User talk:RHaworth/2019 Nov 23

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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Speedy deletion of Deleyaman

Dear Roger, I would like to kindly request the undeletion of this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deleyaman page that has been deleted because of not meeting WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. But I deeply believe that the page and the content meets the Wikipedian criteria proposed to notable artists or bands. This article has been deleted 5 years ago when it was not meeting the abovementioned criteria. However, I have edited and rewritten the article a few months ago by strictly following the requested policies. The reason that it has been placed for speedy deletion just because it has been deleted once 5 years ago, I think, without looking into the new content, that seems to me unreasonable. Hoping for your sincere considering. HovhannesKarapetyan (talk) 06:10, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

• You could try again via AfC. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

My infobox on my info page

Hi, seems because of an error on my part, I had changed the user tag of my wikipedia user page to a general page. being a newcomer to wikipedia, I didn't know that it had been accidentally done. Could I get to retrieve my data from the page? Thanking you, Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 13:51, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

• Restored and then edited. Objections to your state of the page: too much like an article; contained a lot of personal data that you might not wish to publish in such a publick place as Wikipedia and said nothing about what you do here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Salt request

Can you please creation protect Amin Aminem and block the user? The user has twice now Hijacked other pages and moved them into its place with the intention of trying to avoid scrutiny. Looking through their edits, they seem to be only nonsense edits intended to get edit count up, almost certainly a pure paid editing/promotional COI account. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)}_{(click me!)} 23:21, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

D.S.

Hi, please send me the deleted content from Diamond Standard, I may try to clean it up as more references are established. Thank you Nixie9✉ 15:52, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

• Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Christian Science

Hi, re: this edit and similar, the image hasn't been deleted. Are you confusing it with something else? SarahSV ^(talk) 18:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

• Why stop at just that Christian Science article? What about this edit and this one? And in fact those three were just part of these 26 edits done by Twinkle in my name. I was doing these 5 harmless deletions and failed to untick a box saying "remove instances". Now all fixed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:14, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the explanation and for fixing everything. SarahSV ^(talk) 22:11, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Why the unnecessary hatred?

Dear Mr.Haworth Why the unnecessary hatred? I have explained the whole of Wikipedia by now that as a rookie, I had unintentionally changed my User page to a common article page. Hope you understand at least this much. Next, Being my only second edit (other than my page) wasn't it a bit too childish and immature of you to bully a teenager on Wikipedia knowing that he is learning about Wikipedia and that those two edits were his only ones? And then reading your edit description, I only hoped that it was a farce, where you pointed out that my modest (by several degrees) Info box was supposedly FAKE? I mean I respect the fact that you are a ruthless destroyer of vandalism and nonsensical articles on Wikipedia, but I still cannot digest why you would be so immature ( at your age and level that is, looking at your photos) that even a personal infobox on a personal user page should be mal treated and vandalised by you? I would hereby, ernestly, even though you do not deserve it, request you to repost all my previous info of my infobox WITHOUT VANDALISING IT! If not, which I hope is unlikely, DELETE my account, thereby admitting the fact that you are nothing but an aggressor, with zero self respect. Be seeing you, Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

• Instead of waffling, learn how to use an edit history. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:14, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

RHaworth, This is infantile and childish, and to tell you the truth, I've got no time to squander on your baseless suppositions. I know how to use the edit history to recover my Infobox. I also know how to vandalise your user page, but guess what? I am not as immature as you to do so. I even have the sense of self respect to not bow down to your level and mentality to recover and paste my infobox, even though it was you who vandalised it and mocked me later on ( Congratulations!!) Just to reinforce my argument - see this.

Here is my proof. And this is your way of pissing off a person you don't know- I am Riddhidev Biswas. I live in Rouen. So far on Wikipedia I have taken an incredible number of edits just to add HDIs to two articles.

In my opinion, the last time I taunted someone like this was when I was in 10th grade... This is the last time I'm going to respond to anything you type henceforth... Put back my previous info, or delete my account, thereby... you know the rest, don't you? — Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 17:03, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

• What is preventing you editing User:Riddhidev BISWAS? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

RHaworth, my conscience, Dear Mr. Haworth, and also my healthy narcissistic ego... By logic of damage, you were the one who vandalised it.. so it should be YOU who makes it alright... not me... You had the right to delete the content which was not adhereing to protocol. I apologised, quite humbly too, might I add, for my mistake and then after you put my infobox back, you deleted it and replaced it with an unpleasant user page description which immediately made me dislike you, which I really didn't want to happen... So, my offer still stands... add it or kick me out.. I would do the latter quite pleasantly as that would mean you really like making petty issues akin to molehills into that of huge mountain ranges... Do what you see fit. Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 21:59, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Put your narcissistic ego to one side. This is a simple editorial discussion. You created a user page. I did not like it so I created an alternative version. I did not expect you to like it but I hoped it would give you some clues to what sort of thing I was looking for. So over to you: see if you can create a page that we both agree on. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Mr.RHaworth I considered what you said and wrote an alternate user intro. What do you think? — Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 14:12, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• The new version is acceptable. But please drop this idea of hatred. We do not hate you personally and as to your other submissions, "unsuitable for Wikipedia" is all that we say. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm confused...

Why exactly did you WP:ECP Amin Aminem under the rationale "has been used for spam"? I see 4 total edits on that page (including yours). None are spam that I can see. Likewise, no other forms of protection have been attempted. This is in direct opposition to WP:ECP: "Extended confirmed protection should not be used as a preemptive measure against disruption that has not yet occurred..." I'm not seeing what you're seeing. — Buffs (talk) 23:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

• OK, you cannot see the text of the stuff that has been deleted. But at least, if you bothered to look, you would have seen #Salt request above, made at a time before the redirect was created. And this report should give you an idea of what has been happening. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:14, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

"if you had bothered to look" Dude, I had exactly zero idea where to look. You don't need to be so condescending. You were vague. A simple explanation would have been sufficient. Buffs (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

• Buffs, you need to learn all the useful tools available: at the top of each article's edit history is a link "view logs for this page", on the left there are "what links here" and "related changes links". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Nothing in the visible history of this page mentions anything about "spam". And I see nothing other logs that fits the criteria of "spam", IMHO. Instead of taking feedback as a personal affront warranting a strong hostile/defensive response, perhaps you could be a little more civil, assume I mean well, and take it as a chance to explain things better in the future. Buffs (talk) 17:20, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

• Buffs, I claim that, in my boorish way, I am trying to improve your Wikipedia experience. "Nothing in Special:WhatLinksHere"! For goodness sake - surely a link to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amin Aminem is a clear indication. Did you follow that link? And surely the log report is a clear indication that protection might be a good idea. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

None of those links mention spam. And, yes, we'll agree on "boorish" as an apt description. Buffs (talk) 17:24, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• (talk page watcher)@RHaworth: Is there any reason for the redirect at Amin Aminem to exist? There seems no mention of this name in the target article Drishyam. I'd have taken it to WP:RfD but as you've protected it I thought I'd ask here. — PamD 13:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

This is perplexing. Why reprotect creation of the article? It was already in place; you just repeated it? Buffs (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• Buffs, no: the protection I applied at 2019 Nov 04 16:41:07 was edit protection. This cancelled the previous create protection. If create protection had been in force on Nov 08, an attempt to re-apply it would have received a null response. But can I take it that you now accept that protection of this title is valid?

PamD, I agree: the redirect should not exist. Amin added his name with this edit but it was soon removed. In any case a redirect from an actor's name to one of their appearances is rarely justifiable.

Out of interest, I checked what IMDb has about the guy - self-writtten, listing six movies and in every case he is listed in "rest of cast", ie. not credited. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:34, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy of Draft:SP Chauhan

Dear RHaworth, I request you kindly for the undeletion of this Wikipedia: Articles for deletion/Draft: SP Chauhan page that has been deleted because of not meeting (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion). But I deeply believe that the page was not created for promotion, It was created for social awareness. This article has been deleted on the 4 November 2019 As it was not meeting the abovementioned criteria. I have read carefully what went wrong on the page so if you can undelete the page I will definitely make you believe that the article was not for any kind of promotion or advertising. Hoping for your sincere considering, Mukularora04 (talk) 05:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

• I think GPL93 saw those horrible mal-formed links and thought "this is someone who just wants to promote a person - they cannot be bothered to learn any Wikipedia standards". Restored. Whip it into shape. GPL93, please allow it to be reviewed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:14, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

@Mukularora04: that and the fact that the Draft was, and still is, chock full of WP:PEACOCK phrases (ex: "SP Chauhan, who is now one of the most famous personalities of Haryana"). All Wikipedia articles must adhere to a neutral point of view, and the draft currently does not. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Arthur McGill (surgeon)

Hi...In error, I created a duplicate Arthur McGill (surgeon) of Arthur Fergusson McGill. Are you able to remove this. They are both the same. Sorry and thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:19, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you RHaworth..I think I need to slow down. I am really sorry to have had to bother you. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:25, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

• It is nice to keep in touch but remember that you could have got rid of the page by slapping {{db-author}} at the top. Also this is a useful edit that you could have done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

I didn't know that first point...but should have thought of the second. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:19, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Restoration of Grace Ihejiamaizu Draft

Hi RHaworth, Please check my conversation with Athaenera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Athaenara#Grace_Ihejiamaizu Another experienced reviewer approved this draft and changed the terms (funny enough I did think that the terms used where kinda self promoting -- the history of the page can still be seen), but I think she may have been a bit biased because she was a fellow woman since everyone else thinks that the page is self-promoting. I always open another page side by side when writing articles so as to be neutral as possible when writing. And I'm keen on getting this right. — Opatachibueze (talk) 08:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

• If you are keen on getting things right, then learn to always provide wikilinks, eg.: User talk:Athaenara#Grace Ihejiamaizu and Grace Ihejiamaizu or, even better, Grace Ihejiamaizu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Grace Ihejiamaizu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Copy of Deleted Draft:GraphBLAS Page

Hello RHaworth, My colleagues and I were working together to create the Draft:GraphBLAS page, which you recently deleted. Could we please have a copy of the page prior to deletion? Additionally, if you could provide any more feedback than G11, we would greatly appreciate it. We really think that GraphBLAS qualifies for inclusion in Wikipedia, but we certainly don't want the article to sound like an advertisement. Thank you in advance for your help! — ScottKolo (talk) 16:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello RHaworth,

I'd like to add to ScottKolo's question about Draft:GraphBLAS with some information, the GraphBLAS API is not a commercial product, it is an API specification in the same vein as Basic Linear Algebra Subprograms. While I wrote the page, my only affiliation with it is that I wrote an open-source Python wrapper around the API which I have disclosed correctly. The page that was deleted contained only a description of the purpose of the API and the key linear algebraic mechanism that it uses. No commercial products were mentioned and all outgoing links are to open source implementations and tools and research papers related to the API. I agree the wording of the page could be more encyclopedic but prompt deletion seems a bit harsh given that the spirit of the page does not seem violate G11.

Thanks for any light you can shed on the matter, several of us community volunteers are ready to rewrite the page however we need to, but we are a bit puzzled exactly what was wrong with it, and since it was tagged and deleted in only a few hours time we have had no opportunity to understand why or even archive a copy of it for our own review. — Pelletier.michel (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

• It may seem simplistick but when I see <h1> headings in an article, I automatickally assume "spammer who has no interest in learning wiki standards". You compare your product with BLAS but made no attempt to show that it is equally notable. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! We'll take more time to make sure it's both up to wiki standards and demonstrates notability. ScottKolo (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Harris hawks

Restoration of deleted page Harris hawks optimization or send me the source WIKI code or text of page. Hi, with best regards I am the developer of the algorithm and related webpage, please restore, I will rewrite the last part, which used "rapid" word, the rest of the page was about equations and algorithm. If there is no way, please send me the code of pages (with a lots of equations) or text of the page. — Aliasghar68 (talk) 21:38, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

• Always log in before editing. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

White Palace (Dhamdacha)

I saw that you dealt with a recent article creation by a different person. User:Whitepalacegujrat <-> White Palace Dhamdachha. Can I leave it with you? — billinghurst sDrewth 09:17, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• Always provide a link when you talk about any page. What action were you hoping I would take? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Wamp.NET and TinyRouter

Hi, You've deleted Wamp.NET and TinyRouter for apparent copyright issues but they are my sites? The only reason they have a wikipedia entry at all is because the category page they were on requires it. How can I get this restored please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbuchweitz (talk • contribs) 16:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• Preferably you will wait until someone who has no CoI thinks that your software is notable and writes about it here. If you insist on trying to spam us, at the bottom of wamp.net replace "all rights reserved" with a {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} tag. Similarly for Tiny Router. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:34, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Could I please ask that you restore the entries and remove any content that you feel is not suitable? Davidbuchweitz (talk) 17:59, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Do you really expect me to do your editing for you? Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:29, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Do you know that nearly all the sites listed on List of AMP packages and List of router and firewall distributions have "all rights reserved" on their website front page? I don't understand why you're telling me to change mine? You've removed a page that nobody else had a problem with for almost 3 years. Davidbuchweitz (talk) 18:53, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• As Frood has told you, if you wish to be idle and use the text from your websites, then they must have a Creative Commons licence. If completely different text is submitted here, preferably by someone with no CoI, then clearly you do not need to change your websites. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of User:Aryakin2006/sandbox

Why did you delete that page? G2 does not apply to sandboxes or userspace pages (this one was both!), and even disregarding that, I didn't see anything on it harmful enough to warrant speedy deletion. Geolodus (talk) 11:22, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Sorry, yes, G2 was inappropriate. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:34, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Nicolas Chaillan's page

Sir, Page: [[1]] Thank you for reviewing the Nicolas M. Chaillan's page. As requested, I have added several references, including SEVERAL large articles and even one where is he on the COVER of the magazine for both Business Chief and Giganit. Dozens of interviews are available in various videos are on YouTube as well. I simply picked a couple which should be more than enough but I can add more if needed. The cover FYI is here: https://issuu.com/businessreviewusa/docs/bc_usa_oct2019 — Again there are more references available but I believe this is plenty. — There are dozens more on Google but this is more than I have ever seen on Wikipedia. At this point, saying he isn't notable is insulting our military and the U.S Government. I'm hoping there is no bias here from foreigners against U.S government officials. Can you please let me know what else is needed? Again, a simple google of his name will bring dozens of results and articles. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanbernard2019 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

• I have not reviewed the page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Recover The Nut-Free Factory

Could you please recover The Nut-Free Factory? I need it for my business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobloxCount999 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

• Why do you bracket links with <nowiki></nowiki>? Please reply. "I need it for my business" - at least you are honest in your spamming. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your restaurant is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Module:Multicol

Hello! You has been deleted this module. As I reported to User:Pppery, it is required for another modules and finally templates ({{BrewerColors}} and {{ChartColors}}). I already reported Pppery that Multicol was pending improvements and that it will be needed and used by another new module, in construction Column diagram. I know that in Pppery made an unnecessary modification in a derived modules for to avoid this module, but his version had an error in the presentation of more than one column of its items. Multicol that is not only necessary for other modules, it's waste time to make several versions of the derived modules that use it according to the wikipedia language; when creating only one module, module that can be copied from the English Wikipedia or mediawiki to all other wikis (look at mw: Multilingual Templates and Modules). Do not you think that we all are wasting time with all this?. Thank you so much. -- Jmarchn (talk) 13:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Please stop trying to overturn the consensus established at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 October 27#Module:Multicol. If you believe that discussion was closed incorrectly, then the proper procedure is to post on the closer's talk page and, if there comments are not satisfactory, post to Wikipedia:Deletion review, not to revert its implementation yourself. See WP:CLOSECHALLENGE. — * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

• I agree with * Pppery *. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Tyler Hall

Hey would you mind unprotecting Tyler Hall so I can create the article on the basketball player? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 16:29, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

• In I case like this I usually say "go via AfC". But the previous version of was about a songwriter, screenwriter, and musician and it was ten years ago. So I have simply unprotected. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	The world sleeps safely with you around Whispyhistory (talk) 21:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Thank you very much. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Myanmar Facebook Community

You may wish to revoke talk page access. -- Cahk (talk) 08:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Water polo

Please undelete Template:1952 Summer Olympics men's water polo game E1-1. Unless you're going to delete everything in Category:2016_Summer_Olympics_water_polo_game_reference_templates, Category:2012 Summer Olympics water polo game reference templates, and Category:2008 Summer Olympics water polo game reference templates as "not a template" too. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 02:17, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 09:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Congatec

Congatec was erroneously nominated and quickly deleted. Hello. This article was nominated for speedy deletion by mistake, because the company is significant. The article about Kontron exists and is not nominated for deletion, so please be consistent and either delete both or keep both. Besides, Congatec was deleted too fast, not even giving me (the author) the opportunity to extend it. Thank you in advance for restoring this article. -- Yuriz (talk) 09:46, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

• Other stuff exists is never an argument. But I have restored the article. Please populate the infobox asap. Please allow a regular draft reviewer to decide whether it is suitable for the English Wikipedia. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

User talk:User:73.213.196.34

Thanks for that deletion, totally my goof. I meant to link to the talk page for User:73.213.196.34. But, I goofed when I created an SPI and added the extra "User:" and it messed everything up. Never edit when you are tired. :) Anywho, I caught my mistake, but TROUT'ed myself. :D Thanks again ... Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:15 on November 15, 2019 (UTC)

Claim re RoofClaim.com

Hello, I am reaching out as I am curious as to why you nominated a draft for RoofClaim.com for speedy deletion that I created. I attempted to write back to you and I had no time to even respond -- the page was just deleted immediately. I was in the process of contesting its deletion. This page is not unambiguously promotional, because the page does not include commercial writing promoting the goods or services provided by the company. The page simply lists the story of the company and its notoriety in Orlando as it first gained local fame back in 2005 after Hurricane Ivan struck Central Florida. At this time, the company repaired damage caused from this hurricane and others, including hurricane Dennis and Katrina. All of which, brought attention to the company. The company became known for its work with storm elements, such as damage from hail, ice, rain, and wind.

Additionally, the company has gone on to be a prevalent and notable partner with other major businesses and organizations in Florida. These include the University of Central Florida, the Miami Dolphins, and the Ronald McDonald House. All of which, are well-known organizations in the Central Florida area as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean1sposato (talk • contribs) 14:30, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

• Be careful you do not reach out too far - you may fall over. If you really insist on spamming us, follow this advice. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:22, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Can you please send me the text from the draft so I can follow these steps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean1sposato (talk • contribs) 13:41, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

• Emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:38, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

why did you delete manavata

Manavata (Humanity) is a charitable organisation. Would you be able to let us know the reason to delete this page? You may visit www.manavata.org for more info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vundavilli (talk • contribs) 18:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:22, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Why did you delete Lanka Property Web

Hi RHaworth, A recent page that I created for Lanka Property Web was deleted by you. Lanka Property Web is a real estate company that operates online solely for advertising property only. Thus being a unique company and platform for real estate in Sri Lanka. I would like to know particular reasons as to why it was considered promotional and deleted. All claims made in the article were supported by websites and publishes made on reputed Sri Lankan newspaper sites. I also took special care in writing an unbiased description for the company. If you could highlight specific changes to be made on the article that was deleted I'd be able to rework on it and have it published again. Waiting for your quick response. Thank you. Shamlanlpw1 (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2019 (UTC) Minnath

• Wikipedia is not a trade directory. If you really insist on spamming us, follow this advice - category:real estate companies by country contains a wealth of examples. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:48, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth, So is there no way we can add a description of the company. Lanka Property Web is similar to Zillow. The only difference is that we operate completely online and are a platform for real estate advisers. In order to prove credibility, we want to create awareness on the existence of this recognized firm that has even been approved by Facebook. There is no intention of spamming or using Wikipedia as a trade directory but a genuine purpose of creating an identity for all those looking for information on the company. Please let me know how I can correct the previous description so that I can add a resourceful and unbiased content on Wikipedia. — Shamlanlpw1 (talk) 04:18, 19 November 2019 (UTC) Minnath

• "Approved by Facebook"! Is that supposed to be some sort of evidence of notability? What property company has ever been rejected by Facebook? My previous message contained a link: this advice. Have you followed that link and followed the advice at the target of that link? If not, why not? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:38, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Kotelawala

Speedy deletion of Computer Society of Kotelawala Defence University. Hi, because of an error on my part, I have missed including some information regarding my article on the society of my university. Can you please help me with retrieving data back and restoring the article back? And it would be better if you can tell me what type of more information needed to avoid in future deletions. Waiting for further action and instructions please. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimeshkasunekanayaka (talk • contribs) 16:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

• I see that some kind person has draftified your latest attempt. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:38, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Prasantt Ghosh

Hi Roger! Requesting to know what exactly was the promotional content for which the page Prasantt Ghosh was deleted. I had recently created a wikipedia page named Prasantt Ghosh. But I found out that you deleted the page due to some "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION". I'm new to wikipedia so please guide me exactly what went wrong and how can I retrieve the lost data to make the required changes. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepika Deori (talk • contribs) 13:28, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

• Most of the article. "Prasantt Ghosh has given a new aura to the traditional Assamese and northeast outfits with his creativity and authenticity" is a good example. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who has no CoI but does know encyclopedic style thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. If you want your text, read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Roger! Thank you for your reply. I tried my best to remove any "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION" for the page Prasantt Ghosh. Can you please e-mail me the copy of the deleted article so that I can make the necessary changes. I have updated my mail as you directed. — Deepika Deori

• Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Will make the necessary changes as required. Deepika Deori 11:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Deepika DeoriDeepika Deori 11:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Roger! The page has been deleted again because of any "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION". Can you please specify the mistakes? Were the citation links any promotional? Please specify. Thank you! Deepika Deori 06:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Grand Republic of Cycoldia

Hello, the page you deleted, Grand Republic of Cycoldia is not a hoax as you had said, and is in fact a micronation. I find the deletion to not be correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Real DarkLuke2005 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

As well you deleted my userpage, which only says a few short things about me, seriously, the only things I recently changed was putting my correct name on there. -- Real DarkLuke2005 (talk) 17:12, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

• I agree: Grand Republic of Cycoldia was not an hoax - I prefer to reserve that term for stuff which on a first reading seems credible. A better deletion reason would have been "just some Texan kid's fantasy" but that is not a recognised deletion criterion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Why would you consider 73-81 people as "some Texan kid"? Because as the page states there are 73 citizens from the last census, as well there are multiple people in the government. As well I would like to say that deleting my userpage was not an appropriate response either. -- Real DarkLuke2005 (talk) 17:15, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

• Nations, full size or micro need to be recognised by other nations. For example North Cyprus is only recognised by Turkey but that is enough to get it an article here. What other micronations have recognised yours? Provide reliable evidence from independent sources. Indeed has any independent, reliable source ever said anything about your state? As to your user page: "only things I recently changed was putting my correct name on there" - so you are called Feetus Deletus. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

So are you ignoring the rest of the change that is not an ambox? As well I can provide the list of micronations and the evidence of their recognition on https://micronations.wiki/wiki/Grand_Republic_of_Cycoldia because that is the MicroWiki page for it. If you wish you may also comb through each and every page under the recognition area. As well if you email me I can send you the proof of technical recognition by the United States Department of Education. You can also look at the official website for MicroCon, in which Cycoldia was in attendance. -- Real DarkLuke2005 (talk) 19:43, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

• Restored. If you want it to have even the faintest chance of survival, add some independent references PDQ. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:28, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Subpage for deleted page

Hi RHaworth, I noticed there was a subpage on one of the three templates you deleted from the closed TfD that didn't get deleted. Since the discussion closed as salt protect, I can't tag the subpage with criterion G8. Here's the log link. Cheers, -- Doug Mehus T·C 20:50, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

• So why should salting a title prevent you applying a speedy tag to a sub-page? Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia talk:User scripts/Guide now deleted - with apologies. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

  The problem isn't the salting (which you don't appear to have actually done), but the fact that all Template:Editnotices/xxx pages are template-protected by the blacklist. However, I don't see why Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia talk:User scripts/Guide needed to be deleted -- it was the editnotice for Wikipedia talk:User scripts/Guide, not a functional subpage of Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia talk:User scripts. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:20, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

  Pppery, My understanding, though, is all subpages should be deleted. As for the salting, I couldn't create a page, so what was preventing me from creating that page, the editnotice itself? Doug Mehus T·C 23:33, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

  Pppery and RHaworth, yeah, it seems to be a permission error related to an editnotice affecting that page, which has the same effect as salting except, some bots might be able to bypass editnotices, right, Pppery?

