'm approving only the original hook as it's shorter, snappier, and probably more intriguing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for the review! But I'm not sure why you've specifically approved only one hook when there's nothing actually wrong with the other one - surely it's up to the prep builders to choose which hook is more interesting. (I say this because I think ALT1 is a little more interesting personally, and is in a pretty common hook style.) Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
While I thought ALT1 was also a surprising and interesting hook, I thought the fact about them being formed four days before the gig, as opposed to simply being intended to be a one-time thing, was more unusual and eye-catching. In addition, it's also a shorter hook and arguably punchier. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Overall, this is a really good DYK! I personally like ALT0, as it gives a bit more info on who it passed to become #1. Earwig showed only a ~4% copyvio likeliness, which falls far into the "okay" category. The article is also new enough (I noticed that you moved the article into mainspace on September 3, so you're fine there) and long enough. :) Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 22:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
References
^Hall, Charlie (31 August 2024). "Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere TTRPG becomes most-funded Kickstarter game ever". Polygon. Retrieved 4 September 2024. Author Brandon Sanderson, creator of The Stormlight Archive and Mistborn series, has shattered the record for crowdfunded tabletop games on Kickstarter. In partnership with developer Brotherwise Games, Sanderson's Cosmere RPG campaign raised a total of $14,558,854 on Thursday from a total of 52,658 backers, representing an average pledge of $276.48 from each participant. The campaign is still accepting late pledges, and currently sits at more than $14.7 million earned. The haul catapults the Cosmere campaign past the previous most-funded board game, Frosthaven, the sequel to Gloomhaven published by Cephalofair Games.
... that much to his dismay, Andrea Navagero(pictured) was named the Venetian ambassador to France in 1529?
Source: di Robilant, Andrea (18 June 2024). This Earthly Globe: A Venetian Geographer and the Quest to Map the World. Alfred A. Knopf. ISBN 9780307597076.
ALT1: ... that Andrea Navagero(pictured) cared for his gardens in Murano and Selve more than "anything else in this world"? Source: [30] page 846
Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced (FYI there are two harv errors, Ref 7 and 19 respectively), neutral, copyvio-free, and presentable. Hook is cited to a reliable source and is interesting. I'd go with Alt0. Images are properly licensed. QPQ done. Great job! Vacant0(talk • contribs)11:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Overall: Overall, I think this is pretty good! Although I feel like the hook could be a teensy bit more interesting, I'll let that pass because it is still something that sounds cool. The source is a-okay (and mentions it, the most important part), as well as date of the GA promotion and length of the article itself. No image, so no issues there, sources in the article itself are good, neutrality checks off, and while Earwig did find a ~27% copyvio likeliness, that's still pretty low. QPQ is done, so everything checks off! (Good luck on that Francis Bacon source!) Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 18:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply