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Guntmar Wolff deleted but still exists.

A couple of days ago you deleted upon my request the page about Guntmar Wolff. However this page still exists on wikipedia if you type in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guntmar_Wolff. Would it be possible for you delete that as well. Thank you! Motivationweb (talk) 20:54, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

LeadMaster Australia Pty. Ltd.

You have deleted our corporate page without discussing your concerns with us first. The page represented significant effort on our behalf and we tried hard to abide by the rules surrounding self promotion.

Perhaps you would like to consider pages such as Salesforce.com, Microsoft, Microsoft Dynamics, Netsuite, Oracle Corporation, SugarCRM, Zoho Office Suite or any other of the numerous corporate pages and then contact us and provide the courtesy of explaining your concerns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom.e.mackey (talk • contribs) 06:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

What a strange idea that we should contact the subject of an article before deleting it! This is an encyclopedia not a business directory.

Your use above of ugly naked URLs [now corrected] instead of wikilinks confirms to me that your sole interest is to promote your company. Please leave it to people who are interested in building an encyclopedia. When your company becomes notable someone with no COI will write about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:15, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

W.C. Hewitt

Don't know if you want this "rebuttal" here or not, but the page in question is NOT a promotional tool. I've removed all links regarding the publishing company and the release date of the first novel. The page is in regards to my father yes, but he is a REAL author with REAL novels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andthewheelspins (talk • contribs) 14:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• As a minimum, you should have waited until the book was actually published and had been reviewed by reliable sources. I will give it a week just in case it does get reviewed. You are his son; surely you can provide a better photo? And please note the spelling of deceit. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Aspen Network of Development Entrepreneurs

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Jinenkan

I'd like to discuss the deletion of this article, with the goal of reversing it in some form. Thanks in advance for your time. Fraterm (talk) 17:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• After eight years, the article possibly deserves more than speedy. Have an AfD with my compliments. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Palestine (EP)

Please, review your speed deletion about PALESTINE.

You typed : Non-notable music by artist with no Wikipedia article) Please check Yann Tiersen and fr:Yann Tiersen. Yann Tiersen is a major artist, his "wikipiedia biography" has been translated in more than 30 wikipedia language. Thank you -- 193.49.124.107 (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Normally I ignore anon. postings. To be honest, I deleted it for the arrogant, shouted title - Palestine has another meaning you know! If you remove the shouting within the text, add proper references to reliable sources in English and re-post it at Palestine (EP) then it might stick. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Moving your house in Sydney

Hello RHaworth. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Moving your house in Sydney, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: sorry, but it isn't promoting anything. Fails WP:NOTHOWTO, but that's not a speedy reaspn. Let the AfD take care of it. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, if I'd seen who it was I wouldn't have "templated" you by using CSDH; but it really isn't a G11. I looked hopefully for a copyvio source, but couldn't find one. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I don't mind being templated. If I had seen it with a speedy tag, I would have cheerfully zapped it on the basis of the external links. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, you're quite right - I missed them in the middle of the text there. Sorry. Gone. JohnCD (talk) 20:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyvios by Marquis de la Eirron

I see you just deleted a couple of COPYVIO images I tagged that were uploaded by Marquis de la Eirron (talk · contribs). I tagged these before I realised the true extent of the images that this now-banned user had uploaded. Having looked at a few of them I think it is safe to assume that every one is a copyvio and therefore should be deleted. --Simple Bob (talk) 11:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Agreed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

GBC Asset Management

GBC Asset Management - a division of Pembroke Management is one of the oldest 'growth' style investment managers in Canada, and should be included in Wiki. There are many other firm, with less historical significance that are included. Evidently, I have had some difficulty describing the principles the firm has practices since 1968 -- principles that distinguish its investment philosophy and strategy from the strategies used by other firms -- without sounding like an advertisement. I would appreciate any suggestions you have that would improve the piece. Cheers, (A341672 (talk) 17:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC))

• Try and persuade an established editor that the company is notable - see this advice. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

delete image from page previously deleted

Hi. A little while ago you deleted the Southbeach notation page. It contained this image as well: File:Southbeach Notation 0.9 Semantics.png which has not yet been deleted. It was only referenced from there and still appears in google searches.

I see you need to be an administrator to delete images... could you delete this? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbonline (talk • contribs) 08:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Done. I assume you wanted File:Southbeach Notation Business Example 090524.png and File:Southbeach Notation Business Example - Improvements 090524.png deleted as well. What about incoming links to the deleted article? You can delete those yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:27, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Renaissance community

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you! VernoWhitney (talk) 19:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Question

Indeed I agree with this, but what about SemEval? I did not nominate that, but it's not too much better. (I am watching this page, so please reply here.) — Timneu22 · talk 20:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• The articles in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/SemEval-1 appear to be extracts from SemEval. One treatment for them would be to simply redirect them to SemEval. SemEval should be given a separate AfD - where I will propose delete. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Well then, done. — Timneu22 · talk 21:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

question about deletion of city media foundation

i see that you have deleted city media foundation page i know that i had not provided nay external references but the foundation is embarking on momentus initiative which needs to be popularised. can i re create the page. the page was deleted before i could put the hang on tag there. — Siddharthmukund (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Hangon indeed! You ought to know better than to create an article without evidence of notability. If you can assure me you have no COI, then draft the article in User:Siddharthmukund/sandbox and, when it is ready, submit it to AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

how do i assure you of COI. I am not employed by city media foundation or have a relative / family member working with them. a friend did direct me to their site as i am interested in new stuff happening on the web. i liked the work they were doing hence i decided to create a wiki page for them. Mean while i would request you to please visit the citymedia page http://www.citymediafoundation.org and may be you could tell me your opinion if they are doing some good work which i think they are doing. they are a non profit organization as far as i believe. Siddharthmukund (talk) 18:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• I am unimpressed by the .vi domain. I tried manchester.vi - the videos don't work in Opera and the Introduction is about Manchester, NH while the rest is about the proper Manchester! It does not matter how worthy the foundation is - how much outside attention have they received? I repeat: draft the article in User:Siddharthmukund/sandbox and, when it is ready, submit it to AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Aero-engine manuf template

OK. Did i save it outside my sandbox then? The original article got saved, leaving an empty shell, for me to use as a sandboxPetebutt (talk) 20:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC).

• What does the edit history say? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Eastern Air Flight 855/885

A little assistance would be appreciated. I think I have fixed all the links to point to the page with the correct title. However, the "What Links Here" page still shows the same entries. Did I miss something or just do it incorrectly? Thanks Bwe1862 (talk) 20:52, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• OK, you fixed the links directly from the (article) namespace. But you missed the important edit: this one. As soon as that was done all the other entries in whatlinkshere disappeared as if by magick!

Thanks! Don't know if I'd have ever found that one on my own. Now can you delete Eastern Air Lines Flight 885? Or do I need to add the delete tag to it again? I think that will be sufficient to get me out of your hair. Bwe1862 (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• You should have found the template because it was clearly there in the whatlinkshere list - how do you think I found it? I see no reason to delete Eastern Air Lines Flight 885. You could apply {{db-redirtypo}} but I would classify it as a (just) plausible typo. And in any case this page and your talk page both link to it! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Praveen Kochar

Hi RHaworth, you deleted this article last week as blatant self-promotion. Today Shalinijainkochar (talk · contribs) created Dr. Praveen Kochar, as you said when you deleted the first article, it was created by a sock, could you take a look and see if this new account needs blocking and whether the articles need salting? Cheers SmartSE (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Please also semi-protect List of Jains and these Praveen Kochar types jokers keep on adding their names to the list.--Indian Chronicles (talk) 14:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• Done but watch out for Praveen Kochar re-appearing on variant titles: Dr. Praveen Jain Kochar was already salted; I have salted four more today but there are other variants that might be used! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks SmartSE (talk) 17:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I will keep a watch.--Indian Chronicles (talk) 04:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Dogtown St. Louis MO

Hi, I would be very grateful if you could give me access to this newspaper article [Dogtown st. louis, MO]. I had started to read it a long time ago and just found it again (only to find it has been deleted). It is an article about my ancestors the Shones, Ellis', etc. and I was hoping to use the information and relatives on my family tree. I look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Karen Shone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aiello90 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• Why do you call it a newspaper article? I have e-mailed it to you. You may also like to contact User:Gittinsm who posted the article - they well have more info. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Langlands & Bell deleted images

Dear R Haworth, I just added some images [including File:Langlands & Bell by Steve White.jpg] to illustrate my article on the artists Langlands and Bell, which you have deleted. I'm not sure why, as they were obtained with the permission of their photographer, provided that they are only used on Wikpedia. What am I supposed to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardwilding (talk • contribs) 16:50, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

You clearly did not review your upload or you would have seen that you had the image had applied a speedy delete tag via template:Db-f3! Providing you do have the photographer's permission and the photographer is willing to licence them under the Creative Commons, then: re-upload them; apply a valid licence tag and provide evidence of permission - see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, will you please upload the images to the Commons which is the proper place for free-use images. Some editors disapprove of articles with too many images. You may be better creating a Commons gallery or category. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:49, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I have just checked: the message "Dear uploader: this media file, which you just uploaded, has been listed for speedy deletion …" appears even before you click on upload! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:49, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual

They are my own words in that I am the author of both. I donate to wikipedia the use of the document Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual for keyboard as presented because the current presentation on music harmony as a whole is imprecise and scattered. There is no copyright infringement in my doing this.

There is still some repositioning I intend to do with the article to make it easier to read as regards the necessary sections to understand tertian harmony as a cohesive whole. Prophet of the Most High (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

• I am worried that even when cleaned up, the article will be rejected as an how-to guide. But if you want to try: a) place an explicit statement on your yahoo page saying that your text is licenced under Creative Commons; b) chop out "before the divinity of God was revealed to us by Jesus Christ …" and other "god language" which is totally inappropriate for an encyclopedia; c) submit your article via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

As to your worry, remember Christ said, "Worry not." Life is easiest that way and so is eternal life. Your subsequent statements, then, in your last submission here are reflective of an undue strain which need not be propagated. I sent a consent to wikipedia authorizing the rightful use of "Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual" at wikipedia hours ago yet the article was deleted in less time than that and there is still no restoration. So copyright is no longer an issue, nor do I need to modify the yahoo page. As to the frivolous advice you render to the exegesis as a whole, maybe in Croydon, UK you live under an anti-Catholic despotism, but here in the United States of America we still have the decency to respect ones religious affiliation, and we effort to foster that rightful thinking in everyone. For you to minimize years, decades, centuries, even millenia of development in the cross sciences of music theory and theology to a debasive "god language" shows poor insight into topics one can only conclude you abhor. Did you know that for centuries it was forbidden for man to sing musical rhythms in groups of three (triplets) because it was deemed a treading upon the Blessed Trinity? Yet, God has not looked upon us with disdain in this, as fuller insights ever have been revealed to us concerning tertian harmony. If God has been so kind to us in this enlightening, how do you justify your betrayal against Him? Unless you and Diannaa take a more fervent interest in tertian harmony as presented, I cannot donate to wikipedia specifically in that regard, which also makes fundraising at wikipedia ludicrous, throwing up a red flag in the process. - Prophet of the Most High (talk) 11:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is run by volunteers - you may well have to wait hours or even days. But in this case, sending authorization will not cause the article to be restored. As I have already said, you must: a) re-write the article - surely you understand that this is a secular encyclopedia; b) re-submit it yourself preferably via AfC. (Brevity is the soul of wit.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Nowhere in the Five Pillars does one find the statement "this is a secular encyclopedia" included as a fundamental principle. To the contrary one finds "Wikipedia is an on-line encyclopedia. It incorporates elements of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers." So your contortion of the fundamental principles is currently only self-serving.

Your initial rejection was publicly shown to be based on a copyright issue. Even if I had neglected to be mindful of copyright procedures within wikipedia, wikipedia and/or all other volunteers were not accountable for my doing so. You have a no risk scenario, though this is not an open invitation to abuse.

Currently, I am the only worry free volunteer as regards the inclusion of "Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual" as an article in wikipedia. By my remaining this way, I serve as a template for neutral point of view in all matters concerning wikipedia. I invite all of my fellow volunteers at wikipedia to share in this neutral point of view. Though the article "Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual" is written with a glimpse of hindsight as to the development of Tertian Harmony, this in no way detracts from the accuracy and conciseness of what may very well be the best article at wikipedia.

So, the reason for your rejection of "Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual" is not one concerning copyright, nor is it one concerning content. Your reason is personal. I noted that your early contributions included what you called butchering. I sympathize with you in that, but likewise, I cannot condone your projecting of hardships upon others as an act of vengeance due to said butchering. - Prophet of the Most High (talk) 10:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, RHaworth. This is just a note to let you know that Prophet of the Most High made some remarks about you on my talk page. Please see User talk:Diannaa#Deletion of Tertian Harmony and Chord Manual. Regards, --Diannaa ^(Talk) 04:10, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I did indeed. I think the matter of the utmost importance to both of you and I ask that you read my latest reply, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Diannaa#Deletion_of_Tertian_Harmony_and_Chord_Manual - Prophet of the Most High (talk) 14:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Astounded!

What on earth are you doing? "Deletion log); 22:32 . . RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted User:Demiurge1000/Second enquiry into the Rlevse affair (G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP)" I strongly advise you to undelete this page at once.  Giacomo  23:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Wait, why was this restored? IMHO it's quite clearly an attack page, and should be deleted as such. [stwalkerster|talk] 01:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

It's probably not clear enough for G10, and in any event is now at MfD - let consensus determine its fate. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:30, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

EIILIR

The European Institute for International Law and International Relations —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurist25 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

UK traplant

Hi RHaworth, please can you have a look at the UK Transplant page as some parts of its content are now obsolete (e.g. the new name is ODT) and it has new topics as well to be upload (Online donor register). I can't because of a conflict with my job position. many thanks, Luca luca.degiuseppe —Preceding undated comment added 14:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC).

• "I can't because of a conflict with my job position". What a strange think to say. COI did not prevent you from creating the article, so why on earth does does it prevent you from tidying it up? You started the article: you can go on with it - especially providing the third party refs. Declare your COI on the talk page, we will judge whether it bars you from editing. My only reservation is: do we need a separate article or should it be merged with NHS Blood and Transplant. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

• Hi, thanks a lot for your clarifications and above all your contributes to the article. Actually I think it's better to keep the article seprated and as for the "conflict", my contributes have been deleted several times just for that reason. I was wondering if you could also integrate the current content with any further copy as well. Many thanks luca.degiuseppe —Preceding undated comment added 11:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC).

Hi

• Hi can you look here? Please help for this page beacuse of IP user edits. --Hedda Gabler (talk) 11:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
• thanks. --Hedda Gabler (talk) 11:17, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Lord Roberts

You deleted a picture I uploaded of Roger Roberts earlier today. There's an excellent chance that when I did so, I didn't follow wikipedia policy. However, what I am sure of is that I have his permission to do so, because he works in the office next to me, asked me to do it three days ago, and was sitting over my shoulder when I did it. Anywho, if you could advise me on how best to do so in future that'd be great. 13djb13 (talk) 15:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

• Get hold of a decent-sized image instead of a thumbnail. Make sure that the photographer is willing to licence it under Creative Commons - it is their permission we need not that of Roger Roberts! Upload it to the Commons. What could be simpler? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Nota Bene article

You've marked my article Nota Bene Word Processor for speedy deletion, on the grounds that 'it does nothing but promote some entity or product'. It is a fundamental rewrite of an article I posted several months ago.

I can't do {{hang on}} because I don't know where to put it, but I'd like to say it.

Nota Bene is one of the very few fully-featured word processors still in existence, of the many that started life in the 1980s. As such, it seems to me that it has a legitimate place on Wikipedia.

I admit to being an NB user, but I am not trying to promote the product, but rather to document its existence. I don't think I'm saying anything about it that isn't said, at greater length, in the Wikipedia articles about MS Word and Word Perfect--the article on the latter contains a number of statements such as 'its unusually user-friendly macro/scripting language'.

I would be grateful for guidance on this issue.

Thank you, Mary mary.bernard@taffa.eu Mary Lord Bernard (talk) 17:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

• For goodness sake! Surely the instructions are clear: you put {{hang on}} in the article and your reasons in the talk page. But might I suggest that you address yourself to the small matter of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

The cause and effect of natural disasters

Hi. This is a recreation of one you already deleted:

• 09:11, 14 November 2010 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted The Cause and Effect of Natural Disasters‎ (A10: Recently created article that duplicates an existing topic: natural disasters)

Could you use your button again please and with a spoonful of salt perhaps. Thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 09:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Both versions of this title have now been salted. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 21:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. - I'm going to have get myself a set of those buttons one of the days ;) --Kudpung (talk) 23:00, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Danny Keyz article

Hello. I apologize- I am not very computer savvy. I am attempting to create a page for Danny Keyz who is a notable composer, musician and producer. I am inexperienced in the creation of pages but perhaps I can pass this information on to someone who is capable. The persons page that I am trying to created is an inspiring person and has contributed much to the pop music world in the last years. Anyway, I would appreciate your help or feedback. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thekushrecord (talk • contribs) 01:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

• A) read User:Tonyhothands and contact him. (If you are Tonyhothands, then stop using Thekushrecord!). B) learn wiki markup: is[[Emineml] supposed to be a link? We do not code [1] which tells us nothing about the link; we code Discography at discogs.com. C) Above all we add links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Denvilles Halt

I will research this at Havant library which has a good railway section. Bashereyre (talk) 17:41, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined Brasil

Hello RHaworth. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of The Organization of the Powers (Constitution of Brazil), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. Thank you. Courcelles 05:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Su6LiMe article

Ok I'm writing articles about significant gamers and figures from the late 90's and early 2000's. After a day or two of creating the Su6LiMe article you deleted it. Are you kidding me? I haven't ref'ed or uploaded any of the images I'm going to use for it. I've just been gathering information on my own and getting ready to write the article. Aren't I supposed to have 10 days to write this? And, who are you pal? Are you kidding me? Yes I realize you're a wikipedia admin, but get a life. Or I'm going to report you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabastyle (talk • contribs) 14:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• It was unwise of you to put it in the (article) namespace until you had uploaded the images and, above all, added the refs. A Google search for Su6lime is not very promising, but if you think you can demonstrate notability: develop the article in User:Shabastyle/sandbox (there you can have as long as you like to write it!) and submit it via AfC. Incidentally, the one external link you managed to put in the article: http://www.wcreplays.net/ appears to be broken. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

You deleted my entry, "Pigtuba" as "Vandalism".

That is in no way vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pigtuba (talk • contribs) 15:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia fundraising

The redirect you created (over a microstub) was deceptive as there is no discussion of fundraising in Wikipedia. The redirect shouldn't have been created, so I've nominated it for deletion: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 27. Fences&Windows 23:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Sophonisba Angusciola Peale Sellers deletion

Sophonisba Angusciola Peale Sellers was an accidental article creation when I intended to create a talk page draft, which I have done now. Please go ahead and delete the tagged article. Sorry for the inconvenience. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:24, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• That very impressive list of blue-linked relatives did make me hesitate about deletion. But of course she does have to be notable in her own right. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:43, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I am learning a lot more about Charles Willson Peale, his brother James Peale, and his descendants. Who is notable and who is not is an open question for me. See my talk page for more. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Alan Rush

I would like to add an article about Alan Rush. It was deleted before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blogger master (talk • contribs) 00:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Despite your male sounding name, my suspicious mind says that you are another manifestation of KittyAsia (talk · contribs) and Airborne64 (talk · contribs). Prepare a draft article, making sure to provide links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources then find a sponsor. I can let you have a copy of the deleted text - see this note. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Rambam rambam health care campus

thanks, sorry... Yanshoof (talk) 15:04, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Clark's Principle

The author posted to Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/questions#My contribution was deleted. Your deletion summary was the automatic Expired PROD but the prod was from the same day so maybe you thought of a speedy criteria and forgot to change it. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Replied on the page you mention. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

NMT Medical

Why deleted? It seems a valid business that would justify documentation (http://www.nmtmedical.com/) even if it wasn't at the centre of a significant public interest libel case vs Peter Wilmhurst. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickpheas (talk • contribs) 21:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Did you actually read the deletion log? Did you see {{db-nocontent}}? The bit of the article you can see in the deletion log is about all there was. If you write a proper article about the company it may stick. But I have to ask: if the company is notable, how come no-one has written about it in the nearly five years (!) since I deleted it? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:00, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Real-Time Outbreak and Disease Surveillance

I removed your prod after Googling it, finding a HHS source, and editing that in. This appears to be a U of Pittsburgh, government-financed program. Surely it is notable. I moved it to Real-Time Outbreak and Disease Surveillance, its correct title. Bearian (talk) 01:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

PS I had an edit conflict with an IP, who vandalized your page, so erased it, and I blocked him/her. Bearian (talk) 01:47, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• OK. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Questionable edit

Why did you make this edit? Please delete the page. There is no campaign at this time.--William S. Saturn (talk) 03:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

• I deleted it because you called it an hoax which it patently is not. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

You didn't "delete it". That's what I wanted you to do. Instead you rollbacked the tagging of the hoax redirect. Please be more careful with the rollback feature.--William S. Saturn (talk) 22:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you :-) RHaworth

It's indeed a lesson on Morphy Gambit. I think it's getting too technical for a general encyclopedic article. Thanks anyway :-)

AnthonyNotes (talk) 04:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

User account possibly hacked

Hi Roger. Could you please take a look at who created this page which you correctly deleted:
14:51, 4 December 2010 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted "No log in prefix:Wikipedia:FAQ" ‎ (G2: Test page)
It seems there may either have been a technical glitch, or an editor's account has been compromised - See messages at user talk:Kudpung. Thanks, --Kudpung (talk) 04:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Kudpung and Roger: thanks so much. i shall check my page over next 2 weeks. Interestingly, my question about wikipedia was answered by this experience (i am already logged in!).rich (talk) 08:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• I think both Kudpung and I did not want to insult your intelligence by pointing out that you were logged in. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:15, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of TribalWars page

Hi Roger. I'd like to prefix this by saying that I'm not very good when it comes to creating articles on Wikipedia. However, the TribalWars webpage in question is an actual game with a wide user base (More active users than there are people in my hometown, which has a Wikipedia page). I was wondering if there was any way I could edit the page to prevent it from being deleted, or if I could pass this task on to a person who could create the page.BlackChaosBelow (talk) 19:15, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

• I zapped it because of a total absence of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I suggest you address that matter and re-submit the article via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Sunflower

Thanks for letting me know, RH. And for the record, I do agree with most of your calls, I just didn't feel this one was proddable as stated. (And yes, I'm interested in this sort of US racial history stuff.) best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Think Banking

Just to let you know following the deletion of the Think Banking page, I will be attempting to recreate the page and hope to better adhere to the guidelines. If you have any advice I would very much appreciate it. I will try and recreate the page at the sandbox page user:Thinkmoney/Think Banking. — Thinkmoney (talk) 11:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• You should wait until someone with no COI thinks the product is notable and writes about it. And what on earth is "managed" banking. I can assure you that if the Manchester and Liverpool District Banking Company offered to "manage" my account with them, I would put them very firmly in their place. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

article for deletion

I was wondering whether you had followed the discussion about "HEXACO model of personality structure" as an article for deletion. In particular, if you now judge that the article meets the notability criterion, would you be willing to indicate this on the article-for-deletion page?

However, if you judge that the article still should be deleted, then could you please tell me how I can help to have it deleted? I had posted the article because I wanted the non-academic community to be able to find information about this research, but I'd rather not leave it posted with an "article for deletion" tag. Thanks in advance, M C Ashton (talk) 22:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Absolutely no evidence of notability has been added to the article so why should I have changed my opinion? The AfD tag is lingering because the discussion has been relisted. Just be patient and abide by the decision of the admin who closes the AfD. If the decision is 'keep', the tag will be removed. (Or you could go to the AfD discussion and request deletion!) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
• I've added a new section that cites some scientific journal articles that have used this model of personality structure. M C Ashton (talk) 17:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Posting here to let you know that your post at WP:VPM about paid article writers has paid off some as we have closed in on some of the sockpuppets. Also, this AfD may be of interest to you. Thank you for keeping watch, Cheers,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 23:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

...paid off even bigger than I previously meant. :)
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 01:30, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Ognjen Vuletic deletion

Recently you deleted Ognjen Vuletic under G7. I happened to see the article yesterday or the day before while Huggling (I think) when the original author blanked it. I thought that when I looked at the history, it was ineligible for G7 because at least one other editor had made substantial edits; furthermore, it looked to me like the subject was probably (although not certainly) notable, since it claimed he placed highly in a Czech (I think--again, working from memory) reality show and had won other possibly significant prizes. I wasn't sure, but it looked like there was at least a possibility that the article should be kept and improved. Can you look into the article's history to see if there were any other significant contributions? I'm watching, so you can reply here Qwyrxian (talk) 23:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• I have e-mailed you the history - judge for yourself. I would say that all three deletions of Ognjen Vuletić were valid G7s. Do you think that Ogggy (talk · contribs) might possibly be Ognjen Vuletić and did you note a 1995 DoB? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I guess what I saw was WikHead filling in references, which looks like a large edit but isn't necessarily substantial. Also, in the history I note that back on March 3, an earlier version was declined G7, but that may have just because the creator was using multiple accounts and didn't use the right one to request deletion.

While it's true that he's only 15, the article claims (unfortunately, verification is tough, because the refs are not in English) that he has appeared on television several times, as well as won several competitions. But maybe that's not really good enough...at least one of the competitions seems to be just a local competition hosted by a French cultural center. One of the TV mentions is in passing only...Okay, maybe it makes sense for this to stay out of mainspace for now, until such time as its fully certain the person meets WP:BIO or WP:ENT.

Thanks for checking up on this. When I looked at the article two days ago I didn't look in too much detail; I'd planned to go back eventually, but after the deletion couldn't. Thanks for the help. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Litton bombing

Hey mate, think you could avoid speedy-deleting a WP:FORK out of process while it's literally in the middle of being created? I'd appreciate if you'd restore the article ASAP so it can continue to be expanded. You'll notice it did not duplicate the blurb at Squamish Five. LikeJudasOfOld (talk) 23:56, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

• Do we really need a separate article? I suggest you add your extra stuff to Squamish Five and raise the question of a fork at talk:Squamish Five. I would e-mail you your text, if you had e-mail enabled. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't have eMail enabled, just restore the article and if you disagree with its creation, go about the proper route and use the discussion pages to suggest merging them together. But the Litton Bombing article is likely to reach 30-40k size on its own, which would invoke WP:UNDUE and WP:FORK on the S5 article. LikeJudasOfOld (talk) 00:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• So enable e-mail. I offered you a perfectly reasonable route for the re-instatement of your text. If you do not want to follow it, go to deletion review. I also find it somewhat suspicious that you are fluent in wiki jargon but have negligible contributions history. Loved the Giotto on your user page - Satan is just like one I had to deal with recently. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

As another contributor of research, I agree the article about the bombing is necessary due to what will likely be its significant size. BeowulfMacCool (talk) 00:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• More sock-puppetry. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LikeJudasOfOld (talk • contribs) 00:26, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Meanwhile, you can restore the article to my userspace. LikeJudasOfOld (talk) 00:44, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

New Article

Hi, RHaworth! Thanks for deleting my sandbox page, as I moved it to MortgageLoan: but I'm curious about something. When I type "MortgageL..." when searching WP, the article doesn't appear. Is there something I missed when I moved the page? Or does it just take time to show up when searching? Again, I appreciate your help! Cheers :> Doc talk 00:21, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Database lag possibly? Where do those suggestions come from? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:26, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully it is a database lag: I'm totally unsure of where the suggestions come from. When you type "The" in the search box, you get the same odd mix of newspapers, a couple of countries, and The Beatles. Typing only "Th" shows how many carry over into "The". I'll be looking into this one - it's weird! Thanks :> Doc talk 00:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Found it[2]. Maybe tomorrow... :> Doc talk 01:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Okabu

I created a stub article for an upcoming video game, with reference to a media source with the announcement. It is not spam, unless you consider all upcoming video game articles as such; if so, there's a lot of deletion work to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MigrantP (talk • contribs) 02:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Do the words "significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources" suggest anything to you? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy thanks

Thanks very much for this:

• (Deletion log); 12:29 . . RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered/London Outer Orbital Path" (U1: User request to delete page in own userspace)

Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Airsoft deletion

I saw that you deleted the article Celcius Technology so I must to advice you to delete the following articles too, since they have the same issues of Celcius: Systema Engineering, Tokyo Marui, Classic Army, Crosman, Asahi Firearms, G2 – Generation Guns, L.L.C., Sheriff (manufacturer), Jing Gong, KJ Works, Maruzen, Redwolf Airsoft, Tippmann, UTG, and Western Arms. Unobjectionable (talk) 13:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• If I see any with delete tags, then I probably will delete them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I did that work for you. All of them are tagged now. Cheers! Unobjectionable (talk) 13:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Oh dear, you called my bluff! I thought you were being sarcastic or acting out of pique. I have taken out the most stubby and unreferenced. Let us see what other admins think about the rest. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

No sarcasm here. I just want coherent and fair Wikipedia policies and rightfully executed administrative actions. I maintain that most of these airsoft gun manufacturers are notable by their own right. IMHO, articles of companies like Celcius Technologies and now the defunct articles of KJ Works and Maruzen have a place in the category airsoft... I left this to be done at the administrator's discretion. Please, ask other admins if these articles should be restored or deleted (all of them). Thanks. Unobjectionable (talk) 14:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• Your speedy tags are a request to other admins to delete those that still exist. Of the ones I have deleted today, you can raise the matter at deletion review but before you do so, you need to have properly referenced replacement articles. If you want to produce those, I can e-mail you deleted texts. I suggest you raise this matter at talk:airsoft - you might get support for re-instating. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

As I got involved here as well so that we have a complete picture: I deleted another stub, declined speedy deletion on Tokyo Marui, Classic Army, Crosman, Asahi Firearms and Tippmann because they claimed importance in one way or another and converted the remaining speedy tags Systema Engineering, Jing Gong, Japan Arms Collection and Western Arms into proposed deletions. I understand form that Unobjectionable is unhappy with the mixed result but there is no reason to assume that all airsoft companies are equally notable and CSD A7 also considers the actual state. There is also WP:REFUND if something needs to be userfied for improvement. --Tikiwont (talk) 16:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I think notice is warranted in this case

I don't disagree with your rationale in the PROD of Flash sale, but the editor went to a lot of work, and the least we can do is notify the author. Do you agree?

I'm temporarily removing the prod notice.

Could you either:

• add the prod again, with notification, or
• do nothing, in which case I'll notify, add the prod, and let someone else delete it --SPhilbrickT 17:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I have actually already re-PRODDED and notified, so we can wait another week. The author has no other edits apart from creating this article, so my guess is they won't challenge the PROD, but we should still give them the chance. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:29, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of page - Kelli Stephens

Hi, The page that I was in the process of creating was deleted. This was a bio page on the first female race car driver, to compete a full national campaign in the Australian Saloon car series, and one of only a handful of females competing in a full national series, in circuit racing in Australia.

Can you please allow me to recreate the page, and finish it. XR8Chic (talk) 08:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

• Are you surprised I deleted it - the assertion of notability given above did not appear in the article. Develop your article in User:XR8Chic/sandbox until it is viable and above all contains links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:15, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

You deleted the page

Hi Mr. Haworth, I wrote a message for the administrators, which includes you also. And what did you do?? You, without even reading it deleted the article. You should have replied to me in the context. This way editing on Wikipedia is a very bitter experience for me. Its my first article and you deleted this way. Even courts hear the criminals and then decide. What is it then?? Is it a sort of dominancy. Just a same article like that is on the wikipedia but u deleted this one. Great Mr. Haworth.. n thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prakashpanwar (talk • contribs)

Georgia based punk band Veara

Hi! I'm requesting that the protection preventing the creation of an article about Veara be lifted. As I skimmed the deletion log, I saw that you were the last user to delete the article, so I'm hoping you can help me out. Since the deletion, I believe that the band has made significant progress, releasing a full length album on major independent record label Epitaph Records, produced by Rob Freeman. Also, the band has acquired an opening slot on the Eastpak Antidote Tour in Europe alongside Sum 41.

I'm a new editor to Wikipedia, and I think that writing an article on Veara would be great for my first. I look forward to your response. Thanks! -- RevelsInChains (talk) 03:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)