See screenshot:

screenshot of permission error at template:editnotices/page/wikipedia talk:user scripts

--Doug Mehus T·C 23:40, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Dmehus: The bot the salting is supposed to protect against has the template editor right, allowing it to create editnotices. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:48, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Pppery, Ah, that makes sense. I figured it was something like that. Doug Mehus T·C 00:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Bethel Assembly of God Church

Hi RHaworth. You recently deleted Bethel Assembly of God Church under WP:CSD#A7. I don't think that A7 applies. The article made the claim that Bethel is one of the largest churches in India, which I believe is a claim of notability - and is one of the few facts that was supported by a source. The article had previously been tagged as an A7, and I removed the tag. The article should not have be re-tagged under A7 ("If an editor other than the creator removes a speedy deletion tag in good faith, it should be taken as a sign that the deletion is not uncontroversial and another deletion process should be used."). I am not the creator of the article, and I mentioned in my edit summary that another process, preferably AfD, should be followed for this article. I am far from certain the article should stay, but I think it needs wider discussion before being deleted. Could you restore the article? I'd be happy to nominate it for AfD myself so that a full discussion can take place. Many thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 22:38, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring it. I've listed it for discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bethel Assembly of God Church. — The Mirror Cracked (talk) 23:00, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Recovery or Draft: Rabies Reader

Can you please recover the Draft:Rabies Reader page so I can save my work off of Wiki until the challenges are resolved. User:Ezbsg T 16:15, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Ezbsg, Have you tried the undeletion process in case RHaworth isn't online right now? Doug Mehus T·C 16:22, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Dmehus. I didn't know that feature was available. Ezbsg talk· 18:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Ezbsg, Yeah, it's worth a shot. If it gets turned down because of speedy deletion criteria, then you can always come back here and ask RHaworth or submit a deletion review using the original Draft:Rabies Reader and request it be restored as a subpage of your userspace. Such requests are commonly honoured, I think. Doug Mehus T·C 18:37, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

• Don't be so impatient. A glance at the edit history of this page will show you that I edit it roughly once a day. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft:Orthomol

I have created a draft about my company, properly disclosing my conflict of interest, and submitted it for independent community review. You speedy deleted it, and I am very sorry if I have done anything wrong. Can you please email me the source code or restore it to my user space so that I can try to improve the draft? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Manuela at Orthomol (talk) 08:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• Text emailed but you may have difficulty with a new version because, as explained here, Wikipedia is biased. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:Skyy Rider Institutions

You deleted Draft:Skyy Rider Institutions, under WP:CSD#A3 (no content). But a-series criteria do not apply to drafts, and I had moved this to draft space less than 1/2 hour previously precisely because the editor who created it needed time to add proper content. Please restore it. — DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 12:40, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• DES, you moved Skyy Rider Institutions to draft space. Twenty minutes later the author created a version at Skyy Rider Institution which at least was non-stubby. Someone applied a speedy tag to the latter. I agreed with the speedy tag and deleted it. I also deleted Draft:Skyy Rider Institutions on the grounds that it could now be considered a stale draft. But to keep you happy, I restored both states. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Gary Reamey question

Hello RHaworth, I was working to create the Draft:GaryReamey page, which you recently deleted. Could I please have a copy of the page prior to deletion? Additionally, if you could provide any more feedback than G11, I would greatly appreciate it. I really think that it qualifies for inclusion in Wikipedia, but I don't want the article to sound like an advertisement. Thank you for your help! Sierracrider (talk) 15:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• Text of draft:Gary Reamey (with a space) emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Pharmanutra

I saw you deleted Pharmanutra. Ok, being listed is not automatic notability but I read in that page Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports. Accordingly, article authors should make sure to seek out such coverage and add references to such articles to properly establish notability.. I included also indipendent articles and analyst reports and references by Reuters too. I believed it was leader just in Italy but now I just found an article by Il Sole 24 Ore (the most important italian financial newspaper) PharmaNutra is the leader in its market niche in Europe and absolute number one for market share in Spain, Arab Emirates, Iran, Romania and Austria. [2]. Please think about your decision.--Kaspo (talk) 18:21, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

For the record, I'd oppose this restoration. If it is restored I'd request it be required to go through AFC. Praxidicae (talk) 18:39, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• Feel free to raise the matter at DRV but do not be too hopeful because Wikipedia is biased. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Sins of empire

Hey. I just want to know more detail about why the wiki page was deleted. Thanks, Twenty Twenty one cries for help (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• What wiki page? Please specify. Your user page was deleted because it was patently not user page material. If it had been a draft page it would soon have got deleted because it was difficult to tell what it was about and it was devoid of any references which might have helped tell us. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Dragonboat Ronin/sandbox

Greetings Mr. Haworth, Recently a page in progress User:Dragonboat Ronin/sandbox was deleted with a caption from you saying "I am deafened by the shouting". If you are referring to the use of capital letters i apologize for any misunderstanding: this was only a template that i was working on formatting into something viable for Wikipedia and no "shouting" was intended. Among the many changes intended, i was hoping to find some way to change the upper-case without having to retype everything manually. This entire page was a very rough draft, not remotely near ready for submission to publication.

I had been under the impression my user sandbox was not a public domain and could be used to work on a potential submission until it is legitimately ready for Wikipedia submission. Is this not the case? If not and if i hope to submit a proper document, then do i need to compose it fully on my own editor first before making any submissions even into the user sandbox? Essentially i am hoping to publish a synopsis of the fastest dragon boat race times throughout respective historic major competitions in all major locations around the world. If this is not something suitable for Wikipedia please let me know. Regards, Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• "Public domain" is a technical term re copyright. Nothing on Wikipedia is public domain - all is covered by the Creative Commons licence. But your sandbox is fully visible to "the public". But that is not the issue. The question is: are you actually developing article material or using Wikipedia as a free host. In OpenOffice Writer: select text; click Format / Change case / required option. Similar in other text editors. Two states of your page sent. I advise you to keep it away from Wikipedia until it looks more like article material. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Greetings Mr. Haworth. First of all, great thanks for the respectful (and very helpful) reply; i was NOT under the impression that my sandbox was publicly viewable. Note: i may not be alone in this misconception; i seem to recall a statement when being welcomed to Wikipedia that said something to the order of writing in your sandbox if you do not want to affect main-space (i took this to mean my sandbox was a private zone to practice with the Wikipedia editor).

Regarding assistance: i am literally amazed that you took the personal time to help change the case for me in my text. My work-in-progress was actually a cut & paste of an email i wrote to various prominent people in the Dragonboat community in response to several records set in the World Championships last August; hence the overly personal tone. Several suggested i publish the results as currently no online articles cover this in as much depth. I wrote it in Notepad (a *very* rudimentary text editor that comes free on many older computers). I do not have advanced editing programs capable of 'case change'; my system is far outdated and living situation somewhat compromised. Final question before i try again: is there no format on Wikipedia where one can practice with the editor without the potential of being removed? Many thanks again for the help in light of my newbie-naivete.

Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 13:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Dragonboat_Ronin

Draft:Cosmoteer

I think you made a mistake deleting the Cosmoteer draft article. While I agree that the article wasn't ready for mainspace, read like an ad and was under referenced, I intended to improve it and fix those problems, that is what draft space is for isn't it?. That fact that I was intending to improve it should have been obvious from my message in the talk page and the fact I made the entire article in the past 2 days. So, can you please return the article to draft space. — FormularSumo (talk) 08:18, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

• Learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page. Draft:Cosmoteer restored. Bkissin, please allow it to be reviewed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

House of Representatives of Thailand

Hi. Could you please check draft:list of members of the House of Representatives of Thailand, 2007–2011, which you deleted, to see if there's any content worth salvaging (i.e. is there a list there at all)? Thanks. -- Paul_012 (talk) 11:43, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

• Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

request re deleted page

Hi.; I would like to retrieve the text of the deleted article History of the world (2008-present) so that I can save it for myself. could you please assist? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Fallen Journalists Memorial Foundation

Why was my draft deleted? The last editor said to remove peacock language so I did that by quoting material from the organization's website. I cited many news articles, as this organization has been covered many times over the last six months. That's how it came on my radar; and when I tried to find its Wikipedia page, it did not have one. I don't understand what I am supposed to do. The information I included in the draft is similar to that of other Wikipedia pages I have seen on similar subjects. Since this organization has been covered by many media outlets, since it is going to be responsible for a new monument in the United States capital, and since a lot of notable people are involved, it is curious why you have deleted the page. And I would like a copy of the text of the deleted draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediaexpert3 (talk • contribs